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 Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive  [Re: frylock91]
#16175300 - 05/03/12 06:13 AM (1 year, 20 days ago) |
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No one else find it amusing that the guy's name was Chong?? Wonder if they got Cheech too...
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: frylock91]
#16175865 - 05/03/12 11:25 AM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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My apologies...you learned about it in high school...You must be right...
You even wrote an essay about it!
I was just relying on law school and years of studying the constitution...but you're clearly far more knowlegeable about it than me.
You really seem to love talking about yourself going to law school. This is like the 3rd time in 2 days I've seen you argue with someone to eventually bring it up 
You don't think it's a bit relevant when debating someone about the United States Constitution to mention your law training? He's been to law school, I think anyone reading this will believe the guy who went to law school and not the guy who wrote an essay about it in high school.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: PreparationH]
#16176041 - 05/03/12 12:20 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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You don't think it's a bit relevant when debating someone about the United States Constitution to mention your law training?
Precisely.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16176130 - 05/03/12 12:52 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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You really seem to love talking about yourself going too law school. This is like the 3rd time in 2 days I've seen you argue with someone to eventually bring it up
ya in the past few weeks I've seen him say it a bunch of times to. i think he believes a law degree is the only way someone can can a knowledgeable intelligent answer
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: biggysmall]
#16176176 - 05/03/12 01:07 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Based on many answers I've seen in this forum... he's right.
Many answers here are as dumb as rocks.
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Edited by luvdemshrooms (05/03/12 01:08 PM)
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16176191 - 05/03/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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I'm obviously way late getting to this thread - but damn, you have a 420 party for people with your guns and 18,000 ecstasy pills in the same location? (obviously the party had nothing to do with the bust - I am sure this person was on their radar already, but jeez!)
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: dwpineal]
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: Symbols]
#16176854 - 05/03/12 04:17 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Time to fire a lot of those fucking people for costing the American tax payer 20 million dollars.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: PreparationH]
#16177112 - 05/03/12 05:12 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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The Constitution in theory and in practice are two different things. In my experience, it works this way: If you have enough money, you can count on the protection of the Constitution. If you are really poor, then you can not afford to be protected under the Constitution.
You can have all the knowledge in the world about laws and the Constitution, but that doesn't mean shit if you can't recognize that the Constitution is not working for us anymore. It is not because the document is flawed, it is because the people charged with interpreting and enforcing it are.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: chrissake]
#16177616 - 05/03/12 07:13 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Sue and if that doesen't work sell everything you own, make a suicide vest and storm the DEA office. win,win (except for the DEA)
Seriously though, the only chance this kid has at winning a case would be if the media jumped on this story.. Seems to me like the mainstream media has almost as much power as your average politician. monica lewinsky
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
#16177897 - 05/03/12 08:15 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Wasn't sure if anyone else has posted this but hopefully justice will be coming chong's way
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/02/abandoned-dea-detainee-seeks-20-million/
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The UC San Diego student mistakenly locked up by federal drug officials for five days with no food or water filed a $20 million claim Wednesday that referred to his ordeal as torture.
Attorney Eugene Iredale sent the five-page demand notice on behalf of engineering student Daniel Chong, 23, to the Drug Enforcement Administration’s general counsel in suburban Washington D.C. by mail.
“The deprivation of food and water for four and one-half days while the person is handcuffed the entire time constitutes torture under both international and domestic law,” the claim says.
The letter requests that all federal agencies preserve any evidence related to the case, including video, interview notes and written reports.
Chong was taken into custody April 21 during a drug sweep by narcotics task force agents of a University City residence.
He was interviewed and told he would be sent home, but instead was left for days inside a holding cell without food, water or a bathroom. Chong said he had to drink his own urine to survive and ate his broken glasses during hallucinations caused by severe dehydration.
Chong was discovered April 25 and rushed to a hospital, where he spent five days in recovery.
The DEA issued a statement in response to questions from The Watchdog early this week, acknowledging the mistake. The agency has declined to answer specific questions because an internal investigation is pending. The statement did not address the time period involved in the detainee "accidentally" left unattended.
Iredale said the $20 million figure cited at the bottom of the claim is not necessarily the amount of money his client is demanding for damages he suffered during the five-day incarceration.
He said federal rules require attorneys to state a demand request ahead of any litigation and that amount tends to be the ceiling as far as awards or settlements.
