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LiquidSmock said:
You know what also inceases the surface area of food?

Chewing it.  You may want to consider taking a physiology class, as I've suggested numerous times but you clearly refuse to educate yourself on basic health sciences.

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"There is no convincing scientific evidence that extracted juices are healthier than whole foods. Juice extractors remove the fiber-containing pulp from the fruits and vegetables, which results in less fiber intake."

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-American Cancer Society

Oh no! He's using "scientific evidence" again!  How dare he!

Speaking of Gerson and poison, his original therapy included liver injections of Laetrile.

You should go read about Laetrile, and how it relates to cyanide.

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It's increases not inceases and this is your scientific evidence, not mine, keep in mind your quoting a group I have very little faith in and absolutely no use for what so ever. This is from a group whose entire existence is completely dependent upon people having cancer!!! Sure, let's put ourselves out of business. HA! And if you honestly believe that there is no difference in the amount of nutrients that reach the blood then you're tipping your hand at how little you know. Physiology blah blah blah blah! You and your classes! You're insulting and so condescending to everyone here it's crazy and it makes it easier for me to act this way towards you. And I've already said that I smoothie, didn't I? As a matter of fact I did, which goes to show you the level you're at as far as reading comprehension goes. Smoothies include the pulp of the fruits and vegetables. I also said I drink modified smoothies meaning I reduce the smoothie by mixing it with juices. I also said I enjoy eating solid food too, did I or did I not? I did and I chew well. It's interesting that you didn't dismiss anything else I had to say, thank you. Well if all I have to worry about is that you didn't agree with me that the surface area of the food I drink is greater then the food you eat then I'm a winner because you're wrong! Talk about complete absorption of nutrients, that shroomie nailed it when he said drink your meals and profit. Do you know the amount of nutrients that can be found in a stool? Especially in individuals with dysbiosis, which is an extremely common problem considering main stream clowns write scripts for antibiotics left and right, it's little wonder we have antibiotic resistant organisms out there now because clowns write prescriptions for antibiotics for everything under the sun.

That pharmacist friend of mine said a nellie pot, a stinking nellie pot that my grandmother used to use is so effective at relieving common allergy symptoms it's beyond the pale. This is one of the things I love about this hobby, you know, mushroom cultivation because these decomposers are more a problem then clowns will admit to, regardless of the evidence. I often wonder what motivates a clown to say half the things they do. When they deny that mold is a real problem are they doing it on behalf of real science backed evidence or are they doing it on behalf of insurance companies that hate the idea of coming up with coin for law suits and the deep expense of renovations and remediation? I became enamored with fungi years ago when I was exposed to a pathogenic species of a thermotolerant strain of mucor. Man, talk about an experience and it caught up with me over a decade later! after clowns told me there was nothing to worry about! Thank god for real healers is all I have to say! One Clown was treating me for bacterial cellulitis which was feeding the fungal cellulitis I actually had with powerful antibiotics for over a month! I knew within a week of the treatment that it may be something else and I know you think I'm speculating here but when you discover citations that I have and look into them, you'll discover that fungi can be deadly, I've already pointed out that allergies played a role in our friends Lupus! while some clown is looking for 40 genes! A clown named Ustet or some shit. She wears the brightest makeup of them all because she's a guru clown. And this is just a fraction of my real story. If I hadn't found a quack I'd be well on my way to dieing. A quack rescued me from the clowns, scary clowns, Steven King type clowns! with their medications and their pseudo crap!

One study from the Mayo clinic was a classic! And it's completely amazing that the results of that study weren't heeded because if I remember correctly it occurred in 1998 but don't quote me superstar. Over 90% of the people in the study tested positive for mold allergie. ONLY! while being treated with antibiotics for YEARS!!! For their chronic sinus infections! Clowns are awesome with their pale faces and colored lip gloss! This is why I'm getting certified in indoor air quality because I can confidently walk into someones building right now and say mold allergies may be at play here. Do clowns realize how bad they're wrecking people's lives? People go to clowns and are placed on an antibiotic and not once has clown EVER said "Look dude, after the prescription is over I want you to follow a strict protocol of probiotics for at least one month afterwords, minimum, OK? Because the quacks were right when they warned us almost three decades ago that pathogens can begin to dominate the colon if we don't do this." and then say "Ohh, by the way, I'm really sorry for killing your mother."

