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 blingbling
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 Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones 
#16130235 - 04/23/12 10:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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a friend of mine told me of a dream she had a while back that i find very interesting. before she had the dream her then boyfriend was going on holiday to Canada. her dream consisted of her walking around the street holding her boyfriends detached penis. she said that in the dream she was even speaking to friends as if everything was normal, letting the penis rest on the living-room table. in her dream she lost the penis and spent a long time trying to find it to no avail.
i think this dream can tell us something very important about how we interact with our loved-ones. the key to this analysis is at what point the dream was violently interrupted. it was not the unattached penis that caused her anxiety but the loss of the penis, the loss of control. she did not dream that she had ripped his penis off but this can be assumed if she has the unattached penis in her hand.
essentially what this dream tells us is that psychologically we devour our loved-ones, absorb them into our self's, making them part of our self's and our need to control. the violence of her possessing her boyfriends penis doesn't even register because to her it is her penis, a part of her. the violence act is the loss of the penis, him getting his penis back and her losing control.
i think that this dream shows that on a deep psychological level love is a violent act. we forcibly absorb our loved-ones into our sense of self and then selfishly control them. we eat them up to make us bigger, to make our self's stronger and more durable. this kind of psychological phenomena is not isolated to women. men show the same characteristics. what is your opinion on this analysis? i would be very interested if anyone has some other examples of psychological devouring of loved-ones or dreams of this nature.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16130253 - 04/23/12 10:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with the analysis up until you call love a violent act. I think calling it violent is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: 4896744]
#16130325 - 04/23/12 10:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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you'll see that i qualified that statement with "on a deep psychological level". i don't believe that love is overtly violent but i do believe that somewhere deep in our monkey brains the wires that separate love and violence are crossed. you may be right though.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16130361 - 04/23/12 10:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Ya, I get your point. I personally wouldn't go so far as too describe it as violent beyond the shock value that it provides.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16130363 - 04/23/12 10:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well it's not really love now is it? I've been making that distinction here for years.
"you always hate the one you love" - joe cool.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: 4896744]
#16130369 - 04/23/12 10:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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i'm all about cheap thrills 
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Icelander]
#16130373 - 04/23/12 10:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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what would you call it?
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16130400 - 04/23/12 10:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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at best like and at worst addiction
mostly a combo
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"People convince themselves of their own lies, becoming victims of their own inventions as they begin to direct their lives by standards of behavior, ideas, feelings, or instincts which do not correspond to their inner reality. What is truly serious in this matter is that the individual loses all points of reference regarding what comprises truth, and what comprises lies. He becomes used to considering as true only that which is convenient for his personal interests; everything that is in opposition to his self-esteem or in conflict with already established prejudices, he considers false."
- John Baines
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16130457 - 04/23/12 10:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I really agree with this. Love is and always has been the game of power, domination and violence. I do enjoy this game however, but honestly have to admit, trying to create spawn is not without it's perils.
I pity those who believe in fairy tale love. Walt was a liar and I personally think he has alot of explaining to do.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Jwlst]
#16130481 - 04/23/12 10:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Why do people think that beastiality is cute? If my daughter was banging a wild animal...
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Icelander]
#16130485 - 04/23/12 10:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
at best like and at worst addiction
mostly a combo
Like pepperoni and mushroom?
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Icelander]
#16131531 - 04/24/12 02:51 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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then what is love?
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: blingbling]
#16132067 - 04/24/12 08:03 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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It's an illusion we use to justify our existence and separate from our animalness and death.
You've heard the silly hallmark sayings that "love never dies" "love goes on" etc.
At best love is a benchmark for certain behaviors' we value in society. Love your wife and kids means don't abuse them and injure the balance of society. And it can only balance due to our animal natures.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Icelander]
#16133140 - 04/24/12 02:38 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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What is love? Baby don't hurt me..don't hurt me..no more.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Kupo]
#16134397 - 04/24/12 07:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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yes, penis dreams are easy to interpret.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: MistyMystic]
#16137699 - 04/25/12 01:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
i think that this dream shows that on a deep psychological level love is a violent act. we forcibly absorb our loved-ones into our sense of self and then selfishly control them. we eat them up to make us bigger, to make our self's stronger and more durable. this kind of psychological phenomena is not isolated to women. men show the same characteristics. what is your opinion on this analysis? i would be very interested if anyone has some other examples of psychological devouring of loved-ones or dreams of this nature.
Do you think that this applies to everyone, or just you yourself? 
I have felt, having thought back on past relationships, that I had done something very similar to others. When I saw that pattern I did everything I could to change it. I don't make the same mistakes anymore. Its just a feeling / way of thinking that you grow beyond (hopefully)
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Icelander]
#16139524 - 04/25/12 10:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Do you think that this applies to everyone, or just you yourself?
actually i think this applies far less to me than to most people but that may just be some form of self-serving bias. i also think that my hostility towards psychologically devouring people may actually be detrimental because it allows for a less stable sense of self and confusion in regards to my commitments to my loved-ones. if there was no separation between my sense of self and my loved-ones then there would be no confusing my commitments towards my-self/their-self. i think psychological devouring is to some degree healthy and normal.
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Icelander said:
It's an illusion we use to justify our existence and separate from our animalness and death.
You've heard the silly hallmark sayings that "love never dies" "love goes on" etc.
At best love is a benchmark for certain behaviors' we value in society. Love your wife and kids means don't abuse them and injure the balance of society. And it can only balance due to our animal natures.
i feel that the type of love presented in the op is far less of an illusion than what you are talking about which i would call "true love".
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16139554 - 04/25/12 10:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Why do people think that beastiality is cute? If my daughter was banging a wild animal...
Would you rather her bang plants and fungus then? Or are domesticated animals ok?
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Re: Dream of a lost penis: how we devour our loved-ones [Re: Jwlst]
#16142953 - 04/26/12 05:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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actually i think this applies far less to me than to most people but that may just be some form of self-serving bias. i also think that my hostility towards psychologically devouring people may actually be detrimental because it allows for a less stable sense of self and confusion in regards to my commitments to my loved-ones. if there was no separation between my sense of self and my loved-ones then there would be no confusing my commitments towards my-self/their-self. i think psychological devouring is to some degree healthy and normal.
I like this a lot 
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"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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