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 Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation  [Re: Anonymous #9]
#16348572 - 06/07/12 10:39 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Why are you willing to give an addictive, harmful substance like Adderall a chance, but not a harmless, I repeat HARMLESS, non addicting, natural plant like Kratom?
I highly doubt anything will work for you,
But in my opinion you have nothing to lose With Kratom. I saw in an earlier post you saying you're worried about getting nauseous. Just don't take much, or capsule the kratom up. It wont take much (4g) of good kratom to do what I think it's going to do for you. It's non addictive, so if it works, you don't have to worry about getting horribly addicted. You can simply keep some in the medicine cabinet for when the mood strikes.
I'd rather take kratom and last a long time, granted you can get mildyly mentaly addicted, it is nothing compared to getting addicted to Meth (Adderall)
Don't try it if you don't want, but if I was you i'd keep some in the Med.cab for when the girl is over. Don't take it all the time dude, use it when you need it... it does work, better than adderall.. much better..
I'm not against giving Kratom a try. I'm just in the process of crossing things off a list: and right now I'm trying Adderall. If it doesn't help, I'll cross if off the list and move onto Kratom. However, from what I've been led to believe, the difference between Adderall and Kratom is that Adderall will show me how it's done without becoming dependent on it, while the same doesn't seem true of Kratom.
I read some trip reports on Erowid of people dosing too much on Kratom and having fits of nausea and vomiting. Harmless? Maybe so. Nonetheless, Adderall was much easier to get my hands on. If Adderall proves ineffective, I'll begin my search to find Kratom.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16350855 - 06/08/12 10:26 AM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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How is that reverse kegal coming along?
Training only a regular kegal could be hurting rather than helping; if there is no controll over it then it's contractions could push you over the edge quicker... gotta relax/reverse it
There are so many herbal remedies such as Angelica "root of the holy ghost" as a topical; making a cream or using it's oil.
I've got some of the organic root here I ya want to give that a shot.
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Angelica root might work in premature ejaculation by increasing the threshold of vibrations and senses received by the penis.
-WebMD
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: flickedbic]
#16363484 - 06/10/12 11:54 PM (11 months, 8 days ago) |
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flickedbic said:
How is that reverse kegal coming along?
Training only a regular kegal could be hurting rather than helping; if there is no controll over it then it's contractions could push you over the edge quicker... gotta relax/reverse it
There are so many herbal remedies such as Angelica "root of the holy ghost" as a topical; making a cream or using it's oil.
I've got some of the organic root here I ya want to give that a shot.
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Angelica root might work in premature ejaculation by increasing the threshold of vibrations and senses received by the penis.
-WebMD
Blessings.
For a couple of weeks, I tried finding my reverse kegel (BC muscle), but I couldn't find it, or execute it properly, without straining the whole lower half of my body as well as holding my breath. I know this isn't the correct way of doing them. That said, I continued onwards with my kegel routine and I feel like all the strengthening I've done has given me slightly more control--though this only applies to edging as of right now. I'm going to continue my kegel routine. I'm thinking that if I strengthen my kegel enough, I might be able to become multiorgasmic and just skip over the premature ejaculation problem entirely.
I'll add "angelica" to my list of things to investigate. GNC has a "performance and vitality" vitamin pack that I'm considering trying out. It believe it comes with damiana, horny goat weed, arginine, and some other stuff that's supposed to be good for sexual health.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16370001 - 06/12/12 12:28 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Yes these are all possible aids however if the main root of the matter is the mind than the majority of physical aids might provide lackluster results... focus on the mental aspects.
If overexcitement is the issue; be very attentive to your arousal level at all times as you first kiss undress massage her and then continue on in a start stop fashion (pausing if arousal level spikes to yellow to massage/ whisper to her and continue when arousal level drops) using the Taoist sexual technique of 9 shallow thrusts to 1 deep thrust. Breath. Draw the sexual energy up out of the groin thru the spine to the brain when the sexual energy there gets intense: look into the microcosmic orbit technique.
