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 Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug 
#16275718 - 05/23/12 11:57 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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http://wvgazette.com/News/201205230316?page=1
CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- U.S. senators on Wednesday evening unanimously passed an amendment to a Food and Drug Administration reauthorization bill that would reclassify all hydrocodone substances and make punishment for their trafficking more severe.
The amendment, introduced by Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., would reclassify painkillers like Vicodin and Lortab as Schedule II drugs, which also affects how they are to be stored and prescribed.
For instance, patients would need an original prescription for refills, hydrocodone pills would need to be transported and stored more securely and traffickers would be subject to increased criminal penalties, according to a news release from Manchin's office.
Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and three other senators -- including two other Democrats and a Republican -- co-sponsored the amendment.
"I'm truly pleased that this amendment has passed and will make it much harder for anyone to abuse these prescription drugs," Manchin said in a statement. "I offered this legislation on behalf of the countless West Virginians whose lives have been cut short by drug abuse and the families who are picking up the pieces.
"I'm committed to working extremely hard across the aisle to see this most important legislation passed," he said.
Prescription drugs are responsible for about 90 percent of all drug-related deaths in West Virginia, and about 75 percent in the U.S, according to Manchin's release.
Schedule I drugs contain the most dangerous substances. Currently, hydrocodone is considered a Schedule II drug, but when combined with substances like Tylenol, they are listed in a less stringent category, Schedule III.
The amendment would make all substances containing hydrocodone Schedule II drugs.
Findings show that more than 40 people die every day from overdoses involving narcotic pain relievers like hydrocodone, methadone, oxycodone and oxymorphone.
"Prescription drug abuse is a very real epidemic that we must stop," Rockefeller said in a statement. "Too many West Virginia families and communities have been hurt terribly, and I've been fighting to turn the tide on abuse."
In addition to co-sponsoring Manchin's amendment, Rockefeller introduced a provision to the FDA reauthorization bill that helps to ensure that doctors, nurses and health-care professionals who prescribe painkillers "get the training they need so they don't overprescribe drugs and can reduce the potential for patient abuse," according to a news release from Rockefeller's office.
Rockefeller's provision would require the Institute of Medicine to study the scope and scale of education requirements for physicians and other people who prescribe medicine. The Institute of Medicine is an independent agency of medical and public health experts who advise Congress on medical and health issues.
Rockefeller also offered an amendment to help support state prescription drug monitoring programs.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: withoutawire]
#16275744 - 05/24/12 12:00 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Wow, that's really interesting.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: bryguy27007]
#16275820 - 05/24/12 12:09 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Reclassifying it will stop the overdoses 
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: withoutawire]
#16276428 - 05/24/12 02:04 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Reclassifying it will only possibly change how people get ahold of it, but it will minimally at best slow down the usage of hydrocodone.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: withoutawire]
#16276506 - 05/24/12 02:39 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Good. Tylenol 3 is a far superior medicine anyways. It'll be easier to ask for that now instead of shitty Vicodin.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#16276651 - 05/24/12 03:28 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Rail_Gun said:
Good. Tylenol 3 is a far superior medicine anyways. It'll be easier to ask for that now instead of shitty Vicodin.
ive always found codeine to be a weak chemical even for pain killing.. I always tell whoever my physician is that i am allergic to codeine and tramadol in order to get hydrocodone..
And i dont really see how this will change the abuse of medicine... will this make prescribing the drug more difficult or rare.. im really high right now
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Ellis Dee]
#16276664 - 05/24/12 03:32 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Rail_Gun said:
Good. Tylenol 3 is a far superior medicine anyways. It'll be easier to ask for that now instead of shitty Vicodin.
It depends on the person. i get no relief from t3 but a small relief from vicodin. I hate painkillers because they really dont help me much; have never abused them or taken them to get high. ive been prescribed both for tooth pain and like i said t3 changed nothing and hydrocodone helps a very very little (aka better that nothing). The response to painkillers is diffent from person to person
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Sykey]
#16276678 - 05/24/12 03:39 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Also if i have a headache or pain anywhere in my body i will not take tylonol for the same reason, it does nothing for me, only naproxen sodium (aleve) or ibuprofen (advil) helps.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Sykey]
#16276688 - 05/24/12 03:42 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I'm one of those "immune" to hydrocodone.. I have to take around 35mg to actually get any effects and it isn't that great of a high for me. Codeine though is alright, gives me that opiate blanket and makes everything giddy and pleasurable.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: At My Peak]
#16276701 - 05/24/12 03:48 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. 150 mg of codeine and I'll nod like on M. I've taken upwards of 60mg of hydrocodone and it's nowhere near as pleasant.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: At My Peak]
#16276761 - 05/24/12 04:12 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I'm one of those "immune" to hydrocodone.. I have to take around 35mg to actually get any effects and it isn't that great of a high for me. Codeine though is alright, gives me that opiate blanket and makes everything giddy and pleasurable.
this is an attempt at troll right?..
i mean............ woah.. im going to take you as seriously as i can in the state of mind..
ya know what.. im too high to come up with an intelligent series of words to express my feelings so i am going to be as blatant as possible and say that being "immune" to any drug seems ridiculous.. i know you were probably just implying that you have what you perceive as a high tolerance... That leads me to my next pointless point, i abused hydrocodone, it honestly was my favorite opioid untill it just didnt work anymore.. started with 30mgs to feel good, stepped it up to 50mgs and discovered a nod and from there on i kept using hydrocodone and oxycodone (as well as hydromorphone, heroin, and methadone but it minute amounts) for a few months, eventually 110mgs was the sweet spot.. the last time i took hydrocodone i ingested around 200mgs and the effects at the recreational level were barley there....i digress, my point is you have a long way to go before your "immune". Hydrocodone still gets me high but i doubt ill ever achieve a nodd on it ever again...
