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Now I look back on a lot of the things I've done in life, and realize how critical those hated classes were in my development as a person. Every great job I've ever had was a direct result of the skills I learned in those classes.

If you ever hope to perform from a position of leadership, then you will need to learn to speak with authority, and hold peoples attention. It sucks at first, but gets easier and easier each time you do it.

One thing that helped me speak from a position of power, is to realize that everyone in room is there to hear what you have to say. That means that they already respect you, and want to hear your opinion or idea. When you speak, it is you who are the authority on the subject, or there would be no audience.

The more you fear it the worse it will be for you. You can do it, is just going to be uncomfortable. But I would say that this is one of the best things that can help you developed as a person.

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So I know everyone gets at least a little anxious when having to speak in front of a crowd, and I don't want to belittle that, but shit do I have major issues with it.

To get my degree I have to take a public speaking class.  I've put it off until my last two semesters.  Finally registered for it, sat through the lectures, and then tonight I have my first speech.  I'm completely prepared, know it by heart, my name is called, I stand up and basically panic.  I grab all my shit and walk out of the classroom. Bleh...

I need the class to graduate and after tonight I've all but dropped this one. Gonna make an appointment with my doctor tomorrow see if I can get something to get me through the panic attacks.

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OP, you don't need drugs to do this unless you actually have a serious mental issue that needs to get worked through. If that is the case drugs are not going to solve your problems entirely although they can help.

Public speaking is hard for people? I don't know, I've never had much of a problem with it. You can talk to people normally right? Just do that. Doesn't matter if the room has 3 people in it or 300. Just make eye contact with people one person at a time. After a few seconds of eye contact the most likely reaction is for the person to look away because they feel uncomfortable about being singled out of a crowd. This allows you to take control of your audience because you can more effectively communicate with people while making eye contact, it helps relax you when they look away, and you control the room when you can dictate how people react to you and your speech. Its the exact opposite when you allow the stares of 300 people to scare you. You need to just focus on the crowd and talk to each of them during your speech, one person at a time.

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OP, you don't need drugs to do this unless you actually have a serious mental issue that needs to get worked through. If that is the case drugs are not going to solve your problems entirely although they can help.

Public speaking is hard for people? I don't know, I've never had much of a problem with it. You can talk to people normally right? Just do that. Doesn't matter if the room has 3 people in it or 300. Just make eye contact with people one person at a time. After a few seconds of eye contact the most likely reaction is for the person to look away because they feel uncomfortable about being singled out of a crowd. This allows you to take control of your audience because you can more effectively communicate with people while making eye contact, it helps relax you when they look away, and you control the room when you can dictate how people react to you and your speech. Its the exact opposite when you allow the stares of 300 people to scare you. You need to just focus on the crowd and talk to each of them during your speech, one person at a time.

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OP, you don't need drugs to do this unless you actually have a serious mental issue that needs to get worked through. If that is the case drugs are not going to solve your problems entirely although they can help.

Public speaking is hard for people? I don't know, I've never had much of a problem with it. You can talk to people normally right? Just do that. Doesn't matter if the room has 3 people in it or 300. Just make eye contact with people one person at a time. After a few seconds of eye contact the most likely reaction is for the person to look away because they feel uncomfortable about being singled out of a crowd. This allows you to take control of your audience because you can more effectively communicate with people while making eye contact, it helps relax you when they look away, and you control the room when you can dictate how people react to you and your speech. Its the exact opposite when you allow the stares of 300 people to scare you. You need to just focus on the crowd and talk to each of them during your speech, one person at a time.

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so, what the fuck is your point? that OP should take drugs?

are all phobias cured with drugs?

i have a fear of water and yet i'm still a river guide in the summer. I conquered my fear by facing it *gasp*. OP should conquer theirs as well instead of taking the easy way out like a fucking coward. No offense OP but seriously, prescription drugs are not the answer unless there is an actually condition at play that requires the administration of drugs. being uncomfortable with speaking in public affects everyone. this does not mean everyone needs drugs to speak in public effectively or without fear. with practice you can learn. gather a few friends and practice on them before giving a speech in front of your class. there are literally thousands of ways to conquer your fear of public speaking without resulting to drugs. odds are the drugs wont help anyways and even if you make it past this class you will still have not learned or accomplished anything other than taking drugs. why not make an effort to better yourself instead of just masking the problem with drugs?

