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 Mr.Monsanto
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 Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation  [Re: ShroomScape]
#16118728 - 04/21/12 02:34 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hey buddy, glad to hear you've gotten adderall for your situation! Those side effects you heard are valid concerns and I've been unable to cum once or twice but only under very high doses (60-70 mgs) and that+fs the only time ive had trouble getting it up. Its not a long lasting side effect and even if you cant cum or have some slight issues with being unable to be full aroused, the following day everything i back to normal. I would say experiment with different doses up to 30 mgs depending on how it affects you and see how long you can last during masturbation at each new dose. eventually you will hit a plateau where you'll have to try really hard to orgasm, or may not be able to pleasure yourself enough to achieve it. once that point is hit you can adjust the dose to find a comfort zone that works for you and will allow you to last your desired time. if it is X/R (the blue capsules with beads in them) 2 of them should be enough to get you where you want to be. any more than that and expect to be able to outlast your partner by a long shot. please report back as you see how it reacts with your libido, im interested to know if it helps you out as well as it has with me.
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"Let me mention what I've been thinking
How to save the children, when the ship is sinking
So I'm singing, no lip syncing to slogans
Political hooligans with tanks, missiles and guns
Everything is relative when it's all in the family of man
Understand the time has finally come to realise the great power of one
All formulas equalise under the Sun, amen"
Nujabes & Shing.02
We have the power to change the world when we realize how powerful the hearts and minds of men truly are.
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
#16120175 - 04/21/12 02:51 PM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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A deep understanding of dom is that it isn't about dominace: you aren't dominating, really, you're absolving somone of guilt for what they really want
I'll spare you the pedestal joke, but you're approaching sex as a favor because you think sex with you is something people put up with. That's likely a factor.
You are allowed to say "this will go better if i come once before we have sex" - if she doesn't deal with it, she doesn't get laid as well. It doesn't need to be up to her. Worst case, jack off in the bathroom real fast if you have to.
Absolutely wack with lube. Go get the biggest bottle dr johns sells. Also, try wacking it for a set amount of time and not coming. Stroke for 5 min and stop. Learn to enjoy the buildup. Light a candle. Turn off the computer/tv. Think about only beating off while beating off, try not to even think about a specific girl.
Also, its freaky and intimidating but even a small anal toy slows down a lot of people. I'm bi and i can get fucked forever without coming, even if im jerking off or being jerked
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weiliigod
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #6]
#16127344 - 04/23/12 07:39 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Just don't use the adderal to get completley geeked out. Try to use it for just your PE. IMHO 10-15mgs will be enough! Move to a higher dose if you need to! I wouldn't go over 20mg if your not experienced with aderall (or just hate amphetamines like me) . Have fun buddy and let us know!
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amilibertine
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: weiliigod]
#16127441 - 04/23/12 08:45 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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weiliigod said:
Just don't use the adderal to get completley geeked out. Try to use it for just your PE. IMHO 10-15mgs will be enough! Move to a higher dose if you need to! I wouldn't go over 20mg if your not experienced with aderall (or just hate amphetamines like me) . Have fun buddy and let us know!
I agree, I hate speed. If I took 20-30 mg of adderall I'd have to have sex just to stop focusing on how horrible adderall makes me feel. OP said he was very sensitive to caffeine. If I were him I'd take 5-10 mg at first to see how it effects him. Trust me, a lot of people talk about adds like they are the best thing on earth. But if you don't like the feeling and you had taken a moderate to heavy dose you're gonna be feeling awful for hours and hours.
Another thing that I can't believe no one has mentioned came to mind. OP, be sure you don't fall into the trap of just relying on the adderall to stop your PE. If you aren't careful your gonna trade your fear of PE for the fear of having sex without it which I'd wager is even worse. Can't very well take adderall before bed when you gotta work in the morning.
It may have fixed a few people's PE, but I'd wager most people just get addicted to having to fuck on drugs and never actually improve.
Having to have drugs to perform in bed is not gonna fix your problem most likely. Adderall isn't gonna make your dick less sensitive when your not on it.
Good luck man, hope you find what works for you.
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Mr.Monsanto
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: amilibertine]
#16127718 - 04/23/12 11:13 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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im just curious if the poster above is speaking from experience? I dont need adderall to fuck as long as I want anymore, nor do I feel that I need to be on it to have sex. Ive already covered the aspects of overcoming PE by using stimulants, and covered the problem of feeling as though you need adderall as a crutch. that's not the case at all lol. if I feel as though I want to fuck for 4 or 5 hours ill take a few addies. otherwise, i know I can last a minimum of 30 minutes with rigorous sex without the use of stimulants. the poster above me has a valid concern, but as long as you are determined to overcome this problem, you will find the solution in adderall. The above post is correct in that it wont make your dick less sensitive off addies, but it DOES allow you to control the mental aspect of sex without it.
