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Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death
#16241217 - 05/16/12 06:46 PM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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http://tuscaloosa.myfoxal.com/news/news/110797-murder-charges-fentanyl-patch-overdose
TUSCALOOSA, AL (WBRC)- The Tuscaloosa County Sheriff's Department says three people have been charged with murder in connection with the death of a woman who died after overdosing on Fentanyl patches.
The Sheriff's department, in a statement to FOX6 News Friday afternoon, said a Grand Jury today returned murder indictments against Shanna Valentine, Casey Swindle, and Sharron Valentine in connection with the 2011 death of Rikki Hayes, 44, of McCalla.
On Sept. 10, 2011, Tuscaloosa County Sheriff's deputies and homicide investigators responded to the 20900 block of Charles Cir. in McCalla, where they found Hayes deceased. Investigators said Hayes was found by her son lying on the kitchen floor not breathing.
The sheriff's department said Hayes' autopsy report stated the cause of death was Multiple Drug Toxicity due to toxic levels of Fentanyl in her body.
The death investigation revealed Shanna Marie Valentine and Casey Wilson Swindle gave Rikki Hayes the Fentanyl patches that caused her death. Valentine had obtained the patches from Sharon Riley Valentine.
Investigators said Rikki Hayes was then shown how to cut the patch open and eat the gel inside it. Swindle and Shanna Valentine then left the scene for about 20 minutes, and when they returned, Hayes was dead.
The sheriff's department said the case was presented to the Grand Jury last week. Friday, the Grand Jury returned three indictments for murder for Shanna Valentine, Casey Swindle and Sharron Valentine, the provider of the patches. All three were arrested Friday and booked into the Tuscaloosa County Jail on $100,000 bond.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16242588 - 05/16/12 11:05 PM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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wow those cities are where im usually at
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: Tripbin]
#16243474 - 05/17/12 02:45 AM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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Fentynl is fucking potent. It's measured in micrograms. You put the patch on yer fucking skin. Shit kills.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: Inspiration]
#16243744 - 05/17/12 05:13 AM (1 year, 8 days ago) |
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Why do people abuse Fentanyl? Even hardcore heroin addicts have problems with that stuff, let alone how it isn't very pleasurable regarding the reports i've read. Those woman shouldn't be arrested for murder... It's up to us as humans to educate ourselves and make wise decisions especially ones regarding our own health and well-being. Eating a fucking Fentanyl patch I mean c'mon.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: At My Peak]
#16244814 - 05/17/12 01:40 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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C'mon! don't give them murder charges. at some point people just have to take responsibility for their actions. ever heard of survival of the fittest?
This is like those people who eat psychedelics and plan on eating a bunch of xanax when (not if) they have a bad trip.
Don't get me wrong, i like to have some on hand just in case, but if you're depressed or suicidal, it's probably not a good time to indulge.. just be smart and make good (informed) decisions.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: At My Peak]
#16245469 - 05/17/12 04:17 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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At My Peak said: Why do people abuse Fentanyl? Even hardcore heroin addicts have problems with that stuff, let alone how it isn't very pleasurable regarding the reports i've read. Those woman shouldn't be arrested for murder... It's up to us as humans to educate ourselves and make wise decisions especially ones regarding our own health and well-being. Eating a fucking Fentanyl patch I mean c'mon.
Because it feels amazing just like heroin. It's a strong opiate so it's just as addicting and equally hard to quit as morphine oxycodone heroin hydromorphone oxymorphone etc.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16246140 - 05/17/12 06:36 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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I cut my finger off and they shot me up with fentanyl (a couple times) Shit works
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16247303 - 05/17/12 10:49 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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withoutawire said: Because it feels amazing just like heroin. It's a strong opiate so it's just as addicting and equally hard to quit as morphine oxycodone heroin hydromorphone oxymorphone etc.
Yes I understand, it's technically an opioid not an opiate but I'm saying that Fentanyl is tens if not hundreds times stronger than heroin, not only that but since it's so strong usually only heroin addicts with no other choice abuse it and it is not very recreational because it's so strong. This lady was obviously a moron eating a patch that was probably time released. Just putting it on her skin as it should've been taken would have at least made her extremely sick probably to the point of hospitalization.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: At My Peak]
#16247638 - 05/17/12 11:58 PM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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withoutawire said: Because it feels amazing just like heroin. It's a strong opiate so it's just as addicting and equally hard to quit as morphine oxycodone heroin hydromorphone oxymorphone etc.
Yes I understand, it's technically an opioid not an opiate but I'm saying that Fentanyl is tens if not hundreds times stronger than heroin, not only that but since it's so strong usually only heroin addicts with no other choice abuse it and it is not very recreational because it's so strong. This lady was obviously a moron eating a patch that was probably time released. Just putting it on her skin as it should've been taken would have at least made her extremely sick probably to the point of hospitalization.
You obviously have never done ron or fentynal patches Shit they even got fentynal lolipops (though those are few and far between)
Fentynal is used all the time, my fiance had fentynal in her epidural during labor. Also it's not hundreds of times stonger than herion man, probably right around a hundred times stronger
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: At My Peak]
#16247804 - 05/18/12 12:36 AM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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withoutawire said: Because it feels amazing just like heroin. It's a strong opiate so it's just as addicting and equally hard to quit as morphine oxycodone heroin hydromorphone oxymorphone etc.
Yes I understand, it's technically an opioid not an opiate but I'm saying that Fentanyl is tens if not hundreds times stronger than heroin, not only that but since it's so strong usually only heroin addicts with no other choice abuse it and it is not very recreational because it's so strong. This lady was obviously a moron eating a patch that was probably time released. Just putting it on her skin as it should've been taken would have at least made her extremely sick probably to the point of hospitalization.
