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 DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says 
#16148367 - 04/27/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Drug gains popularity, school officer says
With at least one incident of an unidentified Woodland Park teenager hospitalized after ingesting DMT, along with marijuana, RE-2 School Resource Officer Sean Goings offered insights into the drug.
“DMT is a hallucinogen that causes a huge disconnect from reality,” said Goings, speaking to the board of North Teller Build a Generation April 25. “It’s akin to LSD and mushrooms but with shorter-term effects.”
Available in toad venom, plant and synthetic form, DMT causes the user to have an out-of-body experience, Goings said. “I’m not sure why it’s become more popular with our kids.”
The drug interferes with the neurotransmitter serotonin and, as a result, causes physical disconnect, Goings said. “Serotonin keeps you locked into reality and the drug disrupts that process,” he added.
DMT, or dimethyltryptamine, can be dissolved, shot up, ground up, snorted or taken in tablet form, he said.
Stronger than “spice,” the synthetic marijuana-like substance, DMT causes psychotic reactions in some users, with the results potentially dangerous. “The drug’s effects are very unpredictable; people have landed in the hospital after taking DMT,” Goings said. “I have heard that our kids were lacing this drug with marijuana to get a better high.”
In addition to being the school resource officer, Goings is a member of the BAG board of directors, whose mission is to support and strengthen the community through communication and collaboration among agencies, groups and individuals for the benefit of young people.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148386 - 04/27/12 08:32 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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do these anti-drug assholes realize DMT is in every one of our bodies?
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#16148390 - 04/27/12 08:32 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: trip forever]
#16148398 - 04/27/12 08:34 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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"I'm not sure why it's popular"
Drugs have always been popular....
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy] 1
#16148416 - 04/27/12 08:39 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Finally, an article about DMT that isn't full of lies. Every statement the reporter makes is true. How often does that happen?!?
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joemolloy
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16148446 - 04/27/12 08:45 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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The toad venom might be stretching it a bit.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148501 - 04/27/12 09:00 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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I thought toad venom was 5meo, not n-n..
I read a lot of retarded articles by ill-informed morons on the news service, but this one is definitely up there. Reads like it was written by a 12 year old.
Fucking stronger than Spice... 
I am increasingly annoyed with the media buzz/hype surrounding DMT at the moment, makes me wonder if people in high places (no pun intended) are starting to worry that the internet may begin to open minds, rather than pacify them with porn, movies of cats with bread on their head etc..
There does seem to be a concerted push on all media fronts to demonise DMT at the moment. There are more people taking/making it in more places than ever before in human history, I sense a gradual 60's type movement that scares the hell out of the establishment.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: egodeathflux] 1
#16148537 - 04/27/12 09:09 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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makes me wonder if people in high places (no pun intended) are starting to worry that the internet may begin to open minds, rather than pacify them with porn, movies of cats with bread on their head etc..
I'm not sure that the elites are too worried about us opening our minds with these drugs. Take a look at most of the posts in psychedelic websites. Overwhelmingly screwball nonsense mixed with middle class white angst. It's hardly the stuff of the 1960s. We get high and have a deeper appreciation for cats with bread on their heads. These drugs do pacify us and have us chasing our own tails. I wouldn't be surprised if the elites are the biggest pushers as they laugh at the stoned slaves who think they're free.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148586 - 04/27/12 09:23 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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I thought you would have something to say.. I'm not one of these people who casts DMT in the realm of the divine, though it makes me wonder sometimes.
I appreciate the feelings of empathy and understanding, as well as the hallucinations, but I guess you gotta enjoy that to do DMT.
It definitely leaves me with a clearer mind and purer intent in life. Along with the disregarding of the importance of financial wealth/gain/etc. That I think is where the potential threat to the establishment may lie; people not wanting to fund never ending wars and things of that ilk. Having people realise that putting people in cages for ingesting plants may be a little heavy handed.
I see more of a seeping change than the attempted tidal wave of the 60's. As I said there are far more people taking these substances around the world, in different cultures than at any time in our past, this is due to the internet IMO, not a ploy by the elite to keep us sedate. Though I'll admit that inner city crack etc has been a method used by governments around the world. Not sure it's been attempted with DMT.
I have seen you posit the idea that the elite may be indeed laughing as they drug us.. But DMT has been around for 1,000's of years longer than the DEA or 'illuminati' 
I have been meaning to read a few of your threads on the subject, you are somewhat notorious around here as I'm certain you know. Wanna link me a couple that capture the essence of your experiences/dis-illusionment? I'm not being a smart ass, I'd genuinely like to know.
I've only started probing more deeply into the DMT realm the last 3-4 months, though I have had some stashed for a couple years.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: egodeathflux]
#16148619 - 04/27/12 09:34 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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DMT tablets?
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: egodeathflux]
#16148722 - 04/27/12 10:05 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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But DMT has been around for 1,000's of years longer than the DEA or 'illuminati'
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Haven't most drugs, though?
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148758 - 04/27/12 10:19 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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I wouldn't be surprised if the elites are the biggest pushers as they laugh at the stoned slaves who think they're free.
maybe so.. But thats not going to stop them from banning EVERYTHING eventually
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: trip forever]
#16148766 - 04/27/12 10:23 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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My point I guess was that DMT itself is not really a drug you can 'push'. Most people are scared beyond curious, though it seems more people are becoming brave (or more likely stupid and after anything they can get high on.)
