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 Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite?  [Re: treesniper119]
#16357198 - 06/09/12 07:18 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I believe there is a ruling elite and it is corporations.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: jaybird13]
#16357215 - 06/09/12 07:22 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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jaybird13 said:
I believe there is a ruling elite and it is corporations.
How would you define "ruling elite"? It is definitely true that the world is not run by homeless people or the middle class. It never has been, never will be...
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16357258 - 06/09/12 07:31 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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treesniper119 said:
You don't stand for something you'll fall for anything
nice slogan
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So what religion are our leaders? Everytime they have been interviewed they claim Christianity, yet they are clearly lying to us aren't they prisoner #1?
we have muslims, christians and jews in congress, are you saying all of them
profess to be christian or are you basing your bias for your beliefs that
they're all christian on your beliefs of your fictitious friend or are you
somehow under the impression that our only leader is the president
do you somehow think with all the rhetoric of being a christian that they
actually are christians? we're a secular nation as this country was founded
and I'd much rather keep dogma out of my politics so when some tool running
for office get on the TV and starts preaching about his beliefs, I discount
their intelligence and ability to lead by a few points
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treesniper119
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So we have presidents, CEO's and the most famous and powerful men in this country attending a (homosexual) ritualistic ceremony, not worshiping the creator YHWH, but a giant false diety named Moloch in the shape of the totem owl, the same owl that is on the dollar bill in the top right corner on the baphomet moon/ rothschild family crest, along with all the other freemason stuff, more baphomet images, skull and bones, its all there. Secret society, hidden symbolism. You know the founding fathers were freemasons? If we started a country, and had our own click makin the rules, with hidden symbols, handshakes, meetings, goals, etc. I wouldn't give it up. Why would they?
What is wrong with that? Our leaders can worship whatever they want and I don't mind if some of our leaders do homosexual things in the woods. I do have some insight into what goes on at the Bohemian Grove - Some of it is homosexual but 99% of the time it involves drinking alcohol at an exclusive retreat. It isn't actually very hard to sneak in there at all. It is a large property out in the woods, with poorly constructed fences to keep people out. The Bohemian Grove has a large number of employees, caterers, campground hosts, etc. The locals who live nearby usually know several people employed there, and the goings-on don't actually remain much of a secret.
Some of the founders of the US were christain, others were aethiest, who cares. It would be fine with me if they worship satan to get a sense of spiritual fulfillment.
If our leaders want to meet in secret and discuss things with CEO's and other business leaders (Bilderburg), they have that right, and I am fine with that.
Regarding the 3 videos you posted, which parts do you find credible and disturbing?
Are you going to tell us why you think WWIII has started? When you make claims like that, it is difficult to take your other claims seriously.
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So what religion are our leaders? Everytime they have been interviewed they claim Christianity, yet they are clearly lying to us aren't they prisoner #1?
Barak Obama is a christian, though I don't get the feeling that he is that into religion in general.
When did i say that it started? i said maybe
So when i hear that they are having another "meeting", I automatically think trouble, fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice....& We all become enslaved to our nation this year, maybe WW3 (which we are kinda already in it, we're just in the beginning, feeling the birth pangs of the new born war that is being fulfilled right now)
So...let me get this straight.... its ok with you guys that in our leaders satanic/pagan/druid circles, human sacrifice (real or mock), child prostitution, homosexuality, Black magick sorcerers, etc. this is all cool? and ok with you sick bastards? Alester Crowley freemason, G.W.Bush freemason,
one was a sorcerer with an apatite for children's sexuality, and is one of the most evil men on earth and the other is a world leader also one of the most evil men on earth.
They're all the same crowd, its evil, and i guarantee they don't have our best interest as satanist leaders in our civil peaceful society. Given the records of high ranking ex-Illuminati and ex-satanist high priests. Their story is different then how peaceful you make our disgusting leaders out to be.
I dont care what they CLAIM to be, their actions clearly translate their intent. To refuse the fact of what our leaders are doing is wrong, you deserve to be the burning corpse for their cremation of care. Cause its ok right? yay human sacrifice!
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16357353 - 06/09/12 07:52 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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You sound awfully condescending enlil.
I apologize. It's really nothing personal. I have just come to realize that anyone who believes in some omnipotent creator is likely to believe in all sorts of fairy tales...
I have a hard time respecting people like that, and once the discussion turns into how "god fearing" someone is, that's a conversation within which I have no further place.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Enlil]
#16357368 - 06/09/12 07:57 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I took the term "god fearing" straight from the horses mouth, hate on the founding fathers, disrespect them all you like. How UnAmerican of you. So the beliefs this country was primarily founded on, from many "god fearing christians" has no place in this conversation? Well that's history bro, close those eyes and ears, your not paying attention anyways.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Enlil]
#16357372 - 06/09/12 07:58 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Enlil said:
I have just come to realize that anyone who believes in some omnipotent creator is likely to believe in all sorts of fairy tales...
