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 Ginto
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 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? 
#16113640 - 04/19/12 11:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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What level of trip 1-5, and also equivalent to what amount of non-lemon teked shrooms?
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Ginto]
#16113643 - 04/19/12 11:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Depends what strain, but on Cubes i got a decent level 3.
Lemon tek always does it great for me 
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Parrott]
#16113688 - 04/19/12 11:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: werDehT]
#16113736 - 04/19/12 11:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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What is that supposed to mean?
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Ginto]
#16113919 - 04/20/12 12:07 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well the fist time shrooming i wouldnt lemon tek it the only bad shroom trip ive ever had i lemon teked it but thats besides the point if i were you i would just take the 2.5 no lemon just a suggestionn
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
#16113932 - 04/20/12 12:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Agreed. I only lemoned it once, and only a gram. Come up made me quite uncomfortable because it was so fast.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: werDehT]
#16114015 - 04/20/12 12:26 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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lemon tek is faking awesome, but if it is your first to 10th time, just eat em, only reason I lemon tek now is i can't stand the taste anymore. i used to love it would chew them until they disolved to nothing, now i can't even stand the smell of em  , besides if ya just eat em they are gonna last alot longer º
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: lokendoch]
#16114075 - 04/20/12 12:36 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I lemon tek'd 5 grams, and had the post intense experience of my life..
It lasted like 8 hours... haha
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Parrott] 1
#16114134 - 04/20/12 12:49 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Staplerhead]
#16114471 - 04/20/12 02:07 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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easily level 4-5. i recommend 1.7 in tea for first timers. tea helps with nausea.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: psilocybeMAN]
#16114683 - 04/20/12 03:28 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Eat Fresh
Eat Dry
Drink Tea
Lemon tek
NRG tek
That order. Skip what you don't like. Best trip ever was 7g NRG tek.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: ALTERED.STATES]
#16115438 - 04/20/12 10:27 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Lemon tek is a myth... Doesnt do anything magical
It's the same thing as tea... Acidic aqueous extraction ... Putting the good stuff into water based solution
Your stomach's pH is so much more acidic than lemon or vinegar... what do they think lemon is doing????
I know some folks swear it magically makes it more intense... But doesn't
People used to swear smoking bananas got you high too... Between too much pot, placebo effects and the actual mushroom experience... Think people get confused
Would just experience Mushrooms... Eat them and enjoy
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: HarryL] 1
#16115524 - 04/20/12 11:03 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Lemon tek is a myth... Doesnt do anything magical
It's the same thing as tea... Acidic aqueous extraction ... Putting the good stuff into water based solution
Your stomach's pH is so much more acidic than lemon or vinegar... what do they think lemon is doing????
Here are some basic reasons why it does work as people are reporting.
Digestion of solids takes time. Digestion of liquids is quicker.
Stomach enzymes are diet specific. They actually change as your diet changes. Also your stomach isn't producing 300 ml in one go. When you do lemon tek you are looking at a glass of 300 ml of acidic based alkaloid extraction occuring before the stomach acids do the rest. NRG tek (see my sig) does it even quicker. Taking whole shrooms is a slow release. Drink teks are not slow release.
Edited by ALTERED.STATES (04/20/12 11:11 AM)
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: ALTERED.STATES]
#16115756 - 04/20/12 12:27 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
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HarryL said:
Lemon tek is a myth... Doesnt do anything magical
It's the same thing as tea... Acidic aqueous extraction ... Putting the good stuff into water based solution
Your stomach's pH is so much more acidic than lemon or vinegar... what do they think lemon is doing????
Here are some basic reasons why it does work as people are reporting.
Digestion of solids takes time. Digestion of liquids is quicker.
Stomach enzymes are diet specific. They actually change as your diet changes. Also your stomach isn't producing 300 ml in one go. When you do lemon tek you are looking at a glass of 300 ml of acidic based alkaloid extraction occuring before the stomach acids do the rest. NRG tek (see my sig) does it even quicker. Taking whole shrooms is a slow release. Drink teks are not slow release.
Yes, but like he said, it's no different than brewing tea. If anything, the citric acid will just give you heart burn. Nobody's denying that it works, just that it does not increase effects any more than any other aqueous extraction.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: carnage11]
#16115863 - 04/20/12 01:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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The difference between 1g of shrooms being digested in 5-10min and 1g being digested in 60-90 min is a very real difference I think. I can't imagine giving someone 3-5g of shrooms in lemon tek and not saying "be careful, that comes on fast and hard."
Acid based extractions do differ with different types compounds and strengths. I think tea is a nice extraction method but lemon tek gets more alkaloids out quicker and NRG tek is something that takes me up within 5-10min.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: ALTERED.STATES]
#16116083 - 04/20/12 02:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Acid based extractions do differ with different types compounds and strengths. I think tea is a nice extraction method but lemon tek gets more alkaloids out quicker and NRG tek is something that takes me up within 5-10min.
That would be your experience and not mine. There are many people who feel this way, and there are many people who feel there is no difference. One logical explanation would be placebo effect.
Of course, if you have any verified research that states what you say to be fact, I'd like to read it, because this has been debated for quite a while now. As far as I know, there is no true evidence that states that lemon juice extracts more alkaloids than water.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Ginto]
#16116121 - 04/20/12 02:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Ginto said:
What level of trip 1-5, and also equivalent to what amount of non-lemon teked shrooms?
It depends on several things, like for example the concentration of psilocybin and psilocin in the shrooms, your body weight, how you prepare your lemon tek, and most important of all, the set and setting when you trip.
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: carnage11]
#16116153 - 04/20/12 02:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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carnage11 said:
Of course, if you have any verified research that states what you say to be fact, I'd like to read it, because this has been debated for quite a while now. As far as I know, there is no true evidence that states that lemon juice extracts more alkaloids than water.
The peer-review for acid base extraction of alkaloids is well established scientifically. Acid base extraction of alkaloids is how alkaloids are extracted in general. Most of the teks here use this method.
Acid base extractions will not occur with just water alone, unless of course you use acidic water, but then acid base extractions really do use acids. In fact adding lemon juice to water is one to way to make acidic water for acid extraction of alkaloids.
I don't think lemon acids versus water is being disputed by anyone concerning acid base alkaloid extraction. I think any chemist would find that odd.
Edited by ALTERED.STATES (04/20/12 02:47 PM)
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
#16116217 - 04/20/12 02:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well the fist time shrooming i wouldnt lemon tek it the only bad shroom trip ive ever had i lemon teked it but thats besides the point if i were you i would just take the 2.5 no lemon just a suggestionn
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I would not lemon tek that sh!t. Unless I am too late... hahah good luck go with the flow, bro!
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Re: 2.5 grams lemon tekked tommarow, first trip, what should I expect? [Re: Jordainio]
#16116621 - 04/20/12 05:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well I don't have 8 hours to trip, 4-5 is perfect. What if I take 1.25 G wait thirty minutes and take the next 1.25 G. So it takes just as long to come up as it normally would so that I can get acclimated. I plan to leave them in for 20 minutes, strain the lemons juice out just leaving the goop, throwing it in with some oarnge juice to cover the taste, then downing 2 teaspoons of ginger to help nausea. Sound okay?
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