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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16125398 - 04/22/12 08:08 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

I've got a bed that i am trying to sell ontop of weights, so i've just been GTG (grease the groove) pushups ontop of running and cycling...

sets of 20 - 100+ everyday. Definitely seems to be developing my chest at least. :smile:


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16125593 - 04/22/12 08:54 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

One time coming down from 'shrooms while camping, still glowing, I did 5 sets of 30 reps for push-ups... in addition to some other "purifying" pseudo-spiritual activities like getting down in that position while on the shore of a lake & letting incoming waves wash over my tongue. Nonetheless, that's about where I'm at with push-ups (with or w/o drugs). But you've got 50-60 kg on me for 1RM with bench presses. I hope within a year to be able to bench my own weight (~195 lbs at present) 10 times.

I may well never get to 330 lbs for 1RM... unless perhaps I use 'roids intelligently starting in my 30s (I won't consider using them until in my 30s bc I have high test. levels already w/o them). Read a book by Carlon Colker (M.D., FACN) where I think he said starting around age 35 you can go longer add muscle mass, even w/'roids. Maybe he said 40, but off top of my head think I remember reading 35. That seems a little early to me, especially if using PEDs. Anybody know anything on the subject?


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #16125714 - 04/22/12 09:20 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

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EntheogenicPeace said:Read a book by Carlon Colker (M.D., FACN) where I think he said starting around age 35 you can go longer add muscle mass



well that's me fucked then, I'm 40.
saying that, I think I maybe have added a little bit of muscle mass in the last 5 years. just a eeny beeny bit maybe?:grin:
that guy doesn't know what he's FACN taking about, regardless of his "qualifications".


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16126084 - 04/22/12 10:40 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

To clarify, I think he was making the statement in the context of an already weight-trained individual. That being said, you would qualify as such (unless you started rather late in life?). Anyways, next time I have a chance I'll double check what he said & post it. It does have relevance for me, like I said, bc I could definitely see myself (cautiously) using some PEDs within a decade assuming my test. levels decline to "normal" sometime by my mid-30s (in my mid-to-late 20s now), and of course if they will help me make gains.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #16137695 - 04/25/12 01:54 PM (1 year, 27 days ago)

yeah baby.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16139651 - 04/25/12 10:46 PM (1 year, 27 days ago)

:jealous:


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16152624 - 04/28/12 09:22 PM (1 year, 24 days ago)

benched 'bout tree sixty tonight.
is such a bench even yet another personal best?

























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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16152753 - 04/28/12 09:56 PM (1 year, 24 days ago)

Hey guys.
Getting back into squats/lifting here.

I did 135 lbs. x 10reps 4 sets today and I was beat....fuck that

Probably shitty squat form. There was this chick on the cage next to me with like twice as much weight.


Fuck. How have I sunk so low



squat squat squat squat squat squat


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Solemente]
    #16159749 - 04/30/12 12:52 PM (1 year, 22 days ago)

Still a god damned month out, leg is casted. Gonna do what I can to stay active; though my foot kills in this thing. My calf has already shrunk and it's not been a week yet


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16161068 - 04/30/12 05:49 PM (1 year, 22 days ago)

I been hittin it pretty consistently.  Although I enjoy repping my weights which I suppose makes it "body building" so I dont really post here as much.  I'm bout to go hit it tho so ... here we go again, lets do work damnit



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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Blindtheeye]
    #16161702 - 04/30/12 07:56 PM (1 year, 22 days ago)

my best deadlift of all time.



OF ALL TIME!:cool:


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16162090 - 04/30/12 08:57 PM (1 year, 22 days ago)

nice man what do you weigh??...you look like a huge mofo. I would like to start dead lifting but I'm scared I might injure my back or something...it would be nice to have someone show me the proper form and stuff. also my right knee is pretty weak so I'm afraid to squat as well...it sucks because I know those two compound lifts really help you develop muscle and strength.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: tdubz]
    #16166604 - 05/01/12 06:08 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Only way to strengthen your knee would be squat. Start light and perfect your technique, the weight comes with time.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16172391 - 05/02/12 07:34 PM (1 year, 20 days ago)

I like working out at home.  As I have limited space and no ability to bench -- I've really been enjoying dumbbell fly's

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: meams]
    #16173558 - 05/02/12 10:42 PM (1 year, 20 days ago)

Damn, its been awhile since I last posted here.

