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I only use natural substances now....
    #16243959 - 05/17/12 07:57 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

I have given up alcohol and drugs, except for naturals (cactus, pot, shrooms) All those designers and synthetics were really wasting me.  But it's almost 4 weeks now since stopping.  It's back to cactus for me....:awesomenod:

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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16243966 - 05/17/12 08:03 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

I'm right there with you. I'm not much for synthetics; all organics for me.

I'd like to try ayahuasca some day...

God made weed, man made alcohol. Which would you trust more?


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: 46 and 2]
    #16243967 - 05/17/12 08:03 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

never tried cacti either though...


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: 46 and 2]
    #16243971 - 05/17/12 08:06 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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I'm right there with you. I'm not much for synthetics; all organics for me.

I'd like to try ayahuasca some day...

God made weed, man made alcohol. Which would you trust more?





So both of you would say no thanks if you were offered some great acid?


Mankind has nothing on nature when it comes to making toxic substances.


And man didn't invent alcohol.  that's nature or god or whatever you want to call it right there


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Beefy1]
    #16243972 - 05/17/12 08:09 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

You should snort lines of asbestos powder...that's natural, too


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Enlil]
    #16243976 - 05/17/12 08:11 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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You should snort lines of asbestos powder...that's natural, too



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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16243986 - 05/17/12 08:20 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Never tried acid. Not really interested if it came from a shady source. If it came from an actual pharmacy, then bottoms up.

I only say that because my SO has cancer, and I read that LSD therapeutically helps patients overcome their fear of death. The dose wouldn't be so much for me as it would be for her, but since she doesn't like to do anything without me, (weed & shrooms) I'm pretty sure I would be drawn into trying it out.

Beefy - I guess I should have thought about that a little bit more. Sugars naturally ferment; however, the alcohol content isn't good for you if you go all out on it. Alcohol can kill. I have a beer once in a while or a shot, but I don't go out and get slam hammered drunk like I used to. Man those were some crazy times...


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16243987 - 05/17/12 08:21 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

So does this mean you only use plants that are grown in natural ways or do you shove them under some HID lights and pump them full of synthetic nutrients. Just wondering because if you are still smoking weed that has theses excess chemicals in it that are not meant for consumption then I don't think its anymore natural than a 2C-? pill.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Slayer1024]
    #16244007 - 05/17/12 08:32 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Try nux vomica-contains natural indoles,like strychnine. It was once use in medince and still sold in some herbal shops.Happy convulsions bro!


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes] * 3
    #16244024 - 05/17/12 08:43 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Plants capture water, carbon dioxide we breathed out and sunlight and converts it to glucose. A yeast ferments this glucose to yield some water and CO2 back and forms alcohol...

And this is unnatural?

Plutonium is natural too, if you breathe it in one gram will give a million people lung cancer.

The problem isnt synthetics, its abuse. If the average member takes 15mg 2C-E once every two months he's typically a lot better off than when he smokes 1/8oz of strong organic weed a day.

Abuse is the problem, too much, too often.

The smoke of a gram of weed contains more carcinogens than a gram of 2C-E.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #16244032 - 05/17/12 08:46 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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The smoke of a gram of weed contains more carcinogens than a gram of 2C-E.



And if cancer were the only health risk, that would be an important fact.


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Fuck the Amish

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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Enlil]
    #16244038 - 05/17/12 08:47 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Exactly what health risks are associated with proper use of 2C-E?

People have been complaining about your avatar brah, they say it needs more boobs.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16244043 - 05/17/12 08:49 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

OP, have you tried Datura?

It's ALL natural and ALL fun.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #16244047 - 05/17/12 08:50 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Exactly what health risks are associated with proper use of 2C-E?



"proper?"

Oh...you mean that if I follow the instructions on the label?

Oh wait..you can't mean that...there are no instructions on the label..

Or maybe if I follow the doctor's recommendations?  Oh wait...no...not that either...

Here is a health risk from 2C-E

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/03/2c-e_overdose_blaine_one_dead_drug.php

The boobs weren't visible in the original pic...sorry..I'll try to find something appropriate.


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Fuck the Amish

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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: amontripper]
    #16244051 - 05/17/12 08:51 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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OP, have you tried Datura?

It's ALL natural and ALL fun.





The jokes mostly on you though. Spectres have a truly wicked sense of humor.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Wiccan_Seeker] * 1
    #16244059 - 05/17/12 08:57 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

I never stated that synthetics are bad or somehow more harmful etc.  I did it because I become way to fond of some of the synthetic chemicals.  I LIKE 2C-E, etc.  I've just decided to stick with weed and mescaline.  they are the two I like most anyway.  And I feel about 200000 times better after quitting drinking.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16244075 - 05/17/12 09:07 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

I'm with you for the most part, although I will never forget my love LSD


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #16244103 - 05/17/12 09:27 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Alcohol is pretty much very natural. Fermented fruit you know. A product of yeast having the munchies. :smile: It's not a very friendly drug though that's for sure, so I can see why you don't like it. Cyanide is also natural occuring. ;-) So point is, well, natural doesn't necessarily mean good. But at least you know what you get. A cub is usually a cub and weed is usually weed and so on.

I don't know what your weed consumption is like, but if you're a regular toker you should try to go without for a month or so. It's actually pretty nice. Clears your head up a bit. If you don't need weed for medicinal purposes I'd say moderate use is the most enjoyable.


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Enlil]
    #16244111 - 05/17/12 09:33 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Exactly what health risks are associated with proper use of 2C-E?



"proper?"

Oh...you mean that if I follow the instructions on the label?

Oh wait..you can't mean that...there are no instructions on the label..

Or maybe if I follow the doctor's recommendations?  Oh wait...no...not that either...

Here is a health risk from 2C-E

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/03/2c-e_overdose_blaine_one_dead_drug.php

The boobs weren't visible in the original pic...sorry..I'll try to find something appropriate.




Wasn't that the mix up where they took bromo-dragonfly thinking it was 2c-e?


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Re: I only use natural substances now.... [Re: Solemente]
    #16244117 - 05/17/12 09:38 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Quote:

Enlil said:
Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Exactly what health risks are associated with proper use of 2C-E?



"proper?"

Oh...you mean that if I follow the instructions on the label?

Oh wait..you can't mean that...there are no instructions on the label..

Or maybe if I follow the doctor's recommendations?  Oh wait...no...not that either...

Here is a health risk from 2C-E

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/03/2c-e_overdose_blaine_one_dead_drug.php

The boobs weren't visible in the original pic...sorry..I'll try to find something appropriate.




Wasn't that the mix up where they took bromo-dragonfly thinking it was 2c-e?





I think that's the one where they snorted massive amounts.


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