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Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today
    #15719669 - 01/26/12 07:52 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Assange due for show on RT

I find this very odd. As the more discerning amongst us know Julian Assange and Wikileaks are Assets of western intelligence community, specifically the George Soros funded psuedo left wing of it. In the same circles as the National Endowment for Democracy, Open Society Institute, Albert Einstien Institute and many more NGOs that are key to the CIA's colour revolution strategy. So why are the Russians hiring him for their own propaganda means? I really can't imagine that he's no longer the CIA's man and I don't think the Russians are stupid enough to not realise what Assange is, so what's going on?

If you don't realise that Wikileaks is CIA by now here's some food for thought;

Webster Tarpley on Wikileaks extract from World Crisis Radio

The first media article about Wikileaks was written by Cass Sunstein- Obama's "information regulation" czar- in the Washington Post titled A Brave New Wikiworld  in which he praises Wikileaks and mentions that it was founded by "dissidents in China and other nations", clearly with colour revolutions on the brain. Cass Sunstein has called for the "cognitive infiltration" of the 9/11 truth movement so it's no surprise that Assange says 9/11 truth "annoys" him.

Assange was indoctrinated into the Anne Hamilton-Byrne cult as a child, the children all had their hair grown long and bleached, they were given large quantities of LSD and locked in a dark room alone. Sounds like a perfect cover for the CIA's MK-Ultra mind control experimentation.

Who does Wikileaks target? Putin, Ahmadinejad, Gadaffi, Ben Ali, Mubarak, Chavez, Burlesconi, Assad, Maliki and on and on, all on the CIA's target list. Hillary Clinton's lack of sock/shoe colour coordination and Sarkozie's bizzare and shocking taste in icecream also take a blow but they have to throw some teasers in there. Where's the dirt on Isreal, or are the Isrealis squeeky clean?

Assange has boasted that he started the Tunisian colour revolution with the "leaks", in effect starting off the entire wave of destabilisations, invasions and sanctions that's now threatening war with Syria and Iran.

So what do you think? Please no ignorant trolling from Daily Show watchers. Thanks.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Batty Koda]
    #15720147 - 01/26/12 12:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I think this is just another example of Russia Today's transparent effort to highlight any and all muck related to countries Russia has historically had testy relationships with, especially the US and UK.  Apparently they're willing to give crackpot truthers and anti-government UFO conspiracy theorists a spotlight in this pursuit, so its not at all surprising they'd give some airtime to someone who genuinely annoys the west and highlights their controversial misdeeds.

What I find somewhat boggling is that it seems relatively few people online are cognizant of Russia Today's rather obvious role as Putin's propoganda mouthpiece.  They should rename RT to something more apt, like "The worker's anti-imperialist revolutionary state news network", but maybe Putin just doesn't have the knack for Orwellian irony his predecessor administrations did.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: johnm214]
    #15720283 - 01/26/12 12:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I think you've spotted half the picture but missed the rest. Sure RT is a mouthpiece of the Kremlin but Wikileaks is a mouthpiece of the western intelligence community. The curious thing is that both have come together for some reason.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Batty Koda]
    #15721260 - 01/26/12 05:36 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Hey Batty Koda, this is like a bookmark for now cause I aint got much time and would like to get into your thread later. Please can you link me to some good sources which expose the
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CIA's colour revolution strategy.


I have not heard of that before.

And you seem to presume that russia today aren't themselves? I saw a good video yesterday where Alex Ansary is talking (will try to link it when I have more time) and he said that he was supposed to be having an interview with Russia Today, but something odd happened when they knew he was going to be talking about and exposing the Transhumanism agenda of the elite! They cancelled the interview for one.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: zzripz]
    #15721930 - 01/26/12 08:12 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Fo sho zzripz here's the [url=
you were talking about[/url], I found from your description.

But on the topic of the "colour revolutions" I'll give you a quick overview of how I see it then give you some links that go into the details. Colour revolutions started out as attempts by the CIA to overthrow fairly pro-Russian governments in the ex Soviet sattelite states and replace them with pro NATO governments during the first half of the oughties. They had successes with the "roses revolution" in Georgia that installed the madman Saakashvili who attacked Russia in 2008, the "orange revolution" in Ukraine and the "tulip revolution" in krygyzstan but they failed with the "cedars revolution" in Lebanon.