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Have you ever been to college/ He is in his last semester and is probably doing more work now than his whole time there. He doesn't have time to sit up and stress about public speaking. Get drunk get the C and move on.

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Have you ever been to college/ He is in his last semester and is probably doing more work now than his whole time there. He doesn't have time to sit up and stress about public speaking. Get drunk get the C and move on.

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Public speaking/being able to effectively communicate with other people is a skill that will be useful for your entire life. I know it's "just" a college class but it would be much better for this guy in the long run if he grew some balls and tried to learn something instead of taking drugs and squeaking by with a C.

Most people are put in stressful situations similar to this as some point or another... job interviews, work presentations, ect, ect. His college major program probably requires this class for a reason (because he will be expected to communicate with people in the workforce) and taking the first steps to conquering that fear in a college class where people don't give a shit to begin with is probably the best place to do so.



College is more about trying to improve yourself than it is about getting a passing grade. Take the opportunity to actually get some skills out of your college experience; especially if you're paying money to be there...

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LoL "opportunity to improve yourself"

So confused

There are basic "gen eds" every major has to take to graduate. Trust me the teacher has seen plenty of kids before that refuse to speak in front of people. He's not gonna count you down for effort.

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Thats the problem with benzos but people might spot you've had a drink. Use what public speakers use - beta-blockers. It doesn't fuck you up mentally just calms down your system.

Also yay for ritalin. I can give a 4 hour lecture when I'm hooked on diz shiz.

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Have you ever been to college/ He is in his last semester and is probably doing more work now than his whole time there. He doesn't have time to sit up and stress about public speaking. Get drunk get the C and move on.

I have an irrational fear of heights. Carney rides scare me more than than loaded guns pointed at me. It makes no sense but some of us just have irrational mental quirks. Apparently speaking in front of people is this guys. Taking some xanies or founding a few beers before it will level him out.

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First off, I have been to college and the workload for undergrad is anything but stressful. If undergrad stresses you out then you'll probably fail at life because undergrad is barely harder than high school. Oh and guess what? Stress is a part of life and you better learn to deal with it rather than just running away and taking drugs.

Second, I have irrational fears as well. Guess what? I've faced them and tried to conquer them. If you're going to bother responding to me then at least read my posts ffs.

Third, OP would be way better off to learn the skill of public speaking than he would be by just taking drugs and trying to skim by.


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Have you ever been to college/ He is in his last semester and is probably doing more work now than his whole time there. He doesn't have time to sit up and stress about public speaking. Get drunk get the C and move on.

I have an irrational fear of heights. Carney rides scare me more than than loaded guns pointed at me. It makes no sense but some of us just have irrational mental quirks. Apparently speaking in front of people is this guys. Taking some xanies or founding a few beers before it will level him out.

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First off, I have been to college and the workload for undergrad is anything but stressful. If undergrad stresses you out then you'll probably fail at life because undergrad is barely harder than high school. Oh and guess what? Stress is a part of life and you better learn to deal with it rather than just running away and taking drugs.

Second, I have irrational fears as well. Guess what? I've faced them and tried to conquer them. If you're going to bother responding to me then at least read my posts ffs.

Third, OP would be way better off to learn the skill of public speaking than he would be by just taking drugs and trying to skim by.


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Have you ever been to college/ He is in his last semester and is probably doing more work now than his whole time there. He doesn't have time to sit up and stress about public speaking. Get drunk get the C and move on.

I have an irrational fear of heights. Carney rides scare me more than than loaded guns pointed at me. It makes no sense but some of us just have irrational mental quirks. Apparently speaking in front of people is this guys. Taking some xanies or founding a few beers before it will level him out.

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First off, I have been to college and the workload for undergrad is anything but stressful. If undergrad stresses you out then you'll probably fail at life because undergrad is barely harder than high school. Oh and guess what? Stress is a part of life and you better learn to deal with it rather than just running away and taking drugs.

Second, I have irrational fears as well. Guess what? I've faced them and tried to conquer them. If you're going to bother responding to me then at least read my posts ffs.