Fentanyl is not stronger than heroin. A lot of people would say it's weaker. Fentanyl is more potent, which means it requires less weight of drugs to achieve the same effects as say heroin. How high you get has nothing to do with how potent an opiate is. It's just how you dose. The effects are much less euphoric than heroin and only last for 30-45 minutes.
she's not a moron she's a drug addict. Intelligence has nothing to do with addiction. In fact recent studies show drug addicts are smarter than the average population.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16247853 - 05/18/12 12:48 AM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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Can you show a link proving that drug addicts are smarter than non-drug addicts, please.
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The "Just Say No" generation was often told by parents and teachers that intelligent people didn't use drugs. Turns out, the adults may have been wrong.
A new British study finds children with high IQs are more likely to use drugs as adults than people who score low on IQ tests as children. The data come from the 1970 British Cohort Study, which has been following thousands of people over decades. The kids' IQs were tested at the ages of 5, 10 and 16. The study also asked about drug use and looked at education and other socioeconomic factors. Then when participants turned 30, they were asked whether they had used drugs such as marijuana, cocaine and heroin in the past year.
Researchers discovered men with high childhood IQs were up to two times more likely to use illegal drugs than their lower-scoring counterparts. Girls with high IQs were up to three times more likely to use drugs as adults. A high IQ is defined as a score between 107 and 158. An average IQ is 100. The study appears in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.
The lead researcher says he isn't surprised by the findings. "Previous research found for the most part people with high IQs lead a healthy life, but that they are more likely to drink to excess as adults," says James White a psychologist at Cardiff University in the United Kingdom.
It's not clear why people with high childhood IQs are more likely to use illegal drugs. "We suspect they may be more open to new experiences and are more sensation seeking," says White. In the paper, White and his co-author also mention other studies that find high IQ kids may use drugs because they are bored or to cope with being different.
That seems to ring true for one of my childhood classmates. Tracey Helton Mitchell was one of the smartest kids in my middle school. But, by the time she was in her early 20's, Tracey was a heroin addict. I found out while flipping channels one sleepless night and stumbled upon the documentary "Black Tar Heroin."
"I was confident in my abilities but there was a dissonance," says Tracey, with whom I recently reconnected. "No matter what I did, what I said, where I went, I was never comfortable with the shell I carried called myself."
I don't feel like tracking down the study. The first thing I found on google was this showing drug users are smarter than non-users. If you take 10 minutes to search I'm sure you can find it. I read it in the news paper in the last six months.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16248167 - 05/18/12 02:07 AM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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Sorry for my ignorance here, I haven't done too many opiates/opioids (codeine, tramadol, hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine) so I can't actually put any first hand input about Fentanyl or the usage of it. I was just expressing what I knew through research and stories I've heard about it, but at least I've learned something here. That's what these sites are for I suppose. I don't usually discuss things I don't know very much about (especially no first hand knowledge) but every time I hear a story or read a report involving Fentanyl it always end up horribly. (also someone I knew took it and said it was terrible, but everyone has different preferences I suppose) I'm not saying that drug addicts aren't intelligent, I was psychologically addicted to Methylphenidate at one point and decided to quit for my health, which mustered up a lot more willpower to do than ceasing any other substance I've done. I would consider myself and a fraction of most psychoactive substance users to be very analytical and intelligent beyond comprehense to the majority of the human population. This obviously wasn't one of the intelligent ones.
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16249058 - 05/18/12 09:55 AM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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At My Peak said: Why do people abuse Fentanyl? Even hardcore heroin addicts have problems with that stuff, let alone how it isn't very pleasurable regarding the reports i've read. Those woman shouldn't be arrested for murder... It's up to us as humans to educate ourselves and make wise decisions especially ones regarding our own health and well-being. Eating a fucking Fentanyl patch I mean c'mon.
Because it feels amazing just like heroin. It's a strong opiate so it's just as addicting and equally hard to quit as morphine oxycodone heroin hydromorphone oxymorphone etc.
Fentanyl is one of the worst opiates IMO. It isn't euphoric at all. I'd rather eat a fuckton of hydrocodone since that's acctually a euphoric drug. I'd probably have to eat a half gram of pure hydrocodone right now though .
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: withoutawire]
#16253951 - 05/19/12 02:14 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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Interesting. I kinda don't believe it, though, because wouldn't it make sense that less intelligent people would more likely to abuse drugs because they most likely aren't as "successful" in life than intelligent people?
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Interesting. I kinda don't believe it, though, because wouldn't it make sense that less intelligent people would more likely to abuse drugs because they most likely aren't as "successful" in life than intelligent people?
What correlation does drug abuse and ones ability to be successful have? I don't know to many people that abuse drugs because they didn't become successful, most do them because they like the feeling the drugs give. Not to many times do you see someone say "Shit man I am going to be a piss-on for life so might as well take these drugs."
Going further, wouldn't it make more sense for intelligent people to use drugs to cope with society, as they are enlightened to how fucked it is?
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Re: Murder Charges Resulting in Fentanyl Death [Re: The Influence]
#16259906 - 05/20/12 10:18 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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I can see people who are successful at life living in the "high" of accomplishing something, so they have no need for drugs.
On the other hand, some one who isn't successful might be disappointed in their lives since they don't have as many accomplishment, hence they turn to drugs to make their life more exciting.
Idk , it makes sense to me.
But I do see your point about how successful people would use drugs to balance the pressures of society. But wouldn't the same be said for non-successful people trying to pay their bills, etc.?
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