God, chemtrails, WWIII, NWO, illuminati, microchips in our hands, etc.
Pris#1, that is interesting information on the religions of our leaders. It appears that if you want to be elected with greater frequency, be a Protestant, Catholic or Unspecified/Other. Worshiping other gods hurt your chances.
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So...let me get this straight.... its ok with you guys that in our leaders satanic/pagan/druid circles,
Yes, in fact I would be more likely to vote for a leader who was into this stuff than I would be to vote for a christian.
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human sacrifice (real or mock)
I don't think that is a good sign for a leader. Which of our leaders are into human sacrifice?
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, child prostitution
Which of our leaders are into child prostitution?
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, homosexuality
Yes, I think a homosexual person would make a great leader. Barney Frank is one prominent example.
If he ran for president, I would vote for him.
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, Black magick sorcerers, etc. this is all cool?
Yes. That is cool.
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and ok with you sick bastards?
Who is a sick bastard?
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They're all the same crowd, its evil, and i guarantee they don't have our best interest as satanist leaders in our civil peaceful society.
What is wrong with satanism?
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To refuse the fact of what our leaders are doing is wrong, you deserve to be the burning corpse for their cremation of care. Cause its ok right? yay human sacrifice!
Which of our leaders burns corpses?
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Enlil said:
I have just come to realize that anyone who believes in some omnipotent creator is likely to believe in all sorts of fairy tales...
God, chemtrails, WWIII, NWO, illuminati, microchips in our hands, etc.
Pris#1, that is interesting information on the religions of our leaders. It appears that if you want to be elected with greater frequency, be a Protestant, Catholic or Unspecified/Other. Worshiping other gods hurt your chances.
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So...let me get this straight.... its ok with you guys that in our leaders satanic/pagan/druid circles,
Yes, in fact I would be more likely to vote for a leader who was into this stuff than I would be to vote for a christian.
You've already voted for a number of presidents claimed Christianity, & who were caught doing that stuff, whether you realized it at that time or not.
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human sacrifice (real or mock)
I don't think that is a good sign for a leader. Which of our leaders are into human sacrifice?
Cremation of care & the last 4 presidents. Also the totem Owl deity represents Moloch from the old testament in the bible. Multiple sacrifices were made to him by passing your child through the fire. Please try and keep up.
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, child prostitution
Which of our leaders are into child prostitution?
Satanic leaders, the ones you'd vote for, are all the same ilk
http://ordinaryevil.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/cult-leader-convicted-for-satanic-ritual-abuse-involving-children/
Go Satanists!
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, homosexuality
Yes, I think a homosexual person would make a great leader. Barney Frank is one prominent example.
If he ran for president, I would vote for him.
Sorry but homosexuality off the table for me guy...It's not natural & It is flat out wrong & impossible to procreate. We would die off as a species if we all chose to be that way. And it is most certainly a choice.
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, Black magick sorcerers, etc. this is all cool?
Yes. That is cool.
Cool, then your a fan of the late Alester Crowley? The late, Illuminati and black magick sorcerer?
He loved little boys, had an apatite for them, and defiled them, even rumored to have sacrificed a few in satanic rituals. Why? because sorcerers see innocent children and babies as vessels of pure energy. Read about Alester.
(I'm glad you've really thought this thorough. I can tell you know what your talking about...)
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and ok with you sick bastards?
Who is a sick bastard?
Clearly you & anyone else who agrees with these most disgusting methods and truly "immoral acts"
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They're all the same crowd, its evil, and i guarantee they don't have our best interest as satanist leaders in our civil peaceful society.
What is wrong with satanism?
Please Read the link above...nvm here it is again, since you probably missed it the first time
http://ordinaryevil.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/cult-leader-convicted-for-satanic-ritual-abuse-involving-children/
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To refuse the fact of what our leaders are doing is wrong, you deserve to be the burning corpse for their cremation of care. Cause its ok right? yay human sacrifice!
Which of our leaders burns corpses?
Again, please try and keep up, Cremation of care & at least the last 4 presidents. Also the totem Owl deity represents Moloch from the old testament in the bible. Multiple sacrifices were made to him by passing your children through the fire.
Ever seen "Year One"? Jack Black and Michael Cera? They poke a good bit of fun at ol Moloch and human sacrifices, its still the same today, that same evil is present and prevalent in the highest orders of our government. Not cool
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Pris#1, that is interesting information on the religions of our leaders. It appears that if you want to be elected with greater frequency, be a Protestant, Catholic or Unspecified/Other. Worshiping other gods hurt your chances.
most of the nation is christian and as we can see most want to believe that
this is a christian nation, founded on christianity, something that's
obvious untrue and easy to prove
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, homosexuality
Yes, I think a homosexual person would make a great leader. Barney Frank is one prominent example.
