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25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter????
    #16123358 - 04/22/12 06:56 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Ok as a warning- am fairly new to terms for psychedelics- but I am trying to get some 25c-NBOMe to try because have never tried it yet.  BUT i am a little confused on dosage.


The vendor i am looking at says 20 milligrams of 25C-NBOMe HCL costs the same as Five pieces of blotter each with 600 micrograms on them.

I understand that 20 milligrams = 20,000 micrograms and
600 micrograms times 5 is 3,000 micrograms

My question- Is 25C-NBOMe stronger(more potent) in the liquid, blotter form or in the powdered HCL form??  Because that is a huge difference for the same price.

If anyone has any dosage information for both Powdered 25C-NBOMe HCL and blotter 25C-NBOMe I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #16123427 - 04/22/12 07:36 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

They should be equally potent.  If the blotters are complexed, it would make the 25i-NBOMe on them more bioavailable for which I would be able to understand some price difference but it shouldn't make them seven times more expensive.  There has to be some breakdown in communication somewhere.  If not then I need to find your vendor.  Time for Google to do some work

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: tr20josh]
    #16123442 - 04/22/12 07:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Unless you have a proper scale and the training to handle powerful drugs in amounts less than 1 milligram, please do not mess with the raw powder.  Unlike LSD, this stuff can kill you if you get the dose wrong.  Multiple reports are turning up of seizures including grand mal seizures from people who don't know what they are doing trying to eyeball 1 milligram doses.

Stick to the blotters laid by others so you don't poison yourself please.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: biffhenderson]
    #16131504 - 04/24/12 12:45 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

First of all you need to find out if the blotter is complexed. assuming it is, they should be about the same.

nbome chems are dangerous and not worth it in my opinion. save your brain the damage and wait for good L at a festy or something.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16131510 - 04/24/12 12:47 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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nbome chems are dangerous and not worth it in my opinion. save your brain the damage and wait for good L at a festy or something.




Bull shit.


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Bawks]
    #16131632 - 04/24/12 01:30 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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nbome chems are dangerous and not worth it in my opinion. save your brain the damage and wait for good L at a festy or something.




Bull shit.





To each his own. I guess "brain damage" is a hasty word to use, but I could not find much good in the series, with the exclusion of my first experience with 25i. Id love to hear more on your point of view. They just feel "damaging". Not saying they are, but they just outright feel bad to me.

Mescaline-nbome was a real letdown, after all the effort it took to find it

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16131672 - 04/24/12 01:43 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I couldn't tell ya since I haven't ever had any type of nbome, and I've only had LSD once. I just felt the need to call you out since there aren't any facts (that I know of) to back up what you said. :tongue:


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Bawks]
    #16131682 - 04/24/12 01:47 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I couldn't tell ya since I haven't ever had any type of nbome, and I've only had LSD once. I just felt the need to call you out since there aren't any facts (that I know of) to back up what you said. :tongue:





Thats why I stated it as my opinion. 25i is the only one ive experienced that is decent at all and decent might be stretching it. but I think maybe it could just be the underlying mental tone that I know its an unresearched chem and maybe it sketches me out and ruins the experience. I dunno.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16131708 - 04/24/12 01:57 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Thats why I stated it as my opinion.




I meant the second part of what you said. I agree on it being dangerous. They're RCs and using them for recreational purposes is risky.


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Bawks]
    #16131744 - 04/24/12 02:11 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly, if you've only done LSD once and are fairly new to psychedelics, why are you reaching our for some hardcore RC's? They are plenty of "safer" choices, RC's aren't bad, I've done a few, but its seems fairly odd your not expanding on the basics, before branching off into the wild unknown


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Methodology]
    #16131750 - 04/24/12 02:14 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

In hindsight I believe
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Methodology said:
Honestly, if you've only done LSD once and are fairly new to psychedelics, why are you reaching our for some hardcore RC's? They are plenty of "safer" choices, RC's aren't bad, I've done a few, but its seems fairly odd your not expanding on the basics, before branching off into the wild unknown





For a while I was in "RC" mode because of a lack of mdma or lsd around my region(NE US)

I believe the appeal lies in a product that is significantly more pure and cheaper.

For instance, the purity of moonrocks ive had dont hold a candle to the purity of various cathinones and other stims. And yes, I have had access to NMR data for a good amount of those chems.

