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i remember reading that He could have pulled himself off the cross at any point that He wanted to, which is part of the grace element of it. without Christ humanity slips down the slope. that's what they/pretty much i believe
people will believe anything that helps them sleep. 
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one thing is for certain though, his way of living was very real.
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 Re: Jesus Rules  [Re: zZZz]
#16280644 - 05/24/12 11:01 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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i love how he was all about gentleness and healing and the kingdom of God but was down to flip some fucking tables over if some asshole pharisee was trying to sell shit in a temple
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: zZZz]
#16280826 - 05/24/12 11:31 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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zZZz said:
one thing is for certain though, his way of living was very real.
I'm not certain.
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i love how he was all about gentleness and healing and the kingdom of God but was down to flip some fucking tables over if some asshole pharisee was trying to sell shit in a temple
i think you are looking into the written words too much. to understand someone simply by reading about them is not enough. you have to live like one to know one.
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I'm not certain.
unconditional love and kindness.
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: zZZz]
#16281470 - 05/25/12 01:27 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Yeah, I've heard of people being able to come out of a full on trip at will. I so gutted by all the things I can't do, everything is envy. I know how to turn water into wine, but I want to bring the dead back to life. Off to Paris to have a drink with Jim Morrison.
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: zZZz]
#16282455 - 05/25/12 10:12 AM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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unconditional love and kindness.
Doesn't exist in reality. Sorry.  Rather than debate this here again, do a search for the many long debates on this issue here and in the philosophy forum.
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unconditional love and kindness.
Doesn't exist in reality. Sorry. Rather than debate this here again, do a search for the many long debates on this issue here and in the philosophy forum.
How sad for you. I hope you are able to find it.
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That's why I always say Judas was the real hero of the tale. He gives up Jesus and goes to hell for it, and Jesus gets to go to heaven, and it's suppose to be Jesus's sacrifice?
The high road is the selfish, easy way out. I see this a lot, people take the high road thinking they are doing something noble. But really they are just protecting themselves from being sullied by dirty work. Its a selfish act.
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i mean it's called "high" because it is noble, by definition. Why should anybody be sullied by anything? That's not always necessary you know 
Don't hate on somebody just because they can go through life without debasing themselves. That's a beautiful thing.
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nicechrisman said:
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Icelander said:
unconditional love and kindness.
Doesn't exist in reality. Sorry. Rather than debate this here again, do a search for the many long debates on this issue here and in the philosophy forum.
How sad for you. I hope you are able to find it.
Yes yes, how wonderful for you. 
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tough love
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: g00ru]
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oojijimoo said:
i mean it's called "high" because it is noble, by definition. Why should anybody be sullied by anything? That's not always necessary you know
Don't hate on somebody just because they can go through life without debasing themselves. That's a beautiful thing.
Yes that would be wonderful, my envy increases.
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in the end it's all just what you've surrounded yourself with
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#16284217 - 05/25/12 06:36 PM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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and btw i'm not trying to sound completely unsullied 
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: g00ru]
#16284393 - 05/25/12 07:17 PM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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don't worry. 
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Re: Jesus Rules [Re: g00ru]
#16288175 - 05/26/12 04:42 PM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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if Jesus is truly the son of God then i wish to follow him
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and if he's just a story, what then?
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He was a historical person, Josephus commented on him in his logs
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