After Obama's victory in the elections a guy called Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama's chief foriegn policy advisor decided to revive the old model of colour/flower revolution instead of the Bush Cheney policy of bombing to shit their enemies which discredited the US. he attempted to overthrow th Iranian government with the "green revolution" but failed. In late 2010 the CIA and their allies began a destabilisation/regime change offensive on a massive scale, this was dubbed by the media "the Arab Spring" it's goal was to overthrow as many governments as possible in Arab countries and replace them either with pro western governments or civil war and anarchy so independent Arab nation states could no longer put up resistance to Anglo-American imperialism.

The colour revolution strategy relies on western "non governmental oragisations" (NGOs) that are funded by bankers and speculators like George Soros and David Rockefeller. These organisations have very close ties to intelligence agencies, they put out fake news reports, they fake public opinion polls, they train and pay people to use the internet as a propoganda weapon and they organise mobs of swarming angry young people to protest against selected governments.

The west uses these protests as cover for ousting a government, they may threated leaders with assassination, sanctions, bombing and god knows what to get rid of them.

So here's some links;

The best guy to listen to about this topic, Webster Tarpley, he saw this coming in January straight after the overthrow of Ben Ali.

Tunisian Wikileaks Putsch: CIA Touts Mediterranean Tsunami of Coups

Article about the original colour revolutions

Iranian green revolution foriegn involvement

The case of "gay girl in Damascus" a man married to a women in the CIA posing as a lesbian in Damascus, the media were using his blog as their main source of info on the events in Syria.

I'll post some more links if you want some. Tarpley is defo the best source on this topic. Have a browse around Tarpley.net


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Batty Koda]
    #15788172 - 02/10/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Sure RT is a mouthpiece of the Kremlin but Wikileaks is a mouthpiece of the western intelligence community.





Do you have any evidence for that?


They are about to court martial their mouthpiece and send him to prison for 20 years to life.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15794350 - 02/11/12 09:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

A whistle blower exposing US war crimes is working for the CIA? I don't think I've herd something that stupid in a very very long time.:lolsy:


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Smokey420]
    #15794452 - 02/11/12 10:01 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

want to destabilize a country?
want to round up dissidents?
want to discover who your enemies are?

what better way than for the government to release alleged classified
documents that would be very damning for them


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15795157 - 02/12/12 12:04 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

What better way to cover up the truth, then with another dirty lie.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Smokey420]
    #16094052 - 04/15/12 06:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:bump:

Here's an update for those that missed it... the debut is this week.

15:30 Moscow time on April 17th
http://rt.com/news/assange-world-tomorrow-premier-date-time-934/

There's also a pre-show interview for those interested.

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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: johnm214]
    #16096800 - 04/16/12 11:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I think this is just another example of Russia Today's transparent effort to highlight any and all muck related to countries Russia has historically had testy relationships with, especially the US and UK.  Apparently they're willing to give crackpot truthers and anti-government UFO conspiracy theorists a spotlight in this pursuit, so its not at all surprising they'd give some airtime to someone who genuinely annoys the west and highlights their controversial misdeeds.





I like russia today. Everything you said, if true, is fine. The same using of the media to push your agenda exsists here as well.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Hologram]
    #16100861 - 04/17/12 08:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Just been watching the first episode of Assange's show. Surprise surprise he is repeating the lies about Syria that the CIA/MI6/Mossad/DGSE want people to hear. He's pretending that the Free Syrian Army are "pro democracy protesters" who've been slaughtered by the bad guys in the Syrian military. In reality the Free Syrian Army is a collection of death squads funded by the US,UK,Qatar, Saudi Arabia, France, Isreal and more. They are there to murder army personel and civilians so that Western media can blame the deaths on Assad. The Syrian people want the government to do more to wipe out these foriegn backed terrorists, not less.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Batty Koda]
    #16101010 - 04/17/12 09:48 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

For those who are interested, here it is:


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: koraks]
    #16115925 - 04/20/12 01:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

its common knowledge in the eastern europe RT is a kremlin mouthpiece with zero credibility


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: b0red5tiff]
    #16116440 - 04/20/12 04:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Why is this is the C&C forum? lol.

this is headline news.

his interview with the hizballah leader was very good.

he didnt pander to him, he asked hard questions etc.

RT may be a kremlin mouthpiece, but they do have alot of credability.

western news is also a mouthpiece for their respective government.

all have mixed bags of credability and bullshit.

often if you watch all of them you can get a more complete picture of whats actually going on.

dont let blind nationalism blind you from a more complete understanding of the truth.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Shins]
    #16117838 - 04/20/12 10:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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RT may be a kremlin mouthpiece, but they do have alot of credability.




wow.  How do you claim this?  Who are they credible too?

