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supernovasky
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Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them
#16177683 - 05/03/12 07:27 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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I honestly don't have much that I can add that the youtube video doesnt explain. This is just outright bizarre. Anyone from the area have input on this?
Video documentation by local activists and independent media shows that police officers and county deputies from across Minnesota have been picking up young people near Peavey Plaza for a training program to recognize drug-impaired drivers. Multiple participants say officers gave them illicit drugs and provided other incentives to take the drugs. The Occupy movement, present at Peavey Plaza since April 7th, appears to be targeted as impaired people are dropped off at the Plaza, and others say they've been rewarded for offering to snitch on the movement.
Local independent media activists and members of Communities United Against Police Brutality began investigating police conduct around the Plaza after witnessing police dropping off impaired people at the plaza and hearing rumors that they were offering people drugs. We videotaped police conduct and interviewed participants, learning some very disturbing information about the DRE program.
Officers stated on record the DRE program, run by the Minnesota State Patrol, has no Institutional Review Board or independent oversight. They agreed no ambulances or EMTs were on site at the Richfield MnDOT facility near the airport where most subjects were taken. Multiple times, participants left Peavey Plaza sober, returned intoxicated, and said they'd been given free drugs by law enforcement. We documented on more than one occasion, someone being told they were sober by one officer, and then picked up by a different officer, and returning intoxicated.
Given the dangers of impaired driving, there is value in training law enforcement officers to distinguish between the effects of various drugs and several common medical conditions. However, we have captured video footage of instances in which DRE trainees recruited subjects who are not already impaired, and those participants say they were given drugs by the officers.
Although program documents indicate that participants must sign a waiver, https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/msp/forms-reports/Documents/SFSTSponsorResponsib... there was no indication from any of the participants interviewed that a waiver was offered or obtained. Further, video footage seems to validate the recollections of participants that no medical personnel or ambulance were on site during the observation and testing in Richfield. A DRE officer told one of our investigators that no Institutional Review Board assessment of the program has been made, a requirement of all experiments involving human subjects. Since it's unethical to encourage people to take drugs--whether by giving them drugs directly or enticing them with food, cigarettes, or other rewards (which participants say they were given)--it is unlikely such a program would pass IRB review as it endangers the test subjects.
According to the WCCO article from May 2011, officer trainees in the past have worked with various non-profit organizations to recruit drug users. It would appear now that they are no longer relying solely on this tactic, instead recruiting users directly and, participants say, providing them with drugs. After the sessions, these individuals are then dropped off in public areas without supportive care, creating a public safety hazard. In an example at Peavey Plaza caught on film, an individual who said he's been smoking courtesy of the police for an hour, crossed a line of Minneapolis police barricades, climbed to the top of a large sign and sat 15 feet above the sidewalk swinging his arms and legs in front of a police camera.
Our investigation points to particular efforts to target and recruit youth. Further, law enforcement officers have been taped recruiting people from the Peavey Plaza area of Nicollet Mall and have dropped off a number of impaired individuals at Peavey Plaza. In some instances, Minneapolis police squad cars were present while DRE trainees recruited people at Peavey Plaza. After receiving drugs, some subjects were asked to snitch on the Occupy movement or asked about various people and activities of Occupy, they said. Given efforts by the Minneapolis city council to pass an ordinance designed to restrict access to Peavey Plaza by the Occupy movement, the conduct of DRE trainees points to the possibility that they are working hand-in-glove with Minneapolis police to discredit and disrupt the Occupy movement.
"I think most people would be very surprised to have our tax dollars used to get people high," states Michelle Gross, president of Communities United Against Police Brutality. "These activities call into question the methods and motives of this DRE training." Category: News & Politics Tags: Occupy OWS Occupy Minneapolis War on Drugs Drugs DRE Drug Evaluations Occupy Repression License: Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: supernovasky]
#16177708 - 05/03/12 07:33 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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I just moved from that area, that is super fucked up dude. Fuck those stupid cops.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: JimLahey]
#16177739 - 05/03/12 07:39 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Its just really strange man. I'm not exactly sure what they are trying to accomplish.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: supernovasky]
#16177767 - 05/03/12 07:46 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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This is just fuckin weird I really dont know what to think about this. The pot head in me says "Okay im getting high for free by some crooked cops" and the conspiracy theorist in me is saying "this is not good."
Im concerned its just a cover-up of something bigger. Why would they need these people for "testing" or an "evaluation"? They're the Almighty Law, they already know know everything about drugs.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: crokms]
#16177796 - 05/03/12 07:52 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Reading more into it.