As an aside; many authors recommending Tantric practice also recommend semen retention for longevity... ejaculating only once or twice a week or a month depending on ones' age.
Don't give up on the reverse kegal either.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: flickedbic]
#16395316 - 06/17/12 03:49 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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So... I got a masturbation report... it's kinda like a trip report except it involves me touching myself and is a lot less interesting than the average trip report...
The skinny:
Drug: 10mg of Adderall
Before edging: 17minutes of visualizing sex without ejaculating
During edging: Distracted myself. Edged for a full hour with decent AL and EQ. No ejaculation.
The not-so-skinny version
I took 10mg of Adderall yesterday and then had an edging session later that night, about 10hours later. Before I started edging, I spent 17minutes visualizing myself having sex without cumming. Then I used some lube and began to stroke away for a full hour. While edging I avoided all sexual thoughts and instead distracted myself with various thoughts: comedy routines, sports, work, etc. Music played in the background. My arousal level (AL) stayed fairly manageable for most of the time, hovering between a 5 and 7. The same went for my erection quality (EQ), which stayed in the 6-8 range. After an hour of medium stroking with occasional instances of furious stroking, I happily stopped edging without ejaculating.
I don't know whether or not to attribute my success to (1) the Adderall, (2) the visualization and distraction techniques I implemented for the first time, (3) the fact that I had ejaculated just the day before, (4) the fact that music was playing during my edging session.
I'm only being somewhat facetious about that last one... Despite the confounding variables and multiple factors at work, I'm encouraged by this small victory. Especially encouraging is the fact that I didn't have to kegel in order to hold my AL at bay. I will try again tonight, though with a slightly different set and setting. Whether or not this trend will translate to actual sex, or whether it will even continue with my edging sessions, will be determined in the time to cum.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16435136 - 06/25/12 12:24 PM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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http://www.raysahelian.com/5-htp.html
^Radom find:
Orgasm delay
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Do you know of any other herbs or natural substances besides 5-htp supplement than can delay orgasm?
Perhaps kava or tryptophan may be helpful in this regard.
Blessings.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: flickedbic]
#16437790 - 06/25/12 10:35 PM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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Thanks for the heads up Flickedbic, I really appreciate it! Notch another recommendation for Kava. It's going on the list of things to try.
I've also heard good things about cock rings but I have yet to go out and invest in one. Soon.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16438480 - 06/26/12 01:05 AM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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ShroomScape said:
Thanks for the heads up Flickedbic, I really appreciate it! Notch another recommendation for Kava. It's going on the list of things to try.
I've also heard good things about cock rings but I have yet to go out and invest in one. Soon.
I've used a cock ring, didn't really change anything IMO.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16438690 - 06/26/12 02:01 AM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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cock rings and drugs. pfft.
did no one read my post? Lots of sex. Its the best way, plus you get to have tons of sex! seriously, it works. Get a girlfriend and fuck her silly. Multiple times a day for like a year. You will start lasting longer, it just takes time to desensitize the little guy to make him not so nervous. This way you dont have to rely on external substance or annoying things like cock rings.
Seroiously guys, fuck until your girl hurts and tells you no.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: sui]
#16442611 - 06/26/12 10:26 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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sui said:
cock rings and drugs. pfft.
did no one read my post? Lots of sex. Its the best way, plus you get to have tons of sex! seriously, it works. Get a girlfriend and fuck her silly. Multiple times a day for like a year. You will start lasting longer, it just takes time to desensitize the little guy to make him not so nervous. This way you dont have to rely on external substance or annoying things like cock rings.
Seroiously guys, fuck until your girl hurts and tells you no.
I read your post though I do not remember if I replied to it or not. I completely, totally, whole-heartedly, agree that lots of sex is the best way to overcome premature ejaculation. However, lots of sex--or even regular sex--isn't an option for most of us. Sex is the best way to get over any physical or mental blocks but it is also the hardest solution to cum by. Being a minute-man creates a vicious feedback loop which makes it hard to find or keep sexual partners.
