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#16159457 - 04/30/12 11:33 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
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 Wiccan_Seeker
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: BeefheartisBetter]
#16159475 - 04/30/12 11:38 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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BeefheartisBetter said:
True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
Thats not at all the case, they just don't feel it's necessary to take action for whatever reason.
If 74% of the people here were doing this, I'd be out of here. If it was 7.4% I'd be sick to my stomach. But its more like 0.74% doing it, and doing it a lot.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#16159480 - 04/30/12 11:39 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Thats a large number of people to recognize a problem and wanting increased moderation.
I don't think increased moderation is the answer. One mod (who I think quite highly of) has publicly stated he wishes no part in the moderation of most racial slurs.
Introduce a script that instantly permabans any member for racist/homophobic comments. If that member thinks the ban is unjust, let them file a support ticket.
Few will leave if racist/homophobic slurs are banned. Those that do, the Shroomery is better off without.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: BeefheartisBetter]
#16159482 - 04/30/12 11:40 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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BeefheartisBetter said:
True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
That might actually count... in a democracy.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: DieCommie]
#16159493 - 04/30/12 11:42 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Free speech is great and all, but at what cost?
The simple rule should be that we tolerate people of all races AND we tolerate people's right to free speech as long as it doesn't conflict with our tolerance of all races.
To put it another way, everyone should be allowed to be happy and do what they want unless doing so infringes someone else's happiness and freedom.
Overtly racist smileys should be removed, and people should be discouraged from using the word "nigger", as I can't really see an instance where that word would be constructive or necessary. Then again I'm not American so I don't know, maybe it's acceptable in some instances.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16159498 - 04/30/12 11:44 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Introduce a script that instantly permabans any member for racist/homophobic comments.
You cant really do that because people could be discussing the word academically.
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If that member thinks the ban is unjust, let them file a support ticket.
As much as I love support tickets, I'm the only admin who feels that way and it'd be a lot of work initially.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16159502 - 04/30/12 11:44 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Ythan]
#16159505 - 04/30/12 11:44 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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I didn't read the whole thread...after 5 pages of people arguing the existence of racism, I got bored...
But it seems to me that it's not quite as simple as a few racist words...
To call someone a "nigger" or a "fag" or an "idiot" is both a flame and a statement about a group of people....We could certainly ban the word "nigger", because it might offend black people, but what about the retards who hate the word "retard?"
I understand the need for some moderation in this area...Threads on this site are particularly prone to devolution until they become a couple of douchebags saying "i know you are but what am i?"...and that type of content doesn't help the site in terms of quality or quantity of participation....Although douchebags might be offended by my use of the word "douchebag."
For me, my preference would be to have a forum free of words like colored, spade, nigger, jungle bunny, jigaboo, coon, pickininny, mau mau, uncle tom, aunt jemima, little black sambo, cotton picking swamp ginny, shoeshine boy, porch monkey, etc...But I would never wish to see others silenced for using those words...
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16159506 - 04/30/12 11:45 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
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BeefheartisBetter said:
True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
That might actually count... in a democracy.
You're not the first one that has pointed that out, but the poll was made
for a reason. I understand they have the right make whatever choice they
want. They question is, should they.
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You are on my turf when you are in the pub.[/quote]
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: luvdemshrooms] 5
#16159512 - 04/30/12 11:46 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
That might actually count... in a democracy.
No this applies here as well. If opinion didn't matter to Ythan he wouldn't have taken a poll. derp.
We are not voting for a rule change, we are casting votes to show our opinion so Ythan and other admins can make an informed decision. We get you don't think this is a democracy, you won't shut up about it, but nobody else is really under that illusion either.
Even the most totalitarian forms of governemt take peoples opinions into consideration, sometimes. Doesn't mean they have to.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: BeefheartisBetter]
#16159515 - 04/30/12 11:47 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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BeefheartisBetter said:
True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
This is a very weak argument...for several reasons...
First, the majority on this site are likely to be white...so there is a serious possibility of tyranny of the majority...
Second, this site is not democratically run.
