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 Public speaking break down. 
#16131576 - 04/24/12 03:06 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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So I know everyone gets at least a little anxious when having to speak in front of a crowd, and I don't want to belittle that, but shit do I have major issues with it.
To get my degree I have to take a public speaking class. I've put it off until my last two semesters. Finally registered for it, sat through the lectures, and then tonight I have my first speech. I'm completely prepared, know it by heart, my name is called, I stand up and basically panic. I grab all my shit and walk out of the classroom. Bleh...
I need the class to graduate and after tonight I've all but dropped this one. Gonna make an appointment with my doctor tomorrow see if I can get something to get me through the panic attacks.
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 Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131579 - 04/24/12 03:08 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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small dose of xanies..
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: rackem]
#16131587 - 04/24/12 03:11 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Dude xanax is a life saver. When I spoke about legalizing weed in college I started bugging out before my speech.
A tiny piece of xanax though and 30 seconds later I was golden. Even a small piece of xanax can be a life saver in those situations.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131589 - 04/24/12 03:11 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Everybody does, so you're not alone. But yeah, I imagine benzos would help with that.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: ToiletDuk]
#16131605 - 04/24/12 03:20 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Ten four on the benzos! I should have just used em in the first place but I thought I had the speech covered. When my name was called it felt outer body. I panicked and left. Didn't even feel like I had control.
Well now at least I have a legitimate excuse to maybe get some free ones from my doc... Or something in the ways of anxiety reduction at least.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. ONLY I WILL REMAIN.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131637 - 04/24/12 03:31 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Benzos would work but you gotta get the dosage right. Stimulants are pretty good too but more from a know-what-to-say-&-how-to-say-it perspective rather than reducing anxiety (although they help me with social anxiety).
But I'd say look into beta-blockers. A lot of public speakers, like university lecturers etc, take it. It calms down your cardiovascular system and generally helps you get your shit together.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: rackem] 1
#16131660 - 04/24/12 03:38 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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I remember this feeling well. I had to take a speech course in HS in order to graduate. Hated it in the worst way, hated it so bad that I failed it once, and on the second time had to make up a presentation on the day before graduation if I wanted to get my Certificate with everyone else.
Again in college was the same course, hated it even then.
Now I look back on a lot of the things I've done in life, and realize how critical those hated classes were in my development as a person. Every great job I've ever had was a direct result of the skills I learned in those classes.
If you ever hope to perform from a position of leadership, then you will need to learn to speak with authority, and hold peoples attention. It sucks at first, but gets easier and easier each time you do it.
One thing that helped me speak from a position of power, is to realize that everyone in room is there to hear what you have to say. That means that they already respect you, and want to hear your opinion or idea. When you speak, it is you who are the authority on the subject, or there would be no audience.
The more you fear it the worse it will be for you. You can do it, is just going to be uncomfortable. But I would say that this is one of the best things that can help you developed as a person.
Two interesting facts:
#1 Most people are more afraid of public speaking, than they are of death.True story, its a statistic.
#2 I'm really high right now.
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careful using those benzos.... one tiny slip of the hand and you'll go from smooth as fuck to a blithering retard.
I'd prefer 2-3 shots of vodka 
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NWlight]
#16131670 - 04/24/12 03:42 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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careful using those benzos.... one tiny slip of the hand and you'll go from smooth as fuck to a blithering retard.
I'd prefer 2-3 shots of vodka
Thats the problem with benzos but people might spot you've had a drink. Use what public speakers use - beta-blockers. It doesn't fuck you up mentally just calms down your system.
Also yay for ritalin. I can give a 4 hour lecture when I'm hooked on diz shiz.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131785 - 04/24/12 04:27 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Once I realized no one in college actually gave a fuck what I was talking about, it became a lot easier.  Talk how you normally would and don't memorize a fucking thing. If you forget one phrase, you're screwed. Just bring in a rough outline and you'll do much better.
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Once I realized no one in college actually gave a fuck what I was talking about, it became a lot easier. Talk how you normally would and don't memorize a fucking thing. If you forget one phrase, you're screwed. Just bring in a rough outline and you'll do much better.
This is how I passed my public speaking req. It might or might not be for you. I've seen threads like this one before on this forum so you aren't alone. I might have had it easier because I was at community college and there were not many fine bitches in there.
This reminded me of one of the last speeches this middle aged dude in my public speaking class gave. It was a condensed form of an Ancient Aliens special complete with Pyramids, Nazca symbols and everything. It was pretty legit.
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Quote:
wildernessjunkie said:
Now I look back on a lot of the things I've done in life, and realize how critical those hated classes were in my development as a person. Every great job I've ever had was a direct result of the skills I learned in those classes.
If you ever hope to perform from a position of leadership, then you will need to learn to speak with authority, and hold peoples attention. It sucks at first, but gets easier and easier each time you do it.