Third, OP would be way better off to learn the skill of public speaking than he would be by just taking drugs and trying to skim by.


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All these "drugs with fix all your problems" people make me sick.  You don't need benzos, booze, or drugs to give a speech to a bunch of college aged slags who are going to be daydreaming the whole time anyways... you need to man up, grow a set of balls, and change your mindset.

I took a public speaking class in college too... number one, make friends with as many people in the class as you can so that it doesn't feel like you're giving a speech to "strangers" and number two grow a set of nuts and do your speech. Because being a fucking man is going to be a lot more beneficial to your "anxiety" in the long run than going to the doctor for benzos.

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You're not special dude. The first few times I gave public speeches I had knees so wobbly I could hardly stand, heart beating out of my chest, panic attacks, the whole 9 yards. I think the majority of people experience this. These days I can give a speech with relatively little problem because at this point I have countless experiences under my belt. My point is that when faced with a scary situation it's better the face it than run away with your tail tucked between your legs.

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Lol, yeah of course you aren't going to answer that question directly.  "Undergrad is barely more work than high school.  If you're stressed out by college workload you'll fail at life."  You have no fucking clue what you're talking about and the fact that you just generalized so epicly set you up to fail.  That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard on here.  Some colleges will bust your balls hard, especially depending on the major.

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  "You don't know me!"  You belong on Jerry Springer or fuckin Maury dude.  I said not to take the benzos you dipshit.  Nor did I say that college is too hard for me or woe is me.  Get a fucking grip, learn to read, and quit being a dickhead.  I am in college and I have 3.85 gpa so suck it.  I'm just saying that your mentality that someone is stressed about college so they'll fail at life or are weak is retarded.  I didn't say I'm an expert on how hard college is but you act like you are, and just because someone might struggle with the workload doesn't mean they're going to fail.  Fucking retarded.  Loving your remarks, especially now that I see on your profile your AIM name is: xmethadonex.  FUCK DRUGS! 

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All these "drugs with fix all your problems" people make me sick.  You don't need benzos, booze, or drugs to give a speech to a bunch of college aged slags who are going to be daydreaming the whole time anyways... you need to man up, grow a set of balls, and change your mindset.

I took a public speaking class in college too... number one, make friends with as many people in the class as you can so that it doesn't feel like you're giving a speech to "strangers" and number two grow a set of nuts and do your speech. Because being a fucking man is going to be a lot more beneficial to your "anxiety" in the long run than going to the doctor for benzos.

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You can't tell me that majoring in neuroscience is just as easy as psychology... or that advanced science classes are barely above high school. It's just not true. Even if you were an overachiever who took all AP classes in high school, that's still just preparation for the college learning that WILL break your balls.

I have no idea what advanced psychology classes are like however, but my friend is about to graduate with a B.S. in psychology and she doesn't use any skills I don't have to use for entry-level college writing courses. By the same token, a B.S. in a hard science requires the development of a broad range of abstract thinking techniques, which do not come overnight and stubbornly resist intuition.

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all i wanted to do with my posts was try to get the OP to succeed at public speaking. even if some majors are harder than others it shouldn't mean that you should mail in a class and just take drugs and get a C and not try. that was my point. I've tried to offer as much advice about public speaking as I can.

go back and read my response to your question about my major, its unedited btw. that was my intent. i got derailed by some random poster and started posting things i did not come into this thread to do. so i deleted them.

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LoL "opportunity to improve yourself"

So confused

There are basic "gen eds" every major has to take to graduate. Trust me the teacher has seen plenty of kids before that refuse to speak in front of people. He's not gonna count you down for effort.

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I graduated college and actually took a public speaking class. I was in the same situation as the OP but sticking to it and finishing it help build my confidence tremendously. Once again it is a very good life skill to have beyond college. 

Most employers don't give a shit what your grades are unless your GPA is something atrocious. Employers care about the skills you have to offer them. If you go to college and your only selling point is your grades and not your skills then you're going to be up shits creek. And they sure as fuck aren't going to give a shit about you in the first place if you are so nervous you can't even talk to them during an interview without running out of the room or pounding a bunch of beers before hand. That's where this all ties back into being useful beyond just getting a passing grade.

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Every heard of an honors program? Summa cum laude?

Employers do give a fuck

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