Earlier in the day, the DEA issued an apology via the media. It was not transmitted to Chong and did not mention his name. The statement consisted of three sentences attributed to acting special agent in charge William R. Sherman:
“I am deeply troubled by the incident that occurred here last week. I extend my deepest apologies to the young man and want to express that this event is not indicative of the high standards that I hold my employees to. I have personally ordered an extensive review of our policies and procedures.”
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
#16178046 - 05/03/12 08:46 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Seriously though, the only chance this kid has at winning a case would be if the media jumped on this story.. Seems to me like the mainstream media has almost as much power as your average politician. monica lewinsky
The media has jumped on this story, it was on the front page of cnn yesterday.
But that has nothing to do with the legal facts of this case and I don't think media attention would influence its outcome very much.
The government is going to lose this case. The only question is how badly will they lose it? There are some mitigating factors, but not very many.
I think he will get several million less than he asked for because he admitted he was there to smoke weed. But I also think he will never have to work again.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16178092 - 05/03/12 08:55 PM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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I like how this sounds...
Chong v. 6 unnamed DEA Agents
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16180079 - 05/04/12 03:36 AM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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StatuesCryBleeding said:
Seriously though, the only chance this kid has at winning a case would be if the media jumped on this story.. Seems to me like the mainstream media has almost as much power as your average politician. monica lewinsky
The media has jumped on this story, it was on the front page of cnn yesterday.
But that has nothing to do with the legal facts of this case and I don't think media attention would influence its outcome very much.
The government is going to lose this case. The only question is how badly will they lose it? There are some mitigating factors, but not very many.
I think he will get several million less than he asked for because he admitted he was there to smoke weed. But I also think he will never have to work again.
I hope not. I don't want my tax dollars to retire this kid. He deserves some compensation for his ordeal, but not a get out of having to work for life settlement. I think 50k sounds fair for almost killing the kid through negligence.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: frylock91]
#16184982 - 05/05/12 08:42 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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frylock91 said:
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Enlil said:
My apologies...you learned about it in high school...You must be right...
You even wrote an essay about it!
I was just relying on law school and years of studying the constitution...but you're clearly far more knowlegeable about it than me.
You really seem to love talking about yourself going to law school. This is like the 3rd time in 2 days I've seen you argue with someone to eventually bring it up
Lol...You do realize that I said it in response to him saying that he studied it in high school..right?
You don't see the point of me bringing up law school? High school study of the constitution/law school study of it?
In any case, this lawsuit will be successful and will most likely result in a significant settlement for the kid....It won't be anywhere near 20 million, though.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: Symbols]
#16185180 - 05/05/12 10:04 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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unless im mistaken, which i may be, my holding cell had a toilet. this was solitary. the main holding cell definately had one and come to think of it so did the ones down stairs. the only room that didnt was the holding room just before court appearances.
Of course he was in a different facility all together.
anyways cool story bro
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16189815 - 05/06/12 12:12 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Rail_Gun said:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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StatuesCryBleeding said:
Seriously though, the only chance this kid has at winning a case would be if the media jumped on this story.. Seems to me like the mainstream media has almost as much power as your average politician. monica lewinsky
The media has jumped on this story, it was on the front page of cnn yesterday.
But that has nothing to do with the legal facts of this case and I don't think media attention would influence its outcome very much.
The government is going to lose this case. The only question is how badly will they lose it? There are some mitigating factors, but not very many.
I think he will get several million less than he asked for because he admitted he was there to smoke weed. But I also think he will never have to work again.
I hope not. I don't want my tax dollars to retire this kid. He deserves some compensation for his ordeal, but not a get out of having to work for life settlement. I think 50k sounds fair for almost killing the kid through negligence.
Wouldn't be bad if it came out of the annual DEA budget.. They're just going to waste that money locking up pot smokers anyways.
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
#16190796 - 05/06/12 05:22 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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The DEA confiscates so much cash, I think they can afford 20 mil without batting an eyelash. (some of that 20 mil, might even be some of yours!)
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16209887 - 05/10/12 03:00 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
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PreparationH said:
You don't think it's a bit relevant when debating someone about the United States Constitution to mention your law training?
Precisely.
This is ignorance
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Re: Student abandoned for 5 days in DEA holding cell drank own urine to survive [Re: SoreSpore]
#16210395 - 05/10/12 05:02 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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Yes. Your comment and graemlin is ignorant.
Admitting it is the first step. Good for you.
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