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OfflineMacMerdin
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Possible Panaeolus cinctulus
    #16220891 - 05/12/12 07:57 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Need help with identification.



Habitat: Horse Dung - Found growing straight out of mound of dumped horse dung.





Gills: Dark brown to blackish.

Stem: darkish grey to brownish?, slightly fragile, mycelium growth at base when picked.  Bruising blackish.





Cap: Tan, brown, reddish brown.

Spore print color: Jet Black.





Bruising: Bruising on stems and caps.



Location: North East region of the USA.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: MacMerdin]
    #16220913 - 05/12/12 08:02 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

At least some of those are Panaeolus papilionaceus. Some could be P. cinctulus.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #16220927 - 05/12/12 08:07 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

1-2 Panaeolus papilionaceus
3-4 Panaeolus semiovatus


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: vjp]
    #16220948 - 05/12/12 08:10 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

What do you call the vein like structures on the pileus of the P. semiovatus?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16220968 - 05/12/12 08:14 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

when they are pronounced like these - http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/217479?obs=94214&q=EU2F - i call it corrugated. Im not sure what you would call those though.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: vjp]
    #16220984 - 05/12/12 08:17 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Thanks. Could they just be wrinkles?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16220997 - 05/12/12 08:21 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Those are not what i would call veins - closer to "matted fibrous"


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: vjp]
    #16221017 - 05/12/12 08:24 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Those are not what i would call veins - closer to "matted fibrous"


Do all paneaolus have this feature?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: vjp]
    #16221018 - 05/12/12 08:25 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

So no on ingestion?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: MacMerdin]
    #16221033 - 05/12/12 08:27 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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So no on ingestion?


correct, they are not toxic but they don't taste good and they are active.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #16221049 - 05/12/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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MacMerdin said:
So no on ingestion?


correct, they are not toxic but they don't taste good and they are active.



Are active?  Or not?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: MacMerdin]
    #16221051 - 05/12/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Not. He mis- typed.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221077 - 05/12/12 08:35 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Not. He mis- typed.



What about the ones with the rings like cints have?  Or do the others have the rings too?  I can post pictures of the ringed ones.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: MacMerdin]
    #16221086 - 05/12/12 08:39 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

None of the ones you posted are active, and P. cinctulus does not feature a ring or ring zone.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221092 - 05/12/12 08:41 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Ok, so can we call the pattern on the Panaeolus cap reticulation?


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221102 - 05/12/12 08:44 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

the mushrooms in pic 1 are not Pan paps.

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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221122 - 05/12/12 08:48 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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and P. cinctulus does not feature a ring or ring zone.




Not to be argumentative but most of the pictures I have seen of them do?

http://www.shroomery.org/9608/Subbedhunter420s-Guide-to-Hunting-and-Identifying-Panaeolus-subbalteatus-P-cinctulus


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: MacMerdin]
    #16221129 - 05/12/12 08:49 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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MacMerdin said:
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maynardjameskeenan said:
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MacMerdin said:
So no on ingestion?


correct, they are not toxic but they don't taste good and they are active.



Are active?  Or not?


O sorry inactive, is what I meant to say.


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221136 - 05/12/12 08:51 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Ok, so can we call the pattern on the Panaeolus cap reticulation?


Thanks for the info. :thumbup:
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O you were asking? Fuck if I know :shrug:


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Re: Possible Panaeolus cinctulus [Re: Gravija]
    #16221144 - 05/12/12 08:52 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

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Ok, so can we call the pattern on the Panaeolus cap reticulation?



i meant matted fibrillose and i wouldn't call those reticulate


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