Patient, helpful, women that are willing to put up with p.e. guys are in high demand but short supply.
All of that being said, I am in the fortunate position that my long-distance girlfriend will be moving into town in a matter of weeks. She's a horn-dog too. I'd like my first sexual impression on her to not be a total disaster but I fully expect that after a few months, or maybe even weeks, I'll improve drastically.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16443006 - 06/26/12 11:40 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah, I don't mean to offend you or anyone else, but taking opiates or rubbing cocaine on my cock aren't solutions I'm interested in trying. I fear I'd end up with bigger problems in the long run.
If you read the studies on the best amount of time to have sex it's 8-11 minutes of penetration. You can spend 15-20 minutes foreplay and it'll be just fine.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: withoutawire]
#16443131 - 06/27/12 12:11 AM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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KRATOM
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#16444383 - 06/27/12 10:52 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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N.L.P.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#16444620 - 06/27/12 12:23 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
KRATOM
SAID AGAIN.
JUST TRY IT DUDE. IT WORKS.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: withoutawire]
#16445338 - 06/27/12 03:17 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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withoutawire said:
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ShroomScape said:
Yeah, I don't mean to offend you or anyone else, but taking opiates or rubbing cocaine on my cock aren't solutions I'm interested in trying. I fear I'd end up with bigger problems in the long run.
If you read the studies on the best amount of time to have sex it's 8-11 minutes of penetration. You can spend 15-20 minutes foreplay and it'll be just fine.
8-11 minutes of penetration is a hell of a lot more than 30 seconds dude.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: flickedbic]
#16446385 - 06/27/12 07:02 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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weiliigod said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
KRATOM
SAID AGAIN.
JUST TRY IT DUDE. IT WORKS.
I do not doubt that Kratom works to some extent. I'm just trying other solutions first: solutions which won't cause me to be dependent on an external agent. If nothing works, then I'll fall back on relying on Kratom. But if I have to rely on something, should it be Kratom? My doc is ready to prescribe me all sorts of stuff that would help: viagra, various ssris, etc...
I know what you're thinking, aren't I also relying on Adderall? Not exactly. From what I've been told, Adderall will show me how to solve the problem so that I can take care of it on my own. To me, Adderall is like a set of training wheels; whereas Kratom is a crutch. Make sense?
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N.L.P.
I've already started incorporating some of this into my edging as a way of controlling my arousal levels. Unless you were talking about using NLP in a very specific way?
Anon 4, I've made big strides in my edging and in my arousal control over the past couple of months. I've learned a few tricks and become increasingly better at implementing them. Only time will tell if this progress will translate to real sex. My gf will be in town in a matter of weeks. If things go better than normal, I'm more than willing to try and help you out.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16447000 - 06/27/12 09:08 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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using drugs for this ill make the problem worse when you dont have the kratom. It is best to get a steady girl and practice.
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: sui]
#16449885 - 06/28/12 10:50 AM (10 months, 21 days ago) |
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I had the same problem with my ex. It became an issue in our sex life. She kept asking why it happened and I told her I had no clue because it had never been an issue before. Fast forward 6 months, and I'm with a new girl and oddly don't have the PE problems with her, so I guess things are back to normal. Maybe it was just something about that girl's vagina that got me off really fast?
Do you have the same problem with all women or just this one?
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Gumby]
#16455290 - 06/29/12 12:19 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Specific NLP; like a couple one-on-one sessions with a certified NLP Practicioner of good repute. Locate and dissolve the psychological issues. But it sounds like you are on a good path it is a powerful tool to encorporate alone also.
Blessings.
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"Thunder’s an angel and lightning its wings… innocence will overcome destruction… grateful for love, rejecting oppression."-Guernica, 1950
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: flickedbic]
#16455522 - 06/29/12 01:20 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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KRATOM KRATOM KRATOM
Stop being such a silly stubborn fuck, listen to what these people are telling you about a rather harmless & very helpful plant, and just order a ounce of it already. Stop relying on your doctor to fix your boner problems and let mother nature handle it.
Trust me, it works.
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