Also, all the "L" going around my town and surrounding areas are DOX or 25I-nbome. The man with a legit L connect is a lucky man.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16131764 - 04/24/12 02:19 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The OP didn't say how many times he has used LSD. I think you got my post confused as his.


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Bawks] * 1
    #16131781 - 04/24/12 02:25 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

possibly. im high as shit right now.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Bawks]
    #16131787 - 04/24/12 02:28 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

oh snap, well even still, it seems odd, but then again when I started, I tried to get my hands on anything... Now I know better, you know moderation is good for RC's, cause for all you know they aren't recreational, and can have serious ******* side effects farther down the road, but its your body and your mind, and to hell if I can tell you what to get messed up on


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Methodology]
    #16131803 - 04/24/12 02:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I think OP should go for the blotter, I cannot reccommend working with a powder chem that potent without very expensive scales and a magnetic stirrer. Dosing by diluting in water to achieve a ml/ug ratio would work, but only do this if you have your math down. Ive heard people have problems getting 25i to dissolve completely in water without a magnetic stirrer.

And then eat ONE tab. then work your dose from that first experience, but 1-2 should have you set.

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16131814 - 04/24/12 02:37 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Take the tabs, unless you feel like dishing out some serious cash for a ug scale, at least with the blotter its pre-made to f u up


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: Methodology]
    #16132038 - 04/24/12 05:44 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

right i know which vendor you are looking at and if u get 20mg that is enough for 40 hits at 500mics a hit ....simple .... get a 10ml eye dropper .... empty the contents fill it back up with water and wash it out a few times .....then measure out 10ml of distilled water in a suitable dish where its easy enough to fill the eye dropper up with the liquid drop your 20mg of 25c-nbome into the water make sure it is fully dissolved (no lumps ect) then put the 25c/ water solution into the eye dropper....now if u got bang on 20mg 4 drops (2 in each nostril) will be 500mics ..... but just incase they messed up the powder n gave you more (very easy to do with such a small amount) tust incase that is the case start with 1 or 2 drops ONLY!! wait 30 mins or so if its not intense enough then dose another 1 or 2 drops and do this until desired effects.


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: bolton-liberty-cap]
    #16132675 - 04/24/12 10:25 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Sweet thanks, that sounds like a plan! 

And to answer someone elses reply, i am not new to psychedelics, i am just looking for different methods of tripping because i right now i use 4-aco-dmt and i have a hard time with the anxiety when it is coming on.  I never had this anxiety to this  extent on mescaline so i figured since 25C-NBOMe is a phenethylmine, i would look into it:thumbup:

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #16132681 - 04/24/12 10:27 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

and what does complexed mean???

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #16132741 - 04/24/12 10:42 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

and on the site it says that it is 600mcg 1x1cm - 5 pieces is 40$  Can someone clarify this please?  Sorry for all the questions, I just want to be sure

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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #16132779 - 04/24/12 10:54 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no worries and basically uncomplexed nbome isnt that absorbent because of the structure of the chemical and if u comblex it with another chemical (forgot the name) then it makes it easier for the nbome to be absorbed through buccual or sublingual thats all it is :smile: but if u make that liquid solution it hits faster and harder than a complexed blotter


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Re: 25C-NBOMe HCl vs. Blotter???? [Re: mukhail]
    #16132972 - 04/24/12 11:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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mukhail said:
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Bawks said:
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mukhail said:
nbome chems are dangerous and not worth it in my opinion. save your brain the damage and wait for good L at a festy or something.




Bull shit.





To each his own. I guess "brain damage" is a hasty word to use, but I could not find much good in the series, with the exclusion of my first experience with 25i. Id love to hear more on your point of view. They just feel "damaging". Not saying they are, but they just outright feel bad to me.

Mescaline-nbome was a real letdown, after all the effort it took to find it



Ive had so many meaningfull  amazing visual trips on 25i and i actually like it just as much as LSD, they really arent the same at all but i Love both 25i and LSD equally.I think the reason you feel your getting more "brain damage" is because with 25i the 5-HT2A receptors in the brain has an amazingly high connection much more strong then any other drug. However that does not directly translate into you getting more brain damage.
With 25c-nbome i have no comment


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