One thing that helped me speak from a position of power, is to realize that everyone in room is there to hear what you have to say. That means that they already respect you, and want to hear your opinion or idea. When you speak, it is you who are the authority on the subject, or there would be no audience.
The more you fear it the worse it will be for you. You can do it, is just going to be uncomfortable. But I would say that this is one of the best things that can help you developed as a person.
The first two weeks of lecture had me pumped up on the subject. I had a grasp of how powerful mastering this art can be.
"It sucks at first..." The problem is I never had a first. I had the idea of what your saying; that if I could get up there every speech after would come easier and more smoothly. I just flipped out when it came my time though. For me, I've heard of people having panic attacks and thought that it was just chalked up to weakness or not having a solid ground on your mind, but I felt it legitimately. Its beyond uncomfortable, it's incapacitating... I understand now.
Its more than fear and being anxious, and if your like me you won't understand it unless you have felt it. Thanks for the advice and encouragement! I definitely agree this will help me develop as a person and I certainly want to sink my teeth into it. Just gonna need a little help to get my body up there.
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I must not Fear. Fear is the mindkiller . Fear is the little-death that
brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over and
through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. ONLY I WILL REMAIN.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131883 - 04/24/12 05:05 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Can you actually get Xanax prescribed if you use that excuse?
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: Bawks]
#16131983 - 04/24/12 06:53 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Can you actually get Xanax prescribed if you use that excuse?
oh shroomery, u so druggy 
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16131990 - 04/24/12 07:00 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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NIMH said:
So I know everyone gets at least a little anxious when having to speak in front of a crowd, and I don't want to belittle that, but shit do I have major issues with it.
To get my degree I have to take a public speaking class. I've put it off until my last two semesters. Finally registered for it, sat through the lectures, and then tonight I have my first speech. I'm completely prepared, know it by heart, my name is called, I stand up and basically panic. I grab all my shit and walk out of the classroom. Bleh...
I need the class to graduate and after tonight I've all but dropped this one. Gonna make an appointment with my doctor tomorrow see if I can get something to get me through the panic attacks.
Drugs are definately the push you need. You might not get the A but at least you'll do the speech
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#1 Most people are more afraid of public speaking, than they are of death.True story, its a statistic
I call BS on this. I would love to see a source. Personally I've never found public speaking difficult at all.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NWlight]
#16132468 - 04/24/12 11:32 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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NWlight said:
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Bawks said:
Can you actually get Xanax prescribed if you use that excuse?
oh shroomery, u so druggy
No, I actually have pretty bad anxiety. I failed my speech class the first time around because of it. I just didn't know it was so easily prescribed because I was never recommended by my psychiatrist.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: NIMH]
#16132514 - 04/24/12 11:43 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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OP, you don't need drugs to do this unless you actually have a serious mental issue that needs to get worked through. If that is the case drugs are not going to solve your problems entirely although they can help.
Public speaking is hard for people? I don't know, I've never had much of a problem with it. You can talk to people normally right? Just do that. Doesn't matter if the room has 3 people in it or 300. Just make eye contact with people one person at a time. After a few seconds of eye contact the most likely reaction is for the person to look away because they feel uncomfortable about being singled out of a crowd. This allows you to take control of your audience because you can more effectively communicate with people while making eye contact, it helps relax you when they look away, and you control the room when you can dictate how people react to you and your speech. Its the exact opposite when you allow the stares of 300 people to scare you. You need to just focus on the crowd and talk to each of them during your speech, one person at a time.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: SlashOZ]
#16132526 - 04/24/12 11:47 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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I agree. I get the jitters before doing public speaking - the only time it bugs me is when I have to do it on the spot, like when I was asked to my drag my ass in front of my union hall (impromptu) to tell folks about a workshop, while I was hungover as piss. 
I try and treat public speaking like a conversation, only with more people.
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Re: Public speaking break down. [Re: Brennus] 3
#16132577 - 04/24/12 12:01 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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All these "drugs with fix all your problems" people make me sick. You don't need benzos, booze, or drugs to give a speech to a bunch of college aged slags who are going to be daydreaming the whole time anyways... you need to man up, grow a set of balls, and change your mindset.
I took a public speaking class in college too... number one, make friends with as many people in the class as you can so that it doesn't feel like you're giving a speech to "strangers" and number two grow a set of nuts and do your speech. Because being a fucking man is going to be a lot more beneficial to your "anxiety" in the long run than going to the doctor for benzos.
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So I know everyone gets at least a little anxious when having to speak in front of a crowd, and I don't want to belittle that, but shit do I have major issues with it.
You're not special dude. The first few times I gave public speeches I had knees so wobbly I could hardly stand, heart beating out of my chest, panic attacks, the whole 9 yards. I think the majority of people experience this. These days I can give a speech with relatively little problem because at this point I have countless experiences under my belt. My point is that when faced with a scary situation it's better the face it than run away with your tail tucked between your legs.
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