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InvisibleKBG1977
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Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination
    #16253181 - 05/19/12 08:24 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So,I just recently,got some seeds of both,and I was wondering if anybody has any tips on good germination from them?I'm really excited about growing these,and I don't want to foul it up:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16253421 - 05/19/12 10:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

You can germinate succulents the same way as cacti. I use a mix of vermiculite, coir and fine grained sand, sprinkle the seeds on top and add a tiny bit of sand on them, not even covering them completely.

Try one of the cactus germination teks on this site or on mycotopia, they'll work awesome.


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: ManicMongrel]
    #16253602 - 05/19/12 12:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

right on man,I'm good at germinating cacti seeds,and was just mainly wanting to know if anybody else has grown either of them,and what method they used:-)Thanks for the reply:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16253633 - 05/19/12 12:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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right on man,I'm good at germinating cacti seeds,and was just mainly wanting to know if anybody else has grown either of them,and what method they used:-)Thnaks for the reply:-)




manic mongrel is correct. i germinated my sceletium seeds the same way i di peyoots.

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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16253638 - 05/19/12 12:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

right on Thanks guys,I'm going to get at it,as soon as I got to the creek to get some sand:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16253854 - 05/19/12 01:37 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

They are very easy.  Grow a lot faster than cacti and the seed is supposed to actually gain viability with age (within a limit, ofc).


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: PoC]
    #16253871 - 05/19/12 01:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

hey,that's good to know PoC,how ya been buddy,long time no hear?


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16253939 - 05/19/12 02:11 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

The growing information on the site of WSS is very helpful: http://www.worldseedsupply.org/proddetail.php?prod=kanS010

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Sceletium seeds contain germination inhibitors. This is actually a common defense for many plant species because it causes staggered germination, which has various survival benefits in the wild. The inhibitor is soluble in water. So the first step is to remove it, either by an extended soak (up to a few weeks) while remembering to change the water daily or by rinsing the seeds thoroughly under running water. Using the extended soak method, seeds may germinate during the soaking process. As with all cultivation, distilled or bottled water is always better than tap water. Gibberrelic acid treatment will also counteract the effects of the inhibitors and cause quicker, more even germination than any other method. After removing the germination inhibitors, some growers also recommend scarifying the seeds by putting them in a bag of sterile sand and shaking them so that the sand wears down the seed coat. Seeds should then be sown on top of a sterile, sandy soil mixture. Addition of a fungicide is beneficial. Cover the pot with clear plastic to keep in humidity. Optimal germination temperature is about 60-65 degrees Fahrenheit, although some growers prefer temperature fluctuations between day and night. Seeds will do best when placed close to fluorescent lights. Typical germination time is anywhere from two weeks to two months.





I'm also planning to grow Sceletium tortuosum soon!


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Poison Drink]
    #16254259 - 05/19/12 04:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Cool man,we should start up a log,or something:-)I'm heading down to get some sand and small gravel fragments tomorrow to start on my mix.Gotta repot a Loph too:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16254341 - 05/19/12 04:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Cool man,we should start up a log,or something:-)I'm heading down to get some sand and small gravel fragments tomorrow to start on my mix.Gotta repot a Loph too:-)





DO IT. I :heart: logs. Plus, you always grow big, sexiful plants.


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Ieponumos]
    #16254441 - 05/19/12 05:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Aw Thanks buddy:-)I have the seeds sitting right here,just need to pick up some sand.I'm going to get them soaking now.I hope some germinate well,those germination inhibitors don't sound good at all.Cool link too Poison:thumbup:


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16254448 - 05/19/12 05:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Aw Thanks buddy:-)I have the seeds sitting right here,just need to pick up some sand.I'm going to get them soaking now.I hope some germinate well,those germination inhibitors don't sound good at all.Cool link too Poison:thumbup:




Nah, it's cool. Most xeric plants have them, including Lophs. That's one reason why it takes a few days for them to pop up after putting them in the bag.


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Ieponumos]
    #16254457 - 05/19/12 05:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Wow,I never knew this! I learn something new ever day,Thanks:grin:I have mine soaking now,so I'll be sure and go out and get that sand tomorrow:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Ieponumos]
    #16254546 - 05/19/12 05:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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KBG1977 said:
Cool man,we should start up a log,or something:-)I'm heading down to get some sand and small gravel fragments tomorrow to start on my mix.Gotta repot a Loph too:-)





DO IT. I :heart: logs. Plus, you always grow big, sexiful plants.




Maybe Leponumos grows big, sexiful plants, but I never have a lot of luck it seems. My Delosperma bosseranum plants shrinkled and died during the winter. Hope I can figure how to keep them alive next time.

I also got some new Delosperma seed so I can compare the growth rates of both. Now I only need to wait for the Sceletium seeds to arrive.. Btw, I mostly read Sceletium tortuosum prefers indirect sunlight, though I read they will grow much faster in direct sunlight. It's stated in an amazing growlog at another board, no idea if I may post a link?


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Poison Drink]
    #16254584 - 05/19/12 06:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting,and I think you can post the link bro:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977] * 1
    #16254667 - 05/19/12 06:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

This is the most amazing Sceletium tortuosum growlog I've ever seen. He also has a Delosperma bosseranum growlog which is equally amazing!

https://mycotopia.net/forums/botanicals/56675-kanna-sceletium-tortuosum-seeding.html#post1150975


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: Poison Drink]
    #16254712 - 05/19/12 06:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Holy crap,that was an awesome post! I hope I can get mine to look like that:-)


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16254786 - 05/19/12 07:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

i wonder if its possible to graft sceletium onto something.

i 'd be interested in doing this. maybe to pereskiopsis if at all possible.


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: KBG1977]
    #16254790 - 05/19/12 07:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Cant wait to see some pics of these as they grow.  Ive been trying to get some sceletium seeds for awhile here in Australia, but no luck yet.  I am very jealous.


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Re: Mesembryanthemum,and Sceletium tortuosum Germination [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16254791 - 05/19/12 07:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

hmmm,feral,I wouldn't think it would be possible since one is a cactus,and the other is a succulent,would be Awesome though if it were possible:grin:


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