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#16276925 - 05/24/12 06:14 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I'm one of those "immune" to hydrocodone.. I have to take around 35mg to actually get any effects and it isn't that great of a high for me. Codeine though is alright, gives me that opiate blanket and makes everything giddy and pleasurable.
this is an attempt at troll right?..
Im not sure exactly what peak meant by this but from what interpeted he is 100% dead on. Like i said earlier, i could take how ever much codeine and it has NO effect on me (and this has been true even the first time i took some) just like he said about hydroC. So like peak said, i am "immune" to codeine. Now immune may not be the exact, correct word/definition of what he meant but its pretty clear of what the meaning of what he said / was trying to say was. Now im not trying to go at you, as you said you were high when you wrote that, just i dont like the disrespect. We are all here for the same reason, this is an intelligent conversation between family, otherwise stay out with the attacks. ////////////////// Actually i just read his post again and he said he needs 35mg to feel something; and i have been drinking so invisible, you are the one right about him not being immune because he said he feels something at 35mg. I dont feel like rewring this so i wont, i just dont understand why you labeled his comment as trolling. time for me to go to bed, sykey
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Sykey]
#16276987 - 05/24/12 07:10 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Sykey said:
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Invisible_Woe said:
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At My Peak said:
I'm one of those "immune" to hydrocodone.. I have to take around 35mg to actually get any effects and it isn't that great of a high for me. Codeine though is alright, gives me that opiate blanket and makes everything giddy and pleasurable.
this is an attempt at troll right?..
Im not sure exactly what peak meant by this but from what interpeted he is 100% dead on. Like i said earlier, i could take how ever much codeine and it has NO effect on me (and this has been true even the first time i took some) just like he said about hydroC. So like peak said, i am "immune" to codeine. Now immune may not be the exact, correct word/definition of what he meant but its pretty clear of what the meaning of what he said / was trying to say was. Now im not trying to go at you, as you said you were high when you wrote that, just i dont like the disrespect. We are all here for the same reason, this is an intelligent conversation between family, otherwise stay out with the attacks. ////////////////// Actually i just read his post again and he said he needs 35mg to feel something; and i have been drinking so invisible, you are the one right about him not being immune because he said he feels something at 35mg. I dont feel like rewring this so i wont, i just dont understand why you labeled his comment as trolling. time for me to go to bed, sykey
Ive been drinking for at least 20 hours. Mostly it was wine i drank yesterday afternoon but i had also had a bottle the night/morning before...\\\\\\\
 because fuck yeah for being drunk
I just thought he might be trolling because he declared himself immune after needing 35mgs to "get any effects". I found that the recreational effects of hydrocodone increase with dosage (unlike codeine[probably a personal experience]) so it seems like upping the dosage (which i do not condone or recommend in any way) would make a big difference
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#16277136 - 05/24/12 08:38 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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35mg will give me the mood boost but nothing else.. That's the largest amount I've taken because to me it's just a waste to even do anymore. I find natural opiates to be a LOT better than opioids. Codeine is okay but not strong, just a nice little feeling. Morphine is great, one of the best highs I've had. Hydrocodone did nothing and Oxycodone was fun like codeine but it had an effect in between codeine and morphine, with added nausea and low duration. By "immune" I didn't literally mean I was immune, but more like we all know those people who for certain substances need to take large amounts more than most other people would need to take to get an effect. I didn't know how common it was, I thought it was odd that I would receive threshhold effects at that level when I have personally seen many people hit the floor after only taking 20mg. I know how you perceived my last post and I completely understand your reply, yes I just have a naturally high tolerance or maybe my brain chemistry is different who knows. Everyone is completely different.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: At My Peak]
#16277194 - 05/24/12 09:08 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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This is just awesome. Now when ever I need a tooth pulled or anyone needs their wisdom teeth removed, the Dr will have a hell of a time giving you more then 3 500mg vicodins, hooray!
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: cozc]
#16279285 - 05/24/12 06:50 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Just sounds like a new way to drive up the price on the black market 
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: Ganja420Boy]
#16279476 - 05/24/12 07:42 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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sounds like a new prescription painkiller is about to hit the markets. Maybe they couldn't get away with creating a shortage like with adderall to make way for vicoden, so they bought out west virginias dipshit congressionals.
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Re: Hydrocodone to be Reclassified as Schedule II Drug [Re: SpecialEd]
#16279630 - 05/24/12 08:16 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Great the people who REALLY need it will have a much harder time 
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