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#16187988 - 05/05/12 11:40 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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for a beginner what bike would you recommend someone to start off with? i bought a 250 ninja and learned to ride on my own pretty wrecklesly before i sold it .. my question is which one is harder to learn? choppers are much heavier so im wondering if i could handle such a beast if the opportunity arrises.
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 Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Kinko]
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I wouldn't recommend a chopper for anyone, let alone a beginner, now if you mean a cruiser, then something like a dyna class Harley is perfect for a beginner. Keep away from the rice burners, their fun, but your gonna get a Harley eventually, we all do....
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Cuttysvelt]
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suzuki boulevard. its like a harley cruiser except half price and it doesnt fall to pieces when you leave the dealers lot. Most importantly you wont be lumped into the group that refuses to even buy a pair of undies unless they say Harley Davidson.
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suzuki boulevard. its like a harley cruiser except half price and it doesnt fall to pieces when you leave the dealers lot. Most importantly you wont be lumped into the group that refuses to even buy a pair of undies unless they say Harley Davidson.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Cj-B]
#16188243 - 05/06/12 12:52 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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I'd rather a rice rocket than cruiser. Easier to control, to me and if you're riding and its cold, hunker down a bit lower and the engine will keep you warm..
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sry for derailing, but what movie is this from?
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sry for derailing, but what movie is this from?
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I'd rather a rice rocket than cruiser. Easier to control, to me and if you're riding and its cold, hunker down a bit lower and the engine will keep you warm..
You ride a rocket? sounds hot! may we see?
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I don't own it anymore. It was totalled. But it was a CBR250.
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smaller harley if you have a brain 
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http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/mc/motorcycles/imageimport/Suzuki-Boulevard-M109R-2.jpg
http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/mc/motorcycles/imageimport/Suzuki-Boulevard-M109R-1.jpg
Specifications for Suzuki Boulevard M109R:
Engine Size: 1800
Seat Height: 27.8 inches
Weight: 703 lbs
Tank Size: 5.2 gallons
Gears: 5
Final Drive: shaft
Induction: Fuel injection
Colors: Blue, White, Silver
MSRP: $12,999.00
I dont consider 1800cc to be a small bike by any means.
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these guys are fun
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suzuki boulevard. its like a harley cruiser except half price and it doesn't fall to pieces when you leave the dealers lot. Most importantly you wont be lumped into the group that refuses to even buy a pair of undies unless they say Harley Davidson.
The boulevard is a nice bike, cant go wrong, but you are dead wrong on Harley's. They are made just as well as any other bike. That myth comes from old bikes, and back then all bikes were like that, no matter who made em. Quality has gotten better across the board. Also, most "real" Harley guys hardly wear any Harley stuff. I own a Harley AND work at a Harley dealership and own two shirts. There's nothing like the ride, feel and sound of a HD!
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Kinko]
#16189583 - 05/06/12 11:05 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I would stick with a sportbike myself. Only drawback is insurance may be expensive,like for my bike,which is actually in the supersport class. Its a ZX6.
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yeah i was mostly just hating on Harleys to get a reaction out of some "Harley Davidson or Die!" nutcase. Im sure they are great bikes.
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get the best of bothworlds... get a streetfighter! Custom Fighters
buy a wreck
make it badasss
become hooligan
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191014 - 05/06/12 06:24 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191039 - 05/06/12 06:30 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Indica
Those are DOPE
I've never even heard of those before.
I was looking at R1 Raven's, but those look way cooler.
Mighty White- If i were to get a bike, it would be just like that. Good call.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Big Worm]
#16191051 - 05/06/12 06:34 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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its a weird little bike scene spreading from europe... gets big i. ghetto areas and attracts a lot of fuckwads and white trash but there are some fucking amazing streetfighters and you can literally spend days drooling over simple and cheap builds on that website. hard not to want one.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191065 - 05/06/12 06:36 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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i went way overboard and spent waaaay too much money on mine. poor money skills but i have a weapon of a fighter sitting back home thats fun on the weekends.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191076 - 05/06/12 06:40 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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What would be the best way of building one?
Start with buying a wrecked one of a model you would want to imitate with new parts?
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191079 - 05/06/12 06:41 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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i had fun with my lil cbr putput. Some asshole in a truck decided he wanted my parking spot, thought it was empty and then backed into it. Completely totalled my bike.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Big Worm]
#16191112 - 05/06/12 06:47 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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beauty of fighters is you do whatever you want and be as legal/illegal as you want or are willing.
if you buy a wreck and want to use it to commute make sure it can be re registered or isnt written off etc i dont know how it works outside of aus.
or you can just buy a sportsbike second hand and start stripping it down and making it mean... thats how i did mine... with a 2005 zx10r wish i used something cheaper like an early 90's zx9 or r1 or something $$$$$$
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191137 - 05/06/12 06:52 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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my build
started with
finished with
i got a lot of the tricky work done in a shop... i had no shed as i was apartment living so i cant really claim true fighterdom but its still a great bike to ride and ill bedoing more work sooooon.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191144 - 05/06/12 06:56 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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thats pretty sexy, theres nowhere to put your bitch though
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: thissongis]
#16191168 - 05/06/12 07:00 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I got a SEXY moped from '83
you should supercharge that bitch and fatwheel it.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191207 - 05/06/12 07:10 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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yea righ the wheel would weigh more than the bike 
but OP I would get a chink bike
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191552 - 05/06/12 08:32 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I would want to get like an R1,R6 or a CBR and customize it like that.
