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trulyknotmadly
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The dry bags have moved to a SG....pics. Advice?
#16028970 - 04/01/12 02:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I got a few premade bags in the mail, and they seem rather dry. Should I wait it out a few days or how could I even add some moisture?
Edited by trulyknotmadly (05/13/12 02:02 AM)
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Bags of? grain or ....?
They are probably fine. A bit on the dry side is better than wet. IMO
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Assuming the 'bags' actually have something in them, don't second guess the vendor. Substrate bags are supposed to appear dry. If they appear wet, it means they're too wet. RR
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It's a mixture of what looks like vermiculite and rye grain.
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So far, the dry bags look best, actually. They have that pretty, fibery look.

And here's the bag that is a little wet, but it's almost ready for the shotgun terrarium, I believe.

Makes. Me. Happy.  
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Now, I hope I get someone to be kind enough to answer. 
The bottom of the two pictures, the bag is purely grain. It looks nice, but it's a little more moist than I think it should be. However, there is nothing else in it but grain.
Do I leave it to try to fruit in the bag itself, or do I set it up for the shotgun terrarium? I'm debating...what I'm reading is people just let them fruit in the bag, but I thought the bag was pretty much like making a cake in a jar. Growth in the three small bags (which have vermiculite mixed in them) is towards the front where there were inoculated. But the fourth bag is twice the size and from a different vendor - all grain, no moisture-retaining mixes in it (however, like I said, more moist than it probably ought to be).
Help?
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How about spawning that grain bag to a mono?
The others you can fruit in the bag or move them to a SGFC when it starts to pin. If you fruit in the bag you'll want to get some FAE going once pins start. You can do it by cutting a few slits in the bag or just by opening the top a few time a day.
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So, I dunked the bag for about four hours. I was nervous about it, because this first bag was the overly wet one. I've got 1 pin I see strugglging to become a mushroom in one of the three drier bags. I think maybe this weekend I'll do a casing, I'm not sure yet. Here's yesterday's pics.






These pics are from this morning.


I'm REALLY nervous about whether or not my shotgun holes are too big. I don't want it to get any contams at this stage. I'm SO CLOSE to I would HATE to lose it now...
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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The holes look perfect, from what I can see. The accepted knowledge around here now is that a true "casing" (non-nutritious top layer) is not needed for cubs. You can fruit the bag in your SGFC, or use it to colonize some bulk substrate (like damon50/50 tek) and use it in a monotub. Check out Doc T's and other's monotub teks. Conscious seems to be that monotubs are the way to go. However, if you are worried about introducing cantams at this late stage, maybe just fruit them as is.
Good luck, and keep us updated.
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Your hands look pretty dude like, ma'am.
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Quote:
SoreSpore said: Your hands look pretty dude like, ma'am.
Never been a petite, sylph-like gal. Popped the stupid damn acrylic nails off my fingers (they were painted green last time I posted pics) because it's hard to do art and 'dirty' stuff with them. Ever try to change a car battery with long nails?
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TheBot0nist said: The holes look perfect, from what I can see. .... However, if you are worried about introducing cantams at this late stage, maybe just fruit them as is.
Good luck, and keep us updated.
The holes were drilled with something like n/16ths (I dunno, the husband said it was close enough to a quarter inch). I guess I'm paranoid that it's too dry, because you always think of fungus as needing really, really high moisture. Like, some of the tubs I see in the pics here have condensation on the walls, so I think, "Gee, should I spray them down with water just to make sure there's enough humidity?" What weirds me out is as you can see, the pinning happened on the sides of the bag, not exactly the substrate itself and in the bags which are mixed with verm (the dry ones), it is REALLY hard to see inside them. They were shot up AFTER this particular bag, but this bag is straight rye grain. So I think maybe this weekend I'll add them - if this guy gets contams before Saturday, then I'll make some adjustments. Like polyfill in the holes and maybe go ahead and case the other cakes in verm. But really, I would just like to see them grow into something beautiful.  
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You want to dunk it longer than 4 hours. Try about 20 hours.
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So again, it went green. I had big hopes for this one.

You can't see it, but really, by the time I got home, there was greenness.
So after *24* hours of dunking, I rolled a different bag in verm and we'll see what happens.


It disturbingly reminded me of shake-n-bake....
So remember, these are like first attempts - we shall see what happens.
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Three 'dry' bags I'm playing with. Bag 2 looks like this...I just kind of cut it open and set it in the terrarium. I figure if it seems too dry, I'll mist it. Or pull the little guys off and dunk it. But it was doing kinda good on it's own.

This is the first one that was rolled in verm. Doesn't look like much is shakin'. It got dunked for 24 hours and it looks pretty, but no idea what's kickin' underneath, 'cept this little guy sneakin' out.

Bag 3 completely stalled. I roughed it up some, so now I'll just hope it recovers.
Thoughts?
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