  How is everyone's fitness going?  Champion still deadlifting like a madman I see!  I'm still hitting it hard 4-5 days a week, really happy with the cut this time around as i'm not losing much lean muscle.  Last time was one of those cuts where you lose weight too quick and lose muscle/strength.  I was going crazy on EC with too much cardio for my body type and not enough cal's/fats.  This time around im keeping the fats way higher, almost like a keto (but still eating carbs in the morning and after a workout), not doing direct cardio, and going lighter on the EC, only down like 4lb in a month but i'm way leaner!  I guess it's going through yet another trial and error seeing what works best for your specific body.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #16189239 - 05/06/12 08:38 AM (1 year, 17 days ago)

Hey all.


I'm having a real good time using weights (i.e. not a Kettlebell).  The workouts are not as hard as the KB (which wrecks you with cardio before your muscles can feel truly exhausted), but I'm enjoying the size and strength gains.

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: meams]
    #16191061 - 05/06/12 06:35 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

I still haven’t tried KBs yet, but since I will be finishing up a creatine phase here within the next couple weeks, maybe I will try them as I almost certainly would benefit from some variety to my routine during this off phase. Plus, it’s a good time of year to get really lean :smile:  Since I know nothing about KB routines, is the physical structure of the KB particularly special, or could you improvise with plates and/or dumbbells since I already have plenty on hand? If not, are they very expensive?

To Champion: Colker’s book says the following, “It’s important for the older bodybuilder to understand that, even with the assistance of drugs, you simply can’t get a whole lot bigger in the years ahead. Most of the growing your body is capable of will be behind you. What you can do is train smart enough to keep what you’ve built, grow as much as your body will allow you to, and carve each muscle, crafting density, quality and muscle maturity.”

Whatever the hell “muscle maturity” is, lol. Plus, I think increased muscular density is a function of powerlifting more often. At the end it sounds like he’s just saying more than needs to be said. I would imagine that it also depends on past experience/one’s current degree of fitness. Obviously as the years go by with good training, gains slow down. So if someone is already very well trained by the time they are in their mid-30s, further muscle growth would be difficult.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #16191125 - 05/06/12 06:49 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

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I still haven’t tried KBs yet, but since I will be finishing up a creatine phase here within the next couple weeks, maybe I will try them as I almost certainly would benefit from some variety to my routine during this off phase. Plus, it’s a good time of year to get really lean :smile:  Since I know nothing about KB routines, is the physical structure of the KB particularly special, or could you improvise with plates and/or dumbbells since I already have plenty on hand? If not, are they very expensive?





KBs are moderately expensive.  There is something about the way that they're shaped that provided a particular benefit to the user.  Sadly, someone smarter than me would have to explain the specifics (try the Dragondoor forum) but I think it's just that the awkward shape makes your body work harder.

I've seen improvised kettlebells before, used with plates, but I'd feel sketched out just incase the whole thing came apart.  When the KB is original - its impossible for one solid hunk of iron to come apart or break :wink:

And yes.  Kettlebells will certainly help you lean out.  One particular regiment of KB use (the V02 MAX snatch protocol, search for it in the Dragondoor forum) has been studied by scientists at some university and equated to running a 4:00 mile or cross-country skiing uphill.  Just the ultimate cardiovascular beating -- plus you're snatching a KB, so your muscles are getting worked.

Its sweet.  KB Snatches are like, the most intense workout that exists (IMO).  They are so taxing, but make you feel like such a beast.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: meams]
    #16199579 - 05/08/12 02:04 PM (1 year, 14 days ago)

6 plates a side baby.:grin:



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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16201509 - 05/08/12 09:58 PM (1 year, 14 days ago)

damn thats pretty beast like.


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