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deCypher


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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: White Beard]
#16168774 - 05/02/12 01:10 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Sometimes I get tired of all of this talk about how life is suffering and everything is so miserable, blah blah blah. I'm pretty happy at this moment in time... isn't it healthier to focus on the positives in one's situation than the negatives?
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: deCypher]
#16168805 - 05/02/12 01:16 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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A balance is preferable in my case.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: deCypher]
#16168892 - 05/02/12 01:36 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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You do like your comforts, DeCypher.
Positives and negatives.. duality may be defeated at some point. Who knows
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16169654 - 05/02/12 07:00 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Kickle said: So when I was really little I hit my head on a coffee table and started crying. I cried and I cried and I cried. I never stopped crying. And soon I ran out of oxygen. But even then I didn't inhale. I turned all sorts of lovely shades of purple and my brother grabbed the babysitter who called 911 and I was rushed to a hospital in an ambulance. No oxygen to my brain or body for minutes on end.
Anyways, the details aren't too important except in that I get the distinct impression that I might have been trying to off myself.
If there is any truth to what the Buddhists say about reincarnation and being closest to your past lives in the earliest years, I might have just said enough is enough and tried to get out before I got started again. And I really do wonder if this is the case. If nothing else, take this as a reflection of my feelings towards the cycles of birth/death. It sucks, get out early.
Yeah, the more dust you gather the more you've have to clean off.
I like the analogy of calcification, like some kind of plaque building up, appearing to solidify limit & confine what is really like open space, so this calcification has to be broken up, burnt off, not for the space to be, but to reveal the space of consciousness to itself.
In sanskrit terminology they're often called 'Vasanas', which are all our attachments, tendencies, thoughts, desires etc from previous lives, they are the cause of rebirth, Ramana used to say they have to be totally destroyed for Liberation, not just made latent for a while only to rise again with more vigor, but to be completely destroyed.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: deCypher]
#16170017 - 05/02/12 10:09 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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deCypher said: Sometimes I get tired of all of this talk about how life is suffering and everything is so miserable, blah blah blah. I'm pretty happy at this moment in time... isn't it healthier to focus on the positives in one's situation than the negatives?
Indeed, and I'd go as far to say we attract to us what we focus on. It's a shame people can get caught up in an entire life of guilt, self-pity, victim-mentality and whatever other negative mind set you can think of.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16170061 - 05/02/12 10:28 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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deCypher said: Sometimes I get tired of all of this talk about how life is suffering and everything is so miserable, blah blah blah. I'm pretty happy at this moment in time... isn't it healthier to focus on the positives in one's situation than the negatives?
Indeed, and I'd go as far to say we attract to us what we focus on.
Do you think if someone was very aware that everything is impermanent that they would die young 
I don't feel that focusing on death means you will die any sooner (attract death to you) if anything it enriches life
And being aware that every thing leads to suffering can lead to non-attachment to things, which is deeply blissfull
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: The Chronic]
#16170104 - 05/02/12 10:47 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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If someone is focusing on death in a fearful way, they may attract an early death. But isn't the type of death you are talking about synonymous with eternal life? Doesn't impermanence of the physical vessel imply a non-physical aspect of our self? At least that's how I see it.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16170116 - 05/02/12 10:52 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Exactly, focusing on those seemingly negative things has a very positive outcome
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: The Chronic]
#16170122 - 05/02/12 10:53 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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I wouldn't even call them "negative" if you see them in the right light.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16170131 - 05/02/12 10:56 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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precicely 
but to the majority of people they would seem like morbid depressing things to focus on
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16170132 - 05/02/12 10:56 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Kickle, what were you referring to when you were talking about the gnashing of teeth. Is that like the grounds on which reincarnation happens? Because I'm fairly certain reincarnation doesn't happen.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: whatsgrimace]
#16170155 - 05/02/12 11:05 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Our physicality is eaten up from the moment it comes into being. It was a reference to the impermanent nature of all things.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16170178 - 05/02/12 11:13 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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It's why I dislike the body and love the spirit.
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Kickle
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: whatsgrimace]
#16170192 - 05/02/12 11:19 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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I prefer to be swallowed in whole before I am forced to be. Diving right into the belly of the beast.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16171733 - 05/02/12 05:03 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Kickle said: So when I was really little I hit my head on a coffee table and started crying. I cried and I cried and I cried. I never stopped crying. And soon I ran out of oxygen. But even then I didn't inhale. I turned all sorts of lovely shades of purple and my brother grabbed the babysitter who called 911 and I was rushed to a hospital in an ambulance. No oxygen to my brain or body for minutes on end.
Anyways, the details aren't too important except in that I get the distinct impression that I might have been trying to off myself.
If there is any truth to what the Buddhists say about reincarnation and being closest to your past lives in the earliest years, I might have just said enough is enough and tried to get out before I got started again. And I really do wonder if this is the case. If nothing else, take this as a reflection of my feelings towards the cycles of birth/death. It sucks, get out early.
I did something similar on my seventh birthday. I ran into a busy street with my eyes closed and my lower leg was run over by a car. One more step and I would have been dead most likely. I'm pretty sure I was trying to get out of my family.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Icelander]
#16172734 - 05/02/12 08:32 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Ouch. How'd the leg fair?
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: White Beard]
#16177811 - 05/03/12 07:55 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Had a Grand Mal seizure, which I did not recover from. Everyone was in my room watching the doctors try to resuscitate me for 30 minutes. They gave up, declared me dead.
An hour later, I remember waking up, looking at the nurse who had a look of disbelief stare at me for a few seconds then run to tell my parents I was alive. I walked to the candy machine while she ran down the halls, while I was sad because I had no money to buy candy.
Now, the whole 'being dead' part is a whole different story.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Moronicus]
#16178343 - 05/03/12 09:42 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16178836 - 05/03/12 11:06 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Kickle said: Ouch. How'd the leg fair?
I got lucky, we were poor and I had to go to a bad hospital. A guest surgeon from a good hospital was giving a training to doctors there and when I came in he said he'd like to do my leg. The bone stuck out six inches. He fixed me good as new and I've never had a problem since.
There's more to this strange story. My grand parents owned a large (100 acre) farm with a trout stream, small lake, and lots of woods etc. where I played as a child. They were old and retired and the farm was going back wild again. I loved that place with all my heart but when they died it had to be sold. I was heartbroken. One day when I was about nineteen I drove out there and up to the house and met the owners and asked if I could just walk the land. I was expecting to be turned away but they invited me into the house and we chatted and they told me I was free to walk that land anytime but no hunting. They officially turned it into a wildlife preserve in later years.
When my sister was here for my birthday on 4/20 I mentioned that I had been there several times and how cool that couple was that owned that place and how glad I was that they ended up with it. She looked at me and said, "you know, that was the doctor who fixed your leg".
I cannot tell you how that made me feel.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Icelander]
#16178912 - 05/03/12 11:16 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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oh that wily life, always a few weird tricks up its sleeve
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