You think I'm kidding when I say that don't you? Well when someones digestive tract is filled with pathogens they tend to live like that for the rest of their lives and return to a clown with all kinds of problems later. I'm throwing this out there as absurdly as possible to drive home a point that what I'm passing onto you is significant. It's something you need to wrap that head of yours around now while you're capable of thinking outside that box that the clowns live in. Become a real healer dude, think critically. You know you've found a good doctor when they generate a four page analysis of your stool. I know you think this is a joke, well if this is really the case the joke is going to be on your patients. Poor bastards, you'll be all "how ya doin' today!?!" as you walk into the room in your pale face and smiley colored lips. If you minister to children you can let them squeeze your nose and go "honk honk!" and wink at their mom!

And as far as laetrile goes I think I've said this for like the thousandths time now that everything I know regarding the Gerson therapy is based on listening to conversations between brilliant men and women. And I noticed you used the term "original" therapy because I don't recall them discussing laetrile at all but I do remember that some enzyme was involved in the process in other conversations. Like I've already said, I've ordered Gersons manuscript called 50 cases on Saturday, let me read the book and look into this particular enzyme. The more I think about it the more I remember they said the cyanide wasn't free form and the enzyme needed was unique to cancer itself. They also were able to debunk the fact that other enzymes in the body, including the digestive tract were capable of breaking the bonds but you can't expect me to remember these types of details when I have something called a life to live, you know? Let me read the book and not rely on you telling me what to think. Trying to search radio archives could be a complete waste of time and not something I'm willing to do since I could care less because I've already said I'll be using hydrogen peroxide, ozone and vitamin c in any combination my healer suggests I use if I faced this issue which I seriously doubt I ever will. I stand a greater chance of dieing by skydiving then I do developing cancer. And I've already told you that he has said that there are very specific times when low dose chemo has advantages but I'd only do it if he said I have to do it. If a clown told me to do it I'd say you take it first! and then I'll think about it.

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passifloracaerulea said:
i asked if anyone has tried the gerson therapy, not for information debunking it. i can get that anywhere. i was looking for people who know of people who tried it or tried it themselves(whether their experiance be positive or negative). as far as i can tell, liquid smock has not tried it nor does he know anyone who has.

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passifloracaerulea said:
i asked if anyone has tried the gerson therapy, not for information debunking it. i can get that anywhere. i was looking for people who know of people who tried it or tried it themselves(whether their experiance be positive or negative). as far as i can tell, liquid smock has not tried it nor does he know anyone who has.

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Thats not what you asked,


"anybody know this therapy firsthand or have absolute proof of it as quackery?"

Why would liquidsmock try something he knows is a waste of time and completely useless?

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passifloracaerulea said:
i asked if anyone has tried the gerson therapy, not for information debunking it. i can get that anywhere. i was looking for people who know of people who tried it or tried it themselves(whether their experiance be positive or negative). as far as i can tell, liquid smock has not tried it nor does he know anyone who has.

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Thats not what you asked,


"anybody know this therapy firsthand or have absolute proof of it as quackery?"

Why would liquidsmock try something he knows is a waste of time and completely useless?

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firsthand and absolute are the key words there.

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passifloracaerulea said:
i love shitakes and maitakes, but i haven't been cooking so that kind of leaves them out for now. i've thought about taking the paul stamets products, but they're pretty expensive.

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Does it say somewhere that they have to be cooked to be effective? To my understanding the most common ways were eating encapsuled dried shitake or shitake mushroom extract Not saying that eating raw fruit is not going to work (cause I don't honestly know) but I wouldn't wager my life on that soley. But I'm not here to argue with ya or tell you what your doing won't work just trying to help.

Keep a positive attitude and never give up

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LiquidSmock said:
So there's a good chance you don't even have cancer...

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