I honestly don't know anything about bikes, but those are some of the nicest models i've seen.
I just like the looks of the R1 Ravens, so anything that looks like that and that is what I would want.
What is the best company/model? or is it all personal preference?
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Big Worm]
#16191563 - 05/06/12 08:33 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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CBR's are hella nice, well built and pretty inexpensive. But alas, thats just from my experience.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Big Worm]
#16191577 - 05/06/12 08:37 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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same as anything i think personal preferance all bikes have their pros and cons. example 05 zx10r is more comfortable for me to ride than an 08 R1 its all About what you like and shouldnt let other people pursuade you too much. go with what you feel... ri's look nice stripped back especially the older ones. carby models look gnarly.... read that website... look at some builds and get some ideas... everyone starts somewhere.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16191578 - 05/06/12 08:38 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Just curious, Big worm, how tall are you?
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: thissongis]
#16191640 - 05/06/12 08:53 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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That looks like a Hayabusa or GSXR1000 engine. Sorta.
I love my Hayabusa. Not for fools or beginners though.
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thats pretty sexy, theres nowhere to put your bitch though
You'd be better off getting a girlfriend who rides her own. Mine rides a GSXR750. 
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: andymc]
#16191672 - 05/06/12 08:59 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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i am seriously playing with getting a busa next to fighter but i really dont think i can truat myself with one... like seriously im bad enough on the ninja.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
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i am seriously playing with getting a busa next to fighter but i really dont think i can truat myself with one... like seriously im bad enough on the ninja.
Yeah, it requires a certain amount of self-control.
I usually ignore car drivers who want to race or whatever (seriously, unless they're driving a Ferrari, it's a foregone conclusion). But one time this guy in a Porsche Carrera pulled up and started revving, and the road was clear, and the weather was fine, and I was just "in the mood". The light changed and we took off pretty fast, and I was surprised that he started pulling up past me, so I gave it real good twist and left him behind. When we got to the next red light he was giving me the   , so I didn't have the heart to tell him I never changed out of first gear
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: andymc]
#16191919 - 05/06/12 09:49 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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yeah its a good feeling when dudes in their v8s that have spent tens of thousand see you ride past on a literbike modded and realise you will eat them alive
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16192103 - 05/06/12 10:28 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I will never own a bike as much as I want to, had someone really close to me almost lose their life and it was enough for me to not want to deal with the chance of having an old lady run a red light and take me out.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: thissongis]
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I will never own a bike as much as I want to, had someone really close to me almost lose their life and it was enough for me to not want to deal with the chance of having an old lady run a red light and take me out.
There's no denying that bikes are more dangerous than cars. However, the "old lady" scenario can happen to anyone, anytime. Car drivers, pedestrians, etc. It happened to the parents of my friend, while driving in their car. Both dead.
Riding a bike is a tradeoff, for sure. More danger, more exposure to the elements, pollution, etc. Yet cheaper (purchase cost, fuel, insurance, taxes), less waiting around in traffic, more enjoyable.
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Just curious, Big worm, how tall are you?
I am about 6"1
Any information is helpful, because I will own a bike within the next year.
A lot of people I talk to who ride harley's, talk about a comfort factor, like having a bad back, so they can't ride sports bikes, but they can ride cruiser's.
Is it UNcomfortable to ride sports bikes? and are there certain things to look for when buying your first bike?
I really appreciate all the information, i have been fascinated about owning a bike.
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perfect for when the apocalypse hits and all the roads will be jammed packed with cars , with that thing baby you can fly thru all dat jizz.
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I will never own a bike as much as I want to, had someone really close to me almost lose their life and it was enough for me to not want to deal with the chance of having an old lady run a red light and take me out.
There's no denying that bikes are more dangerous than cars. However, the "old lady" scenario can happen to anyone, anytime. Car drivers, pedestrians, etc. It happened to the parents of my friend, while driving in their car. Both dead.
Riding a bike is a tradeoff, for sure. More danger, more exposure to the elements, pollution, etc. Yet cheaper (purchase cost, fuel, insurance, taxes), less waiting around in traffic, more enjoyable.
