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 Tripping without drugs? 
#16277077 - 05/24/12 08:07 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Possible? Unpossible?
There's no way something as awesome as a trip is to be confined to the ingesting of entheogens, shirley.
I seem to be able to enact creative energies and dreamlike states by sort of 'swirling' my consciousness while laying in bed. It leads to ecstasies and excitation.
Anyone else find they can 'sort of' trip without drugs in this way?
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Edited by circastes (05/24/12 08:18 AM)
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes] 1
#16277093 - 05/24/12 08:15 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I know that is is possible to post without thinking. 
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes] 1
#16277123 - 05/24/12 08:31 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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yes surely
under favorable circumstances.
and a naturally built in aspect of our species -
psych wards fill up with people who cannot cope with this ability,
people who have fallen to using it unpleasantly
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I've done it a few times by meditation alone. Full OEVs and radically altered thinking.
I readily and easily can get CEVs.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: At My Peak]
#16277243 - 05/24/12 09:27 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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With ten years of daily meditation, I never experienced anything otherworldly, nor remotely psychedelic.
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redgreenvines
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You have told us this before; might you divulge what you were doing as 'meditation' (for 10 years)?
there are many practices that go by that name.
some of them will not be much different than daydreaming, others just take you from your physical routine into another one.
10 years is a long time to sit out in the cold.
if you were reviewing probability theory during the sessions, you probably achieved something else, with no appreciable shifting in mental state.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16277338 - 05/24/12 10:03 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
circastes said:
Possible? Unpossible?
There's no way something as awesome as a trip is to be confined to the ingesting of entheogens, shirley.
I seem to be able to enact creative energies and dreamlike states by sort of 'swirling' my consciousness while laying in bed. It leads to ecstasies and excitation.
Anyone else find they can 'sort of' trip without drugs in this way?
Sometimes I see visuals when meditating.
Then there is always lucid dreams/obe.
More dangerous stuff to induce trippiness would be sleep deprivation, fasting, choking oneself/drowning oneself.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16277342 - 05/24/12 10:04 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
circastes said:
Possible? Unpossible?
There's no way something as awesome as a trip is to be confined to the ingesting of entheogens, shirley.
I seem to be able to enact creative energies and dreamlike states by sort of 'swirling' my consciousness while laying in bed. It leads to ecstasies and excitation.
Anyone else find they can 'sort of' trip without drugs in this way?
been doing that since a little kid, thought everyone did. 
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16277461 - 05/24/12 10:46 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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I tripped really hard once when I didn't notice my shoe laces were untied. Almost broke my neck. I wasn't on any drugs at the time either. 
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: Diploid]
#16277466 - 05/24/12 10:47 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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HPPD hits me hard at times, sometimes almost too hard. 
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16277497 - 05/24/12 10:56 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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I get hallucinations from sleep deprivation. After about 40-50 hours of being awake I will literally hear voices and start to have waking dreams. It's not really a pleasant experience and is terrible for my body I am sure.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: Icelander]
#16278325 - 05/24/12 02:22 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
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circastes said:
Possible? Unpossible?
There's no way something as awesome as a trip is to be confined to the ingesting of entheogens, shirley.
I seem to be able to enact creative energies and dreamlike states by sort of 'swirling' my consciousness while laying in bed. It leads to ecstasies and excitation.
Anyone else find they can 'sort of' trip without drugs in this way?
been doing that since a little kid, thought everyone did.
Swirl harder.
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"Your salvation may lie in a rational apprehension of the present moment."
-Terence McKenna
"There never was any forgetfulness for Self."
-Ramana Maharshi
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circastes
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Quote:
redgreenvines said:
yes surely
under favorable circumstances.
and a naturally built in aspect of our species -
psych wards fill up with people who cannot cope with this ability,
people who have fallen to using it unpleasantly
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"Your salvation may lie in a rational apprehension of the present moment."
-Terence McKenna
"There never was any forgetfulness for Self."
-Ramana Maharshi
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16278545 - 05/24/12 03:20 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Well I don't think it could be truly psychedelic but when I play guitar, drums, listen to music, or read a very captivating book, I just get in these moments where nothing is real except this dream like state where there is no separation from reality/fantasy & lose myself in it. I never hallucinate though...although when I close my eyes I do see weird things.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16278705 - 05/24/12 04:07 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Tripping without drugs? Possible.
Not tripping with drugs? Possible.
First is living with illusions. Second is living without them.
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16278709 - 05/24/12 04:08 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
circastes said:
Possible? Unpossible?
There's no way something as awesome as a trip is to be confined to the ingesting of entheogens, shirley.
I seem to be able to enact creative energies and dreamlike states by sort of 'swirling' my consciousness while laying in bed. It leads to ecstasies and excitation.
Anyone else find they can 'sort of' trip without drugs in this way?
I can sort of will myself to trip, or sometimes I randomly trip balls for no reason. I think it's probably due to abusing certain psychedelic thangs.
It can be both awesome and terrible. That's life though. What else can you do besides  ?
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Quote:
redgreenvines said:
You have told us this before; might you divulge what you were doing as 'meditation' (for 10 years)?
there are many practices that go by that name.
some of them will not be much different than daydreaming, others just take you from your physical routine into another one.
10 years is a long time to sit out in the cold.
if you were reviewing probability theory during the sessions, you probably achieved something else, with no appreciable shifting in mental state.
The 'True Scotsman' fallacy. How quaint!
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: circastes]
#16278959 - 05/24/12 05:06 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
circastes said:
Quote:
redgreenvines said:
yes surely
under favorable circumstances.
and a naturally built in aspect of our species -
psych wards fill up with people who cannot cope with this ability,
people who have fallen to using it unpleasantly
which ward are you in?
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"People convince themselves of their own lies, becoming victims of their own inventions as they begin to direct their lives by standards of behavior, ideas, feelings, or instincts which do not correspond to their inner reality. What is truly serious in this matter is that the individual loses all points of reference regarding what comprises truth, and what comprises lies. He becomes used to considering as true only that which is convenient for his personal interests; everything that is in opposition to his self-esteem or in conflict with already established prejudices, he considers false."
- John Baines
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Re: Tripping without drugs? [Re: Icelander]
#16279013 - 05/24/12 05:25 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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I actually just got out of a 4-day stint in a psych ward for punching a guy in the face rofl.
I'm honestly a teddy bear and I wouldn't have normally done it.
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"There never was any forgetfulness for Self."
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