The DRE program is a program apparently designed to let officers into court as certified "drug recognition experts." It allows them to use their testimony alone in court.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: supernovasky]
#16177896 - 05/03/12 08:15 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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ugh. This is SO FUCKING RETARDED on so many levels. Everytime i read something about progress, some fucktard police agency decides they are a bunch of retards and come up with stupid shit like this.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: withoutawire] 1
#16178373 - 05/03/12 09:46 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Crazy.
I watched that whole 35 minute video.
rI would neve get in a cop car with cops offering me drugs. Extremly sketchy.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: withoutawire] 1
#16178431 - 05/03/12 09:54 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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i wish the cops i ran into offered me free drugs instead they just take what i have and arrest me for it
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: allseeingike] 1
#16178452 - 05/03/12 10:00 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Why would they be able to do testimonials on that alone?
Most level headed, responsible drug users would never take part in that study, because it's extremely sketchy.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: trip forever] 1
#16180053 - 05/04/12 03:26 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Very irresponsible to go along with cops that offer you drugs.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: Humility]
#16180095 - 05/04/12 03:42 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Humility said: Very irresponsible to go along with cops that offer you drugs.
I'd do it, so long as they didn't request my name/ID/prints
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: allseeingike]
#16180101 - 05/04/12 03:44 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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allseeingike said: i wish the cops i ran into offered me free drugs instead they just take what i have and arrest me for it
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16180619 - 05/04/12 09:19 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah this is pretty bonkers. Not suprised it's in Minnesota though. After spending 2 weeks in their Hazelden Center for Youth and Families and seeing how manipulating and ineffective their entire philosophy on drugs and rehabilitation is, this kind of police work seems pretty similar. Studies have shown (don't have the source handy but easily found with a google) tha group rehabilitation facilities with in-patient treatment yields a very low percentage of sobriety and may actually facilitate a life long drug addict by destroying the self confidence of the casual drug user. With their rehab facilities and LEO's both proliferating drug use, I bet they have alot of quality drugs in that state...
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: Aphrodeezy]
#16181223 - 05/04/12 01:29 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Clearly this is illegal if it is really going on... Those cops could (SHOULD) be charged with the same bullshit laws that we get busted by... but the fact that they're doing this so blatantly and without harassment from the DOJ leads me to believe that something much bigger is going on. This is a CIA / Homeland security thing for sure. They've received orders from much higher up, and we'll never hear the true reason for why they're doing it. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if when the cat gets too far out of the bag, they arrest those officers and claim they were acting rogue. Serves the bastards right, but won't solve the creepy issue of unauthorized human testing
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: bongoboy2000]
#16181270 - 05/04/12 01:38 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
bongoboy2000 said: Clearly this is illegal if it is really going on... Those cops could (SHOULD) be charged with the same bullshit laws that we get busted by... but the fact that they're doing this so blatantly and without harassment from the DOJ leads me to believe that something much bigger is going on. This is a CIA / Homeland security thing for sure. They've received orders from much higher up, and we'll never hear the true reason for why they're doing it. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if when the cat gets too far out of the bag, they arrest those officers and claim they were acting rogue. Serves the bastards right, but won't solve the creepy issue of unauthorized human testing 
these cops should not be charged with any crime because if they do they migth get scared to do their job why do you think they dont get in trouble for killing innocent people? remember cops are more important than we are
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: allseeingike]
#16181303 - 05/04/12 01:44 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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lol, good point.
Let me step back and say, I obviously don't believe that anyone should be arrested for drugs... But given the current state of things.. these assholes are just as "guilty" as the rest of us according to the law. If not more so-- abuse of power, anyone?
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: bongoboy2000]
#16181903 - 05/04/12 04:00 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Is this real?
If so, what the fuck is going on here?
State police offering people drugs and cheeseburgers (and probably money) in exchange for info on a student protest movement? wtf?
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: bongoboy2000]
#16182153 - 05/04/12 05:00 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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bongoboy2000 said: but the fact that they're doing this so blatantly and without harassment from the DOJ leads me to believe that something much bigger is going on. This is a CIA / Homeland security thing for sure. They've received orders from much higher up, and we'll never hear the true reason for why they're doing it. (
I agree with you 100%.
This is very weird.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: supernovasky]
#16182535 - 05/04/12 06:50 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Retarded and sketch.
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Re: Wow. Cops in Minnesota are encouraging people to do drugs in front of them [Re: bongoboy2000]
#16182697 - 05/04/12 07:41 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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bongoboy2000 said: CIA / Homeland security
This is a study on biological warfare. I hope to god i see this on the mainstream news, otherwise I will assume it is in fact a covert op on U.S. citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
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