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Fuck the Amish
Rail_Gun said, "And those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead. I am glad that the survivors will have to "live with it" too. hahaha"
Listerine said, "i want genocide for most of africa"
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#16159523 - 04/30/12 11:50 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Introduce a script that instantly permabans any member for racist/homophobic comments.
You cant really do that because people could be discussing the word academically.
Sure you can. The word has (for ages) been discussed to death. Let them discuss it elsewhere.
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If that member thinks the ban is unjust, let them file a support ticket.
As much as I love support tickets, I'm the only admin who feels that way and it'd be a lot of work initially.
Initially being the keyword.
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“In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients.
Thomas Sowell
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Enlil]
#16159526 - 04/30/12 11:51 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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First, the majority on this site are likely to be white...so there is a serious possibility of tyranny of the majority...
So the only votes that count are ones that come from black people?
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Second, this site is not democratically run.
See last post.
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[quote]YSHServant said:
You are on my turf when you are in the pub.[/quote]
[quote]ButteredToast said:
Shroomery 2012- Thread goes from discussing a possibly deceased member to posting nudes of her.[/quote]
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Big L]
#16159531 - 04/30/12 11:53 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Big L said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
That might actually count... in a democracy.
No this applies here as well. If opinion didn't matter to Ythan he wouldn't have taken a poll. derp.
We are not voting for a rule change, we are casting votes to show our opinion so Ythan and other admins can make an informed decision. We get you don't think this is a democracy, you won't shut up about it, but nobody else is really under that illusion either.
Even the most totalitarian forms of governemt take peoples opinions into consideration, sometimes. Doesn't mean they have to.
Asking for an opinion does not make the place a democracy.
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Thomas Sowell
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Enlil]
#16159532 - 04/30/12 11:53 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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The shroomery is not doing enough to spread it around
Considering most of you seem to be pale hillbilly faggots
There should be more white trash smilies
Not enough black people to put em to use.
Some kike ones would be appropriate too.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Big L] 3
#16159544 - 04/30/12 11:55 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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I want to go on record as stating that I find it appropriate to post the real hello.jpg in the pub or any other forum that someone introduces themselves in. I think it is warm and hilarious tradition. It also works as an "acid test" to determine whether or no they are truly Shroomery material.
 
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: BeefheartisBetter]
#16159545 - 04/30/12 11:55 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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BeefheartisBetter said:
So the only votes that count are ones that come from black people?
Except that's not what he said.
Just a rhetorical question to no-one in particular...
Why do so many have so much trouble with the written word, and responding to what was actually said?
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“In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients.
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: BeefheartisBetter]
#16159548 - 04/30/12 11:56 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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BeefheartisBetter said:
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First, the majority on this site are likely to be white...so there is a serious possibility of tyranny of the majority...
So the only votes that count are ones that come from black people?
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Second, this site is not democratically run.
See last post.
No, that's not the only votes that count, but slavery was in this country for 100 years under majority rule...and for another 100 years after that, racial segreation was allowed under majority rule...
The majority isn't always right...
If this site was run by majority rule, it would be a different site...Ythan is absolutely right and prudent to get the opinion of the users of this site. That is useful information for making an informed decision...but that doesn't mean that he's bound to take the results of the poll and use it as law...
The goals of the owners of this site are different from the goals of the users....I don't pretend to speak for Ythan or to be able to read his mind...but I do assume that reaching a broad and large audience is a part of the goals of this site...
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Fuck the Amish
Rail_Gun said, "And those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead. I am glad that the survivors will have to "live with it" too. hahaha"
Listerine said, "i want genocide for most of africa"
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#16159554 - 04/30/12 11:57 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
Just a rhetorical question to no-one in particular...
Why do so many have so much trouble with the written word, and responding to what was actually said?
Like this?
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luvdemshrooms said:
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BeefheartisBetter said:
True, but you know what's larger? The 74% that feel they shouldn't be censored.
That might actually count... in a democracy.
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Pull over that ass. Too fat.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Do you think the Shroomery does too much to promote racism? [Re: Big L]
#16159556 - 04/30/12 11:58 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Nope. I was responding, accurately, to what was said.
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“In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients.
Thomas Sowell
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