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EntheogenicPeace said:
I would withhold any judgment on the matter until a decision is reached. It wouldn't surprise that that they would simply be "looking at it", as this would seem to be a routine thing to do during an investigation.
In a racist Whitehouse, it doesn't surprise me that they are looking at it with the intent to open Zimmerman's asshole.
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Note: I do not really agree with the concept of a "hate crime" carrying extra penalties vs the same crime with a different, "non-hate" motivation.
Good, because if someone shoots the woman, gay or minority standing next to me, and then shoots me as well... I am not any less dead or any less deserving of justice.
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Lion said,
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I haven't posted in this thread for a while, but I want to apologize to those I accused earlier of rushing to judgment. It was I who rushed to the belief that George Zimmerman was guilty of murder, without knowing the facts.
So, now that you know some facts what do you believe?  
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I have no belief one way or the other. I invested myself too much emotionally at the start, and now I've decided to leave the resolution in the hands of those more knowledgeable than myself.
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 Re: trayvon martin shooting  [Re: Lion]
#16240524 - 05/16/12 04:29 PM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
Looking better and better for George.
Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles
i called it didnt I?
I recall saying bruises obtained right before death dont swell and show up normally, and that a qualified corinor needs to do an autopsy. The martin family funeral director was not a qualified examiner.
but those things dont matter when youre a gulliable, race baiting liberal.
facts dont matter for liberals, just unabaited, gulliable, rash emotionalism.
they play you suckers like a fiddle and you fall for it so easy.
bu the way, want to buy some ocean front property in kansas?
real cheap..... oh and 50% of proceeds goes to help underprivalidged children.
liberal; "SOLD!"
conservative; "but theres no ocean near kansas"
liberal; "you hate underprivalidged children!"
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: Shins]
#16240723 - 05/16/12 05:16 PM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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Lion said,
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I have no belief one way or the other. I invested myself too much emotionally at the start, and now I've decided to leave the resolution in the hands of those more knowledgeable than myself.
Cool, that takes a lot of stones.
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: Shins]
#16242177 - 05/16/12 09:53 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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Shins said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
Looking better and better for George.
Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles
i called it didnt I?
I recall saying bruises obtained right before death dont swell and show up normally, and that a qualified corinor needs to do an autopsy. The martin family funeral director was not a qualified examiner.
but those things dont matter when youre a gulliable, race baiting liberal.
facts dont matter for liberals, just unabaited, gulliable, rash emotionalism.
they play you suckers like a fiddle and you fall for it so easy.
bu the way, want to buy some ocean front property in kansas?
real cheap..... oh and 50% of proceeds goes to help underprivalidged children.
liberal; "SOLD!"
conservative; "but theres no ocean near kansas"
liberal; "you hate underprivalidged children!"
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luvdemshrooms
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Looks like George will do OK.
Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting
By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) , SENI TIENABESO (@senijr_abc) and COLLEEN CURRY
May 17, 2012
Two police reports written the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin said that Zimmerman had a bloody face and nose, according to police reports made public today.
The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches.
In addition, Trayvon Martin's father told an investigator after listening to 911 tapes that captured a man's voice frantically callling for help that it was not his son calling for help.
The new information is part of a trove of documents released by the Florida State Attorney today in the case against Zimmerman, who is charged with second degree murder for the Feb. 26 killing of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old African American male.
Zimmerman, 28, is a multi-racial Hispanic man who volunteered for the neighborhood watch committee who claimed that he shot Martin in self-defense after the 6-foot tall, 160 pound teenager knocked him to the ground, banged his head against the ground and went for Zimmerman's gun.
Two police officers reported that when they arrived at the scene of the shooting, Zimmerman seemed to have a broken nose and bloodied face. One wrote that his "facial area was bloodied," and the back of his clothing was soiled with wet grass.
"Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head," Officer Ricardo Ayala wrote.
Another officer wrote, "I saw that Zimmerman's face was bloodied and it appeared to me that his nose was broken."
Witnesses, whose names were redacted from the report, also lent support to Zimmerman's version of what happened.
"He witnesses a black male, wearing a dark colored 'hoodie' on top of a white or Hispanic male and throwing punches 'MMA (mixed martial arts) style," the police report of the witness said. "He then heard a pop. He stated that after hearing the pop, he observed the person he had previously observed on top of the other person (the male wearing the hoodie) laid out on the grass."
