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help...holes before pressure cooking???
    #16272514 - 05/23/12 12:42 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Hi...is it neccessary to poke holes in the lids of the jars before pressure cooking or can you put the lids on and make the holes just before inoculation. Thankyou


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: Apexcrest1]
    #16272517 - 05/23/12 12:43 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Always before PC


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    #16272519 - 05/23/12 12:44 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

What does the tek say?


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16272543 - 05/23/12 12:49 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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What does the tek say?



:laugh2:

HA! folks dont read teks anymore! ure silly. :willynilly:


OP, you need holes in the lid (regardless of the tek) to keep from creating a vacuum in your jars; equal pressure in the jar and the PC is essential. noc ports and GE ports (with filter material) are very important.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: YouKnowEdDavis]
    #16272592 - 05/23/12 01:02 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Yeah I forgot that people don't read those things :facepalm3: I think that everyone who signs up for this site should have to watch www.mushroomvideos.com before they can  post :shrug:


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16272630 - 05/23/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

You know what... teks are teks...that's why I come here to ask people that know like you


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: Apexcrest1]
    #16272643 - 05/23/12 01:14 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

I'm all for not reading a TEK. Fuck a TEK. Learn the background info and come up with something yourself.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: Apexcrest1]
    #16272647 - 05/23/12 01:15 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Can I do the process over again....poke holes and re pressure cook????


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #16272670 - 05/23/12 01:26 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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I'm all for not reading a TEK. Fuck a TEK. Learn the background info and come up with something yourself.




Yah man, fuck a tek, waste countless hours and all sorts of materials before learning how
to do it right, fuck conforming!

I am all for experimentation and going off the beaten path, but you need to have a foundation,
walk before you run...


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: Apexcrest1]
    #16272675 - 05/23/12 01:28 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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Can I do the process over again....poke holes and re pressure cook????




Are you doing PF tek, are you doing grains? More information will be helpful.

Re-pressure cooking material is fine, would more then likely be an easier time then trying
to poke holes under aseptic conditions to avoid contamination your jars.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16272728 - 05/23/12 01:41 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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What does the tek say?




Brilliant penetrating question here.

and somehow familiar... :strokebeard:


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16273022 - 05/23/12 03:00 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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36fuckin5 said:
I'm all for not reading a TEK. Fuck a TEK. Learn the background info and come up with something yourself.




Yah man, fuck a tek, waste countless hours and all sorts of materials before learning how
to do it right, fuck conforming!

I am all for experimentation and going off the beaten path, but you need to have a foundation,
walk before you run...




Which is why I said to learn some background info first. I'm not advising anyone to just jump in head first, but there are a million ways to do this, a lot of which work very well.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #16273035 - 05/23/12 03:02 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

How do you learn background information without reading a tek? Your logic is flawed, but
carry on sir.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16273218 - 05/23/12 03:53 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

To answer your silly question, OP

If you drill the holes AFTER you sterilize, then you're going to risk contaminating with the dirty nail/new hole.

Always always always always make your holes before you put em in the PC/Pot


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16273962 - 05/23/12 06:19 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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How do you learn background information without reading a tek? Your logic is flawed, but
carry on sir.




Lol, by reading things about microbiology. Google Scholar FTMFW. Things like TMC or GGMM. Not something that's gonna hold your hand the entire way through and not actually teach much about what's really going on.

To me, TEKs are more of a "this is how I pulled it off" instead of "this is how you should do it" type of thing.


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #16274029 - 05/23/12 06:31 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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To me, TEKs are more of a "this is how I pulled it off" instead of "this is how you should do it" type of thing.




You have obviously never seen many of my teks :lol:

I am all for learning, read books, watch videos, tutorials etc..why limit yourself to your
learning by not reading teks and articles on growing? I personally use every tool at my
disposal to further my learning...its the smart thing to do:shrug:


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16274109 - 05/23/12 06:44 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Teks are def a better way to go about it.
Especially pictorials.
Without them is like pointing at water and saying "eat".
Withit is giving them a pole and showing them how to do it =]


Its nice doing something hands on, messing up asking what you think you did wrong and learning from it
in the process you learn why things are doing what they are doing.

For me going this route made me interested in and undertake microbiology a lot better =]


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16274237 - 05/23/12 07:12 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Thanks guys I re did everything and re pressure cooked them all. It taught me a valuable lesson to really take care of these things like little babies...mushroom babies that is....And if it wasnt for the tens I wouldn't know what to do...so it is valuable to ME. Anyhow....should I just birth my pf cake...birththe cakes and mist once there colonized....ive tried shroom wizards grow tel once where I crumbled the colonozed cakes and added soil...but I got a green contaminate...what is the best method for easy yield....all reccommendations are highly appreciated. Obviously I'm not at that stage yet but I will be soon....thanks....


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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: Apexcrest1]
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Re: help...holes before pressure cooking??? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16274273 - 05/23/12 07:17 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Just birth them as cakes, you wont be able to get much more (if anymore) out of a cake spawning it to anything.

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