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 WTF this is wierd 
#16120006 - 04/21/12 02:06 PM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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is this cantam? this is just wierd. what do you think? What are the risks involved eating the fruits off this?
If you look close you see pins
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Synapse Trap
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give it some time.. fungus is just that.. a fungus, and sometimes it looks weird.
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Looks like mutants for me 
they are fine to eat
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Is it pe? from what I've read pe first flush often has a lot of mutants. Nothing wrong with them though.
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Re: WTF this is wierd [Re: Mr White]
#16120081 - 04/21/12 02:27 PM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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If that yellow spot becomes brighter yellow or pinkish it might be fusarium which is a yeast. In the mushroom cultivator by stamets it says "fusarium can cause some real nasty shit, they named a disease after one type" (dont quote me  ) so dont eat them or keep them around if they get more colorful. The pic is not very crisp or id give you better advice. Good luck
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captjet23
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I have a whole casing that is doing this on top. It grew some rhizo at first, which came up, started knotting, then pinned, and they all aborted. Then that knotted myc turned blue and some THICK white puffy myc came up and got to the top and turned yellow/brown over the top a little. I think it's just the myc not having anywhere else to go, and not wanting to fruit because conditions arent right. The myc finally went back to fruiting stage and is now pinning a bit, but the discoloration is still there 
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Quote:
spiritlands said:
If that yellow spot becomes brighter yellow or pinkish it might be fusarium which is a yeast. In the mushroom cultivator by stamets it says "fusarium can cause some real nasty shit, they named a disease after one type" (dont quote me ) so dont eat them or keep them around if they get more colorful. The pic is not very crisp or id give you better advice. Good luck
What can Fusarium cause?
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Quote:
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What can Fusarium cause?
cancer
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Re: WTF this is weird [Re: elkart]
#16122682 - 04/22/12 02:50 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Throughout history Fusarium molds have been responsible for disese of major proportions. Usually the cause has been bread made from poorly wintered grain. In regions of the Ukraine, Eastern Siberia, and central Asia, the disease caused by this fungus was called "Staggering Sickness" for its symptoms of vertigo, bleeding, headaches, chills, and nausea. In a Soviet province during World War II, a single outbreak casued the deaths of nearly 30,000 people.
The Mushroom Cultivator, page 282.
Apparently the US military showed some interest in this fungus as a biological weapon.
Your pictures looks like pretty normal tho. Fusarium looks like "extensive, fast growing, whitish cottony mycelium which can remain white or become pigmented" (TMC P. 281).
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Re: WTF this is wierd [Re: elkart]
#16122696 - 04/22/12 02:58 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Fusarium only produces mycotoxins on grains which even if there was some on the brf in the cake somewhere, it wouldn't be absorbed by the mushrooms.
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Re: WTF this is wierd [Re: Kizzle]
#16122951 - 04/22/12 04:59 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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it also has been know to enter the body and live in the central nervous system. can have pretty debilitating effects apparently. its not about if the myc absorbs the toxins.
your pic does look pretty normal. idk, for some reason I wasnt viewing them properly. there are terribly contammed corn supplies where i live and ive seen fusarium many times. it always came on as light yellow similar to metabolites. the substrate is already colonized so i cant say anything about the mycelium. it basically looks like a yellow slightly slimy area, like the dingy tinted right part of your cake, then the color deepens into reds and the substrate stalls. I changed my grain and havent seen it since.
you are probably just fine. but that is how it starts when ive seen it. yellow pink and red contams are no good. I seemed to get it after dunks when it had to recover. sorry for bringin it up. how are your mutant pins doing now?
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Methodology
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I think your cake looks good, its kinda like a pre-fruiting stage
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mrmojoshroomin
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Looks like contamination to me, i dont if everyone else is looking @ the same picture i saw but, to ME it looks contaminated
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Here is a pic of it this morning. Looks better. Sounds like a risky chance even though I maybe over stressing it. BTW, I get the feeling that this looks like a battle between two hosts. I must note that after the dunk this cake was very fluffy white on top, unlike all the reast for a week than it turned to a brownish tan color.
  
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TweakerO
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what is that third picture? the same cake?
Anyway I had the same stuff and still do. I dunked a cake and it went all yelllowish/tan on top, where it was pinning. Now the pins are just hanging out for over a week, but not aborting just super snail mode.
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Re: WTF this is wierd [Re: TweakerO]
#16124314 - 04/22/12 03:16 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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The 3rd pic was just for fun :-)
So what are you going to do with your one cake that did the same thing ???
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TweakerO
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well right now, it's hanging in the FC. slowly pinning, I suppose, and hopefully getting ready to begin maturing into actual fruits. But I just left it to fruit in SGFC, didn't worry about cross contaminating the other cakes. So far so good, just not moving at the speed I've experienced before.
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