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 God particle.  1
#16145613 - 04/27/12 04:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Here we go 
A WEST Belfast-born engineer who is director of accelerators and technology at the Cern particle physics laboratory in Geneva has predicted that one of the key secrets of the universe will be discovered in a matter of months.
Dr Stephen Myers told an engineers’ conference in Belfast yesterday that evidence for the existence or non-existence of the Higgs boson – the so-called God particle – could be discovered as early as August and by October at the latest.
The Higgs boson was the remaining “big building block” to be discovered in terms of how to explain mass, said Dr Myers, during the course of his keynote lecture to the Engineers Ireland conference at the Europa Hotel in Belfast, and in an interview with The Irish Times. “It completes the standard model for mass,” he said.
During the course of his lecture on the 27km Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Cern, Dr Myers told the engineers that ongoing experiments at the collider should provide the answer as to whether the Higgs boson does or does not exist. He believed evidence would be found for its existence and this in turn would provide further important insights into the Big Bang, the creation of the universe, that scientists say happened about 13.7 billion years ago.
“If it does not exist there will be enough data to show that the Higgs is excluded and that there must be another mechanism for mass. I am confident that we will find the Higgs by August or September of this year,” he said.
Dr Myers said a very high standard of proof was required. “You only declare a discovery when you can say there is only a one in a million chance that you are wrong,” he said.
He believed that Cern would establish proof for the Higgs boson to a standard of a “one in two million chance of being wrong”.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0427/1224315234548.html
mah bday's in september =0
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Edited by Sober (04/27/12 04:10 AM)
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 Re: God particle. [Re: Sober]
#16145665 - 04/27/12 04:40 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Super awesome 
This will probably be moved to the pub though, as this has no relation to drugs or mushrooms.
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Whilst theoretical physicists chasing their tails is of interest to some this is not about drugs, or drug policies.
I was hoping it was an article on how the psylocibin molecule opens up the human mind to a different frequency of perception, allowing people to experience a different state of consciousness.
P.S: Wouldn't the sci & tech forums be a better place for this?
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slide down a pole than with your legs spread and using your pussy as a brake. Ask the fire department 
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Re: God particle. [Re: openmind] 1
#16145682 - 04/27/12 04:57 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Drugs and mushrooms have mass. They are trying to figure out how exists. Therefore, article involves mushrooms?
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Drugs and mushrooms have mass. They are trying to figure out how exists. Therefore, article involves mushrooms?
seems legit
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They ain't gonna find it. At least I hope they don't... 
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very interesting! 
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well i was on mushrooms when i came up with the thought, "you create god particles in your mind when your trippin on booms." you know when you get that really high pitched sound in your head? Maybe when the psilocybin combines with serotonin or something else it actually creates god particles in your mind. just a theory though, i have no idea. lol.
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I have no right to call myself one who knows. I was one who seeks, and I still am, but I no longer seek in the stars or in books; I’m beginning to hear the teachings of my blood pulsing within me. My story isn’t pleasant, it’s not sweet and harmonious like the invented stories; it tastes of folly and bewilderment, of madness and dream, like the life of all people who no longer want to lie to themselves.
~Hermann Hesse, Demia
Edited by Sober (04/27/12 05:57 PM)
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Re: God particle. [Re: Sober]
#16147430 - 04/27/12 05:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Spin # 42.
the meaning of life the universe and everything....
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Re: God particle. [Re: NWlight]
#16147812 - 04/27/12 06:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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How the fuck can you predict you will discover something nobody knows if it exists?
Scientists don't like to leave open timeframes, this guy has no idea what he is talking about.
He is one of those close-minded bastards that is looking for his own truth instead of the truth
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Re: God particle. (moved) [Re: Sober]
#16147916 - 04/27/12 06:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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 This thread was moved from Shroomery News Service.
Reason:
Good article, but not drug or mushroom related
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How the fuck can you predict you will discover something nobody knows if it exists?
With evidence and theory. Numerous particles have been predicted before discovery, with the Higgs Boson being the last one predicted by the standard model yet to be found. Calling it the 'God Particle' is real stupid though, I dont know who came up with that one.
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pretty cool
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Calling it the 'God Particle' is real stupid though, I dont know who came up with that one.
An explanation:
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According to people who have investigated the subject, the term originated with a 1993 history of particle physics by U.S. Nobel prize winner Leon M Lederman.
The book was titled: The God Particle: If the Universe is the Answer, What is the Question?
Physicists say Lederman, who over the years has been the target of much opprobrium from his scientific colleagues, tells friends he wanted to call the book “The Goddamned Particle” to reflect frustration at the failure to find it.
But, according to that account, his publisher rejected the epithet — possibly because of its potential to upset a strongly religious U.S. public — and convinced Lederman to accept the alternative he proposed.
“Lederman has a lot to answer for,” said Higgs himself, now 82, on a visit to Geneva some six years ago.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/14/the-higgs-boson-why-scientists-hate-that-you-call-it-the-god-particle/
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Very cool
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Calling it the 'God Particle' is real stupid though, I dont know who came up with that one.
My understanding is that it's from a pop science book someone was writing. He was describing the frustration at not having sufficiently powerful accelerators to probe the Higgs regime and so called it the God Damned Particle.
Unfortunately, his prudish, uptight publisher balked at that term and abbreviated it to the God Particle. That name unfortunately stuck. 
Edit: nevermind. johnm214 beat me to it. Should have read the whole thread before posting. 
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If there is a creator, he definitely has a sense of humor.
Edited by Diploid (05/02/12 01:44 PM)
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Re: God particle. [Re: NWlight]
#16171352 - 05/02/12 03:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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On an unrelated note.
"There's no definite proof that the pineal actually makes DMT. All the enzymes and precursors are there, but no one has actually isolated DMT from the pineal. It probably does make it, transiently but when? We don't know. Certainly DMT is made in other tissues...lungs, heart, adrenals. This we know. What's it doing there? nobody knows.
Keep searching..."
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Spin # 42.
the meaning of life the universe and everything....
Any more info on this? I tried searching for it with little luck.
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~Hermann Hesse, Demia
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Re: God particle. [Re: Sober]
#16171382 - 05/02/12 03:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hilarious and inconsequential, the lot of it. Enjoy the ride. Music is medicine.
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