And the genesis of the chemical in the Western world has largely been due to counter-culture and urban chemists etc.
I'm a little high on pod tea, forgive me if I'm a little less than coherent.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148813 - 04/27/12 10:33 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Egodeathflux, my experience with ayahuasca originally had me believing all sorts of benefits. I was certain that it was healing, it felt like 20 years of therapy in a few hours, it was empathetic as well as empowering. I'd think in metaphors and my trips would be beautiful poetry. The spiritual aspect of the trips certainly had me thinking about the soul, eternity, and even my own divinity. It touched me in all the right places and hit all the right buttons. I was a believer. Intensely. I tripped for two years on ayahuasca every Saturday, over 100 trips. I was convinced I was growing as a person, that I was happier, more creative, more kind, and deeper thinking.
I was addicted. I was bullshitting myself, I was becoming a creepy fuck with quasi-philosophical nonsense and skirting the edges of schizoid thought. Ayahuasca was a head game, the perfect fucking drug that turned me into a clown. There was no truth in those trips, no deep introspection. Just cliche and trite aphorisms along with some half-assed solipsistic spirituality. They were giant narcissistic orgies celebrating and inflating and worshiping me. Damn, it was fun.
Now my detractors would say I abused the drug and therein was the problem. Bullshit. If I tripped once a month instead of once a week, I'd have delayed and extended the time with my head in the clouds. I simply expedited my psychedelic side journey by tripping so much and am much healthier today because of it.
I believe integration is rationalization to continue taking drugs. I believe these drugs have limited benefit for others and zero benefit for most. Many psychonauts are trapped in a sad maze. I've also been accused of projecting my experiences onto others, but that doesn't bother me.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16148873 - 04/27/12 10:46 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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joemolloy said:
Egodeathflux, my experience with ayahuasca originally had me believing all sorts of benefits. I was certain that it was healing, it felt like 20 years of therapy in a few hours, it was empathetic as well as empowering. I'd think in metaphors and my trips would be beautiful poetry. The spiritual aspect of the trips certainly had me thinking about the soul, eternity, and even my own divinity. It touched me in all the right places and hit all the right buttons. I was a believer. Intensely. I tripped for two years on ayahuasca every Saturday, over 100 trips. I was convinced I was growing as a person, that I was happier, more creative, more kind, and deeper thinking.
I was addicted. I was bullshitting myself, I was becoming a creepy fuck with quasi-philosophical nonsense and skirting the edges of schizoid thought. Ayahuasca was a head game, the perfect fucking drug that turned me into a clown. There was no truth in those trips, no deep introspection. Just cliche and trite aphorisms along with some half-assed solipsistic spirituality. They were giant narcissistic orgies celebrating and inflating and worshiping me. Damn, it was fun.
Now my detractors would say I abused the drug and therein was the problem. Bullshit. If I tripped once a month instead of once a week, I'd have delayed and extended the time with my head in the clouds. I simply expedited my psychedelic side journey by tripping so much and am much healthier today because of it.
I believe integration is rationalization to continue taking drugs. I believe these drugs have limited benefit for others and zero benefit for most. Many psychonauts are trapped in a sad maze. I've also been accused of projecting my experiences onto others, but that doesn't bother me.
I don't know if I believe your conclusions, but I've definitely suspected them. Glad to hear some psychedelic blasphemy.
On another note, it seems like every 20-something hipster I meet has heard of ayahuasca and wants to do it. It's the "cool" thing to do these days.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#16149047 - 04/27/12 11:30 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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No kidding I work with a 21 year old who just got into the rave scene  and has rolled 4 times 1 of which he plugged a pill! Anyways he mentioned dmt an I'm like "how do you know what that is!?" He says "I heard its this life changing mind opening experience but I can't find anyone with any! I want a life changing trip sooooooo bad!" 
I also live in a big city with a large hipster population and I'm hearing about it a lot in casual conversation. Granted I'm not going to correct or even let any of these people know I know anything about it. Leave my favorite drug alone and out of the news! Stick to your spice and salvia damnit!
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: Rewindicus]
#16149172 - 04/28/12 12:04 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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DMT is mainstream now. Jennifer Aniston did it in some movie and they did it in weeds.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16150077 - 04/28/12 05:15 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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“I’m not sure why it’s become more popular with our kids.”
Then go read a fucking book maybe.
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: joemolloy]
#16150154 - 04/28/12 06:13 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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makes me wonder if people in high places (no pun intended) are starting to worry that the internet may begin to open minds, rather than pacify them with porn, movies of cats with bread on their head etc..
I'm not sure that the elites are too worried about us opening our minds with these drugs. Take a look at most of the posts in psychedelic websites. Overwhelmingly screwball nonsense mixed with middle class white angst. It's hardly the stuff of the 1960s. We get high and have a deeper appreciation for cats with bread on their heads. These drugs do pacify us and have us chasing our own tails. I wouldn't be surprised if the elites are the biggest pushers as they laugh at the stoned slaves who think they're free.
wow vicious but well said.
So why do you think DMT is BS? I never used it but I'm curious as to your opinion.
You seem to have a very vivid awareness on these matters. You must be some researcher or something right?
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Re: DMT - Drug gains popularity, school officer says [Re: smooflord]
#16150320 - 04/28/12 08:39 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Don't get him started. 
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