Indeed, but I just feel safer in a car.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16192856 - 05/07/12 01:19 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Streetfighter all the way. Its a mix of both pretty much. Raw looks of a custom Harley and speed and performance of a sporty. I have a custom Harley chopper and I would trade it anyday for a decent streetfight. Or Hayabusa.. omg. Lol.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Kinko]
#16192884 - 05/07/12 01:26 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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This post might be a bit drawn out, but I have a few things to say:
Ive ridden a lot of bikes, including cruisers/sports bikes; it really comes down to what you prefer. I prefer being able to ride for 6 hours straight through some killer canyons or along the coast. After riding a sportbike for 3-4 hours my body feels really cramped and I get almost dangerously fatigued.
on a cruiser its more of a relaxed feeling, while still having enough control to be reflexive to your environment. I like the smell of harley exhaust better, as well as the sound, the vibrations, the posture, the ride, and often, the look. Also with upgraded pipes you can put out a sound that makes other drivers aware of your presence. Its kind of a safety feature when riding conditions are less than ideal (and this is almost always the case)
the one thing ill say about sportsbikes, like a ninja, is that it is a mechanical dream. every nut, plate, and screw was put where it is for ideal performance, and it comes together to make such a monstrously reactive bike. you can slip between cars with a 2 1/2' or less clearing, you can speed from 0-60, or from 60-90 in mere seconds. I feel like I have more rider control on a sport bike, just because they are designed to be so incredibly responsive. braking is amazing, especially on the new models, or anything with antilock braking systems.
I love both ends of the biking spectrum (and this goes without mentioning dual sport motorcycles, which might be the best of all when it comes to safety). I would recommend getting a Harley in the end. When it comes down to it, they are just awesome fucking bikes. I feel great, comfortable, and in control when I ride them.
I would recommend a Sportster, as they are VERY responsive cruiser bikes. They get great MPG, they dont weigh a ton, and you can customize them to look like just about anything you want. Get a 1200 and do at least a stage 1 upgrade. You will be able to hit 60 in a couple seconds (I recommend this speed for safety, rather than being a speed demon; you never know when you will need immense power to get out of a jam, its good to have). I dont like the forward control option, as I like to have my feet underneath me.
Also, invest a good amount of money in comfortable and effective riding gear. buy a full face helmet, like a shoei RF 1000. and most importantly, enroll in the MSF training classes; and read books on motorcycle safety. The knowledge will more than likely save you from an accident, or at least reduce the damage should you go down.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: mick]
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here are a couple cool websites im reading up on right now. the first has a lot of info on motorcycle safety, as well as some interesting forums with user stories.
the second has reviews on certain motorcycles.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: czach]
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Streetfighter all the way. Its a mix of both pretty much. Raw looks of a custom Harley and speed and performance of a sporty. I have a custom Harley chopper and I would trade it anyday for a decent streetfight. Or Hayabusa.. omg. Lol.
thats what im hoping for no holding me back escaping nuclear fallpit... although no idea where im supposed to get fuel from :-p
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: indica]
#16193283 - 05/07/12 03:35 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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how about a ratbike?
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: thissongis]
#16199696 - 05/08/12 02:35 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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I will never own a bike as much as I want to, had someone really close to me almost lose their life and it was enough for me to not want to deal with the chance of having an old lady run a red light and take me out.
There's no denying that bikes are more dangerous than cars. However, the "old lady" scenario can happen to anyone, anytime. Car drivers, pedestrians, etc. It happened to the parents of my friend, while driving in their car. Both dead.
Riding a bike is a tradeoff, for sure. More danger, more exposure to the elements, pollution, etc. Yet cheaper (purchase cost, fuel, insurance, taxes), less waiting around in traffic, more enjoyable.
Indeed, but I just feel safer in a car.
I'm sorry, but your argument is stupid. I work in a dealership and I hear this tired excuses all the time. I know more people that ride bikes than I do that don't and I know more people that have died in cars. This is the bullshit excuse of somebody who is so afraid of life you will probably never try anything that might be a little dangerous. I don't know you but that lame ass statement tells me a lot about you. Next time don't say I have a close friend who ALMOST died, say I am to much of a pussy to ride. Sorry, I just hate that ignorant statement.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Cuttysvelt]
#16199731 - 05/08/12 02:44 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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I work in a dealership and I hear this tired excuses all the time. I know more people that ride bikes than I do that don't and I know more people that have died in cars.
Your own personal, anecdotal experiences are useless with respect to this argument.
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Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/crash.htm
http://www.iii.org/issues_updates/motorcycle-crashes.html
If you want to take that risk, that is your prerogative. But dont fool yourself into thinking that anecdotes are evidence or even relevant.
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: DieCommie]
#16200789 - 05/08/12 07:28 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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I work in a dealership and I hear this tired excuses all the time. I know more people that ride bikes than I do that don't and I know more people that have died in cars.
Your own personal, anecdotal experiences are useless with respect to this argument.
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Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/crash.htm
http://www.iii.org/issues_updates/motorcycle-crashes.html
If you want to take that risk, that is your prerogative. But dont fool yourself into thinking that anecdotes are evidence or even relevant.
I never stated that bikes were less dangerous, I said stop using that lame ass excuse to justify why you don't have a bike. It's a cop out. Don't say you want to ride, but you know somebody who got hurt so I don't. You don't want to ride. Period. It's not for everybody. You gotta have some balls and a little swag to ride a $20,000 750 pound chunk of metal
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Re: choppers vs sports bikes [Re: Cuttysvelt]
#16201260 - 05/08/12 09:09 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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BMW airhead! Beautiful design, better than a chopper & plenty of performance. + known for reliability.
Edited by Dest (05/08/12 09:12 PM)
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