I don't find credible orgnizations that purport to run news commentary and yet are funded by a single government and consistantly advance that government's position while diminishing unfriendly stories no matter how large.

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western news is also a mouthpiece for their respective government.




I asked you what the relevance of that was previously and you never responded.  Now I'm asking again. Russia today is just a propoganda agency, I fail to see what the existance of other propoganda agencies has to say about this fact.

I'd like to who your comparing Russia Today to as well.  The nemisis of RT, the US, has freedom of speech and news agencies that aren't surrepticiously funded by the government.  I don't know what kind of false parralels your trying to suggest here, but they certainly need to be established rather than presumed.


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all have mixed bags of credability and bullshit.




And yet they are, by and large, completley private enterprised that are free to do what they want and don't misrepresent themselves as government PR machines.  RT can't say that.

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dont let blind nationalism blind you from a more complete understanding of the truth.




Who here said anything nationalistic at all?  Anyone?

Sounds like a manufactured position you made up and argued against without establishing the truth or relevance- neither of which it seems to have.

And what is the basis for this mention of "understanding of the truth"?  Did anyone poison the well here or suggest RT wasn't capable of presenting the truth?  Not that I can see.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: johnm214]
    #16118203 - 04/21/12 12:07 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Lol john, youre a riot...

you cast doubt on their credibility earlier in the same post you claim no one did so.

aah good laughs... its funny watching you always desperately trying to discredit RT ad hominum.

have fun responding with more overly wordy psycho babble, its a hoot! :laugh:


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Shins]
    #16119200 - 04/21/12 07:43 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

i think westeners are very naive in understanding russia or its history and always view it through their western eyes. they dont understand its a whole different level of evil there. its a whole mafia state and its reality tunnel differs from the western one so people who are not really familiar with russia have a naive way of interpreting its affairs.


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: Shins]
    #16127607 - 04/23/12 10:27 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Why is this is the C&C forum? lol.

this is headline news.

his interview with the hizballah leader was very good.

he didnt pander to him, he asked hard questions etc.

RT may be a kremlin mouthpiece, but they do have alot of credability.

western news is also a mouthpiece for their respective government.

all have mixed bags of credability and bullshit.

often if you watch all of them you can get a more complete picture of whats actually going on.

dont let blind nationalism blind you from a more complete understanding of the truth.



I put it in the c and c section because I knew it would be moved here anyway. I 've just seen a quick preview of tuesdays program on RT, in it Assange attacks the European social safety nets. Yet another shocker. :eek:


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Re: Julian Assange gets show on Russia Today [Re: b0red5tiff]
    #16127669 - 04/23/12 10:55 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Lol john, youre a riot...

you cast doubt on their credibility earlier in the same post you claim no one did so.

aah good laughs... its funny watching you always desperately trying to discredit RT ad hominum.

have fun responding with more overly wordy psycho babble, its a hoot! :laugh:




You've failed to substantiate your factual claims and arguments that I've challenged and failed to answer the questions I've asked.  Until you can come up with some justification for your position, and can explain away the points that contradict your claim there's no point discussing it.

In the future it would be appreciated if you would let us know at the outset that you can't back up what your saying.

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i think westeners are very naive in understanding russia or its history and always view it through their western eyes. they dont understand its a whole different level of evil there. its a whole mafia state and its reality tunnel differs from the western one so people who are not really familiar with russia have a naive way of interpreting its affairs.




To a certain extent I think your correct.

I think a lot of the strange and baffling views on Russia and their propaganda networks is a result of westerners who value independent thought but aren't very knowledgeable about this subject.  To them the very notion of dissenting is an honorable one and thus they tend to form views that are contrarian- regardless of the facts.  This likely allows them to have a good self image and one they think would be appealing to others whos views they value.

Of course, as these are emotionally-supported positions chosen to support ones worldview and self image, its difficult to find sound reasoning to back them up.  You see that in this forum all the time- not just on this issue.  People have quite firm and contrarian positions but can't provide so much as an argument for their view.

Look at Shins in the above: he's made several posts in various forums supporting Russia Today but trys to argue against the obvious.  It is apparently not enough that RT is focusing on topics not covered by some other media, no, he has to defend their integrity itself, and goes so far as to claim some moral equivalence between RT and independent and free western news agencies that are free of government control.


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