If he ran for president, I would vote for him.
I wouldnt vote for him based on his sexual preferences or his religious
beliefs, it's about his political views that he wouldnt get my vote, a
president or other elected official can stick sausages in his butt for all
I care unless he's doing it on TV in which case I at least want to catch it
on youtube. Barney Frank has shown gross incompetence in regard to his
position as a member of the financial/banking subcommittees, one of his few
policies I agree with is his stance on marijuana legalization
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To refuse the fact of what our leaders are doing is wrong, you deserve to be the burning corpse for their cremation of care. Cause its ok right? yay human sacrifice!
Which of our leaders burns corpses?
christians are all about sacrifices, it used to be a burnt offering, god
even tested the faith of abraham by telling him to sacrifice his own son,
Jephthah gave his daughter in a human sacrifice to god in order to win a
battle against the ammonites so where christians come to the conclusion
that human sacrifice is some sort of devil or false god worship is beyond me
Judges, Leviticus, Joshua, Kings, Ezekiel... all discuss sacrificing humans
to god. as for the pedphelia, Elisha and Jesus both are not only pedophiles
but also homosexual, and this by the words contained in the bible
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16357927 - 06/09/12 10:12 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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The word here translated literally as 'seed' very often means offspring. The forms containing mlk have been left untranslated. The reader may substitute either "to Moloch" or "as a molk".
The laws given to Moses by God expressly forbade the Israelites to do what was done in Egypt or in Canaan.
Leviticus 18:21:
‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.
Leviticus 20:2-5:
Again, you shall say to the Sons of Israel: Whoever he be of the Sons of Israel or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that gives any of his seed l'Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man and will cut him off from among his people; because he has given of his seed l'Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from that man, when he gives of his seed l'Molech, and do not kill him, then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go astray after him, whoring l'Molech from among the people.
2 Kings 23:10 (on King Josiah's reform):
And he defiled the Tophet, which is in the valley of Ben-hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter pass through the fire l'Molech.
Jeremiah 32:35:
And they built the high places of the Ba‘al, which are in the valley of Ben-hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire l'Molech; which I did not command them, nor did it come into my mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Making a burnt offering of food or grain or even an animal, but never a human. And here are specific passages commanding man to not do as our leaders are imitating. Nice spin though pris.
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jaybird13 said:
I believe there is a ruling elite and it is corporations.
How would you define "ruling elite"? It is definitely true that the world is not run by homeless people or the middle class. It never has been, never will be...
yea i think the question has an obvious answer of yes.
only the elite can lead, the meek follow.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Hologram]
#16358047 - 06/09/12 10:31 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Hologram said:
yea i think the question has an obvious answer of yes.
only the elite can lead, the meek follow.
I think we can agree on this point.
Yes, there is a ruling elite. They make lots of money and control lots of stuff. But not usually evil, sinister stuff. But they are in the business of making profit, so they often screw little guys. It sucks, but its no conspiracy. Just the way things work.
Every corporation has a ruling elite - a few bosses that run everything and get paid more than everyone else. Their job is to get the underlings to work as much as possible for as little money as possible.
Governments are the same. No big deal really.
When people start to talk about freemasons and the illuminati ruling everything, I become skeptical. The real ruling elite wouldn't tolerate their toes being stepped on by these guys.
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I think we can agree on this point.
my shroomery experience has reached a milestone
Also, lol @ "shroomery" being corrected by our spell check
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Hologram]
#16358109 - 06/09/12 10:45 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Of course not thats for fools right?
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: BoomerMan420]
#16358123 - 06/09/12 10:47 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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what do you mean by "that" ?
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16358134 - 06/09/12 10:48 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Making a burnt offering of food or grain or even an animal, but never a human. And here are specific passages commanding man to not do as our leaders are imitating. Nice spin though pris.
maybe you should actually read the bible then, seems that most christians do not, I dont profess to be a christian, that might be because I read the scriptures
Judges 11:29-40 At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.
So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter."
Exodus 13:2 the Lord said "Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me."
Joshua 7:15 The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel.
1 Kings 13:1-2 At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.
2 Kings 23:20-25 And He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: "You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant." There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah's reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since.
Ezekiel 21:33-37 As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
so yeah... let's play the scripture game because the bible backs my claims
that God himself demands burnt offerings of humans just as it is with the
laws of moses
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Hologram]
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: BoomerMan420]
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anyway, fuck yea 2pac
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con fused
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into my sub conscious
creating a nue ron jeremy
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