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 Titus_Pullo
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"Do not stress pork [meat], alcohol or tobacco in the West. Tell them that what comes out of the mouth is far more important than what goes into it."
-Meher Baba
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 whatsgrimace
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excellent answer
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Lion
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nicechrisman said:
Lion-I think it's interesting that your spiritual zest and your zest for vegetarianism both seemed to fade around the same time. What correlation do you think is there?
All of it had to do with being lonely in my lifestyle choices and seeking acceptance from peers. I wasn't ready for the ascetic discipline that I idealized at the time.
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halo
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It is interesting for sure.
I was a vegetarian for about 2 years or so (excluding thanksgivings and christmas) and I recently went to Spain for a few months and realized I could not be a vegetarian there.
I'm back home but have not yet returned to vegetarianism. I did enjoy eating lots of meat in Spain. I mean, it is pretty tasty and they have great ham. Yet, I find myself wanting to be a vegetarian again.
Although I have deviated from a spiritual path I find that my overall well-being, how I feel, how my body feels, is lighter when I'm a vegetarian. When I eat meat regularly I am more weighed down for sure. It's hard to explain.
I haven't found eating meat to be detrimental to my health necessarily. Then again that was in Europe and since being back in the US my meat consumption is even higher than it is there. I can tell this is not healthy. If I don't go back to being a vegetarian I am definitely scaling back my eating of red meat.
I decided to abandon vegetarianism because I felt I had to. I wanted to see if eating meat was all that worse or what the deal was. I've been eating meat. I still want to be a vegetarian again though..it just feels better to me.
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 Re: eating meat/vegetarianism  [Re: halo]
#16248009 - 05/18/12 01:27 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Since coincidence made me eat a vegetarian food two years ago, I seem to thrive and not even thinking for a moment to start eating meat again. Then again, vegetarian food is not necessarily healthy. French fries, macaroni and cheese and vegi pizza won't do the trick.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: cbub]
#16248940 - 05/18/12 09:03 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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For sure there are other health concerns about food other than whether or not it contains meat. I dated a vegan girl for a while that I'm faily convinced that she pretty much only ate french fries. That is not a healthy diet.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: halo]
#16255548 - 05/19/12 10:26 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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halo said:
Although I have deviated from a spiritual path I find that my overall well-being, how I feel, how my body feels, is lighter when I'm a vegetarian. When I eat meat regularly I am more weighed down for sure. It's hard to explain.
 This has been my experience as well. Became a vegetarian two years ago and it definitely makes the body feel lighter, less weighed down. Foods have a big effect on one's vibrational frequency and a vegetarian diet certainly feels lighter in my experience.
The average person would dismiss the above view as "newage nonsense" so when people ask about it i usually just use the moral argument: "i don't feel it's necessary to eat animals to survive."
though that IS a part of it, i do it more for how it makes me me feel...lighter, cleaner, more connected to my inner vibration.
i don't like drinking alcohol either, as it feels even heavier than meat in my experience. it's REALLY hard to avoid though, especially if a friend is having a birthday party centered around the ritual consumption of alcohol  . I only drink in these situations to "fit in," though i wish i could avoid it altogether like i do with meat. 
Edited by resonant111 (05/19/12 10:29 PM)
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i agree too - when i switched to vegetarianism i noticed a huge lightening effect on my being - felt almost like a karmic weight was lifted off 
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: deff]
#16257152 - 05/20/12 09:26 AM (1 year, 23 hours ago) |
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I accidentally had a bit of chicken last night in a chicken salad I didn't realize was a chicken salad. I decided to eat the whole portion on my plate as it would be disrespectful to the chicken to just throw it away.
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Titus_Pullo
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I can repsect vegetarians in the sense that they do not wish to hurt animals, or for emotional/spiritual reasons. The argument between vegetarianism and meat eating lies when people try to say it's better, or healthier.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: Titus_Pullo]
#16267370 - 05/22/12 01:34 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Titus_Pullo said:
I can repsect vegetarians in the sense that they do not wish to hurt animals, or for emotional/spiritual reasons. The argument between vegetarianism and meat eating lies when people try to say it's better, or healthier.
A problem i run into is when someone who eats meat offers you food and you have to reject it because you're vegetarian. I've had people get legitimately offended by it. At the very least they "heavily question" your vegetarian diet, or even worse, mock or make fun of it.
Some people automatically act like you're "looking down on them" for eating meat, even though you aren't. For me, that's the hardest part about being vegetarian.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: resonant111]
#16267737 - 05/22/12 03:08 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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I usually act a fool and make fun of myself in such situation. Like 'you know there always has to be someone complicating, don't you just hate it?' and then they are all like.. oh, it's no problem, it's alright, instead of being offended.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: cbub]
#16267801 - 05/22/12 03:18 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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this past week i've eaten more meat than i have in months, and it was all in sandwich form. my grandparents buy the food around here, and it was already there, so i figured "what would happen if i didn't eat it?" it would just get thrown out. total waste
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Factory farming sucks and because of it I eat little meat. I'm not against meat in theory, and free range stuff is fine by me.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16267996 - 05/22/12 03:58 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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everyone used to have a garden in their backyard
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whatsgrimace
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when's the last time you saw a fruit tree growing wildly
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I'm as good as dead. Every living thing is as good as dead. If you can't eat it or fuck it, kill it. If I can't eat any more large bleeding steaks, please kill me.
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You've thoroughly blown their mind. And now I must have passage on the lines To the veins from your heart. You're not invisible, now. You just don't exist. Your mother must be so proud. You sublimate yourself, drowning us of rich, primitive mirror on the wall, to fortify your grim resolve. And made the glitz of a shopping mall another grain of indigent salt to the sea. Go back to this wretched form
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: resonant111]
#16271680 - 05/23/12 07:26 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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resonant111 said:
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Titus_Pullo said:
I can repsect vegetarians in the sense that they do not wish to hurt animals, or for emotional/spiritual reasons. The argument between vegetarianism and meat eating lies when people try to say it's better, or healthier.
A problem i run into is when someone who eats meat offers you food and you have to reject it because you're vegetarian. I've had people get legitimately offended by it. At the very least they "heavily question" your vegetarian diet, or even worse, mock or make fun of it.
Some people automatically act like you're "looking down on them" for eating meat, even though you aren't. For me, that's the hardest part about being vegetarian.
YOu have another similar post where you excessively worry about what others think of your life choices. You are concerned that they won't like you or approve of you. Do you really want to have friends like this. Your whole life will be acting out while others pull the strings. We all do it unfortunately but one can learn to minimize it.
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Re: eating meat/vegetarianism [Re: cbub]
#16272087 - 05/23/12 10:51 AM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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cbub said:
You've thoroughly blown their mind. And now I must have passage on the lines To the veins from your heart. You're not invisible, now. You just don't exist. Your mother must be so proud. You sublimate yourself, drowning us of rich, primitive mirror on the wall, to fortify your grim resolve. And made the glitz of a shopping mall another grain of indigent salt to the sea. Go back to this wretched form
-the shins
Those are some awesome lyrics, I've never heard the shins.
I don't believe that scientists on nutritionism know what they are talking about, nutrition can become a sick, worthless religion. I feel empathy for plants that get hurt and abjects that get broken, what makes an animal more important? fact is that life feeds on life and that hurts. Now I fully support vegetarianism for those who find it easy and natural, thats your path, but if its a pain in the ass then it not for you. Ideology of laziness maybe.
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In every winter there's a different cold
in every winter I feel so old
so very old as the night
so very old as the dreadful cold
Edited by usulpsychonaut (05/23/12 10:52 AM)
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