A second witness described a person on the ground with another straddling him and throwing punches. The man on the bottom was yelling for help, the witness told police.
The documents state that Zimmerman can be heard yelling for help 14 times on a 911 call recorded during the fight.
The lead investigator on the case, Officer Christopher Serino, wrote that Zimmerman could be heard "yelling for help as he was being battered by Trayvon Martin."
Martin's death sparked public outrage after police released Zimmerman without any criminal charges for the killing. Zimmerman was later charged with second-degree murder, and the killing provoked widespread debate about racial profiling.
The autopsy also shows that Zimmerman shot Martin from a distance of between 1 inch and 18 inches away, bolstering Zimmerman's claim that he shot Martin during a close struggle.
Martin's autopsy report also revealed that there was a quarter-inch by half-inch abrasion on the left fourth finger of Martin, another indication of a possible struggle. The teen, who lived in Miami, was in Sanford while serving a suspension for a bag of marijuana being discovered in his possession.
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: zappaisgod]
#16246369 - 05/17/12 07:22 PM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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Other than a pacifier for those of a similar political persuasion... no.
Well, pet waste.
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Great article.
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: Lion]
#16247480 - 05/17/12 11:23 PM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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And I myself owe the Sanford PD an apology.
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Police: Trayvon Martin's death 'ultimately avoidable'
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Just over two weeks after the fatal shooting -- and less than a month before an arrest was made -- police in Sanford, Florida, urged prosecutors to take George Zimmerman into custody after arguing his killing of Trayvon Martin was "ultimately avoidable."
"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog (sic) in an effort to dispel each party's concern" the request said. "There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity."
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: Shins]
#16247519 - 05/17/12 11:33 PM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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facts dont matter for liberals, just unabaited, gulliable, rash emotionalism.
But certainly this couldn't describe "limited government" conservatives who push for (& got it in NC) an amendment to ban gay marriage.
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conservative; "but theres no ocean near kansas"
Given that most conservatives (45% of total U.S. population) think that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, I wouldn't hold them up as rational geologist types.
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Remember Martin? He's dead and underground with a hole blown in his chest. Zimmerman may have gotten a broken nose? His head was scraped up? Poor guy. Poor, suffering George Zimmerman. It's "imperative" he see his psychologist.
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Yeah, and if Zimmerman didn't blow that hole in his chest who knows what could've happened to Zimmerman, he could've been beaten to death, he obviously can't defend himself if he had to pull out a gun. Not saying I'm glad martin's dead or anything like that, but people get killed by attacking others, just the way it goes.
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Not Quite Social said:
It's "imperative" he see his psychologist.
After getting his ass handed to him and shooting someone in defense, it's no small wonder that he felt the psychological trauma was much more pressing than the minor, physical wounds that were inflicted upon him.
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So lets say he's acquitted of all charges; his troubles have just begun. There's a thousand haters out there that will be wanting to take a crack at taking him out in "revenge". He won't be safe in the land of the free and home of the brave.
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Icelander
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EntheogenicPeace said:
And I myself owe the Sanford PD an apology.
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Police: Trayvon Martin's death 'ultimately avoidable'
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Just over two weeks after the fatal shooting -- and less than a month before an arrest was made -- police in Sanford, Florida, urged prosecutors to take George Zimmerman into custody after arguing his killing of Trayvon Martin was "ultimately avoidable."
"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog (sic) in an effort to dispel each party's concern" the request said. "There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity."
There's a lot of speculation in there imo.
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If I confront someone unjustly that does not give them the right to initiate physical violence if that's what happened.
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Re: trayvon martin shooting [Re: Icelander]
#16248989 - 05/18/12 09:31 AM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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Fwg, Zimmerman had a psychologist before he murdered Martin. How many close friends or family do you have who have a psychologist? The more I learn about the guy, the more convinced I am that MI may have factored into all of this.
Icelander, I don't think a jury will find him innocent, after all, he murdered Martin. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him safe in prison.
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I think your posts are full of shit. Just hope you never end up on a jury anywhere. You certainly are not a peer of mine.
I don't think he'd be safe in prison either as long as folk of your ilk are around.
Edited by Icelander (05/18/12 09:48 AM)
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