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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16179122 - 05/03/12 11:47 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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seems so, life is totally and completely strange (feeling)
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16181378 - 05/04/12 01:57 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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deCypher said: Sometimes I get tired of all of this talk about how life is suffering and everything is so miserable, blah blah blah. I'm pretty happy at this moment in time... isn't it healthier to focus on the positives in one's situation than the negatives?
Indeed, and I'd go as far to say we attract to us what we focus on. It's a shame people can get caught up in an entire life of guilt, self-pity, victim-mentality and whatever other negative mind set you can think of.
I've been reading Israel Regardie's Tree of Life and found this interesting quote:
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Now although Buddha did teach that life was fraught with pain and misery, I am inclined to believe, when remembering the psychology of Mysticism and of Mystics, whose peer he undoubtedly was, that this viewpoint was adopted by him only to spur men forward from chaos to the attainment of a superior mode of life. Once the viewpoint of the personal ego, the outcome of ages of evolution, has been transcended man may see the iron fetters of ignorance roll away to reveal an untrammelled vision of supreme beauty, the world is a living thing and joy for ever and ever. Is there not for all to see the beauty of the Sun and the Moon, the pageantry of the changing seasons in the year, the sweet music of daybreak, and the spell of nights under the open sky? What of the rain falling through the leaves of trees towering to the gates of heaven, and the dew in early morning creeping over the grass, tipping it with spear-points of silver?
Most readers will have heard of the experience of the great German Mystic, Jacob Boehme, who, after his divine beatific vision, walked into the green fields close to his village, beholding the whole of Nature ablaze with so glorious a light that even the tender blades of grass were resplendent with a divine loveliness and beauty that never had he seen before. Great Mystic that the Buddha was--beyond perhaps any other within the knowledge of the average reader--and great his insight into the working of the human mind, it is impossible to accept on its face value his pronouncement that life and living are a curse. Rather do I feel that this philosophic attitude was adopted by him in the hope that once again might mankind be induced to seek the inimitable wisdom which it had lost, to restore the inner equilibrium and the harmony of soul, thus fulfilling its destiny unrestricted by sense and mind.
Preventing this ecstatic enjoyment of life and all that the sacrament of life can give, there is one root cause of sorrow. In a word, ignorance. Because he is ignorant of what he really is in himself, ignorant of his true way in life, man is, the Buddha taught, so beset with sorrow and so sorely afflicted with distress.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: deCypher]
#16181413 - 05/04/12 02:04 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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That sounds pretty good. There's a few incidences when the Buddha acknowledged the beauty of the world. When he first became enlightened, he claimed to see the shining Buddha nature in all things, then there was a time he picked up a flower, looked at it and just smiled, and that was his whole teaching, and finally when he was preparing to enter parinirvana, he looked around at the scenery and commented on how beautiful everything was. I'm sure there is more but those are just a few from the top of my head. So yeah, the Buddha wasn't that depressed and mopey.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Icelander]
#16181642 - 05/04/12 02:49 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I'd call that a synchronicity.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#16181708 - 05/04/12 03:05 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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A "near death" experience.
That sure describes this bumpy ride quite well, I'd say.
A "near life" experience.
That sure describes this bumpy ride quite well, I'd say.
But how can you live what wasn't ever born, or kill what never dies?
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Symbols]
#16181977 - 05/04/12 04:18 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Life and Death are illusions. We just are.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: NARYA]
#16182161 - 05/04/12 05:02 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I hear that a lot but no one is willing to back the statement with action. So this leads me to believe its just a story being told by the mind.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Kickle]
#16182275 - 05/04/12 05:32 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Speak for yo self home skillet I AM.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: NARYA]
#16182320 - 05/04/12 05:45 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I'm speaking for no one but describing what I see. You are no exception far as I can tell although I'm open to seeing otherwise at any time. Prove that its an illusion by killing yourself and then making a post. Unless your post is just as much an illusion as dying and so linked, which is my guess.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: NARYA]
#16182351 - 05/04/12 05:55 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I totally agree with the kicklemiester.
Can you give some examples of your I Am-ness.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: Icelander]
#16182488 - 05/04/12 06:35 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Everything is an example of that statement. It is its own proof.
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Re: My near death experience and the questions surrounding it for me [Re: NARYA]
#16182585 - 05/04/12 07:06 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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That's what I thought.
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“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
― Robert Anton Wilson
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