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"Let me mention what I've been thinking
How to save the children, when the ship is sinking
So I'm singing, no lip syncing to slogans
Political hooligans with tanks, missiles and guns
Everything is relative when it's all in the family of man
Understand the time has finally come to realise the great power of one
All formulas equalise under the Sun, amen"
Nujabes & Shing.02
We have the power to change the world when we realize how powerful the hearts and minds of men truly are.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
#16129138 - 04/23/12 05:53 PM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Mr.Monsanto said:
im just curious if the poster above is speaking from experience? I dont need adderall to fuck as long as I want anymore, nor do I feel that I need to be on it to have sex. Ive already covered the aspects of overcoming PE by using stimulants, and covered the problem of feeling as though you need adderall as a crutch. that's not the case at all lol. if I feel as though I want to fuck for 4 or 5 hours ill take a few addies. otherwise, i know I can last a minimum of 30 minutes with rigorous sex without the use of stimulants. the poster above me has a valid concern, but as long as you are determined to overcome this problem, you will find the solution in adderall. The above post is correct in that it wont make your dick less sensitive off addies, but it DOES allow you to control the mental aspect of sex without it.
You're speaking with a few too many certainties here. I fully believe that it helped YOU, but one person's anecdotal evidence does not mean it WILL help OP's problem.
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Mr.Monsanto
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16129207 - 04/23/12 06:09 PM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Any individual who has had sex on amphetamines will make the same points, it's hardly anecdotal. Just because you call it a falsification does not mean there is no validity to the effects of stimulants on libido and the ability to sustain during sex. As with any amphetamine, there is potential for abuse. That is the only disclaimer I would give about using this as a cure for PE. I speak with certainty because time and time again this has been proven to work.
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"Let me mention what I've been thinking
How to save the children, when the ship is sinking
So I'm singing, no lip syncing to slogans
Political hooligans with tanks, missiles and guns
Everything is relative when it's all in the family of man
Understand the time has finally come to realise the great power of one
All formulas equalise under the Sun, amen"
Nujabes & Shing.02
We have the power to change the world when we realize how powerful the hearts and minds of men truly are.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
#16129460 - 04/23/12 07:09 PM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Mr.Monsanto said:
Any individual who has had sex on amphetamines will make the same points, it's hardly anecdotal. Just because you call it a falsification does not mean there is no validity to the effects of stimulants on libido and the ability to sustain during sex. As with any amphetamine, there is potential for abuse. That is the only disclaimer I would give about using this as a cure for PE. I speak with certainty because time and time again this has been proven to work.
Where did I say anything about falsification? All I'm saying is don't go talking with 100% certainty, because you absolutely cannot be certain that it will work. PE happens for many different reasons for many people - for some it is physical, some psychological, and some a combination of the two, and those are just basic factors, not even getting into the complexities of it.
I have severe PE, and I am definitely going to try your suggestion, but you simply cannot advocate with such certainty that it is a solution for all people.
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Mr.Monsanto
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16129648 - 04/23/12 07:48 PM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Mr.Monsanto said:
Any individual who has had sex on amphetamines will make the same points, it's hardly anecdotal. Just because you call it a falsification does not mean there is no validity to the effects of stimulants on libido and the ability to sustain during sex. As with any amphetamine, there is potential for abuse. That is the only disclaimer I would give about using this as a cure for PE. I speak with certainty because time and time again this has been proven to work.
Where did I say anything about falsification? All I'm saying is don't go talking with 100% certainty, because you absolutely cannot be certain that it will work. PE happens for many different reasons for many people - for some it is physical, some psychological, and some a combination of the two, and those are just basic factors, not even getting into the complexities of it.
I have severe PE, and I am definitely going to try your suggestion, but you simply cannot advocate with such certainty that it is a solution for all people.
Of course there are differences among body chemistry and the way that drugs affect certain people. However, the basic effects of stimulants allow for increased mental focus and it is proven through many individuals personal experience that it decreases the sensitivity of your penis especially during intercourse. Both of these side effects allow for an increased longevity during sex because although the reasons for PE vary, the basic causes of it are easily addressed through both of those side effects. With increased mental focus - whether be on not orgasming or thinking of something other than sex while having intercourse - will take off the strain of constantly worrying about ejaculating too soon. With decreased sensitivity on and around the penis, the sensation of sex (while not being completely diminished) is decreased enough so that it no longer becomes overwhelming enough to cum within the first 10 seconds of intercourse. Both of these combined create the perfect atmosphere for reducing the urge to cum prematurely (or at least too early for your taste.) and while yes there is a potential to feel the need for it as a crutch; you will notice an increase in sustainability both on and off of adderall. Of course when under the influence of adderall you will find yourself able to last significantly longer than when not on it. However, once you realize that not every sexual encounter will result in PE, that worry will no longer be as prominent during sex. Anyone who has had a PE problem knows how vicious of a cycle it is - you cum too early, become self-conscious, believe there is no solution and every encounter following results in the same thing. Once you break the cycle it no longer becomes so straining mentally and allows you to work on what helps you most when sexing up your partner.
I understand why you are skeptical of my voracious support of adderall in curing PE. Not only am I able to testify to the validity of such an approach, but my current girlfriend as well as friends of mine and their partners can also stand behind adderalls effects on sex drive and stamina during intercourse. As with any stimulant there is a chance of addiction to it. If you are a strong-willed person who seeks to find a cure for your problem, then you will use it only as needed to fix the situation and will grow and learn from your experiences when under the influence of it. I hope this clears things up on my end and shows you that I'm not trying to make this out to be a "one size fits all" type cure for PE, but simply explaining that in the event of an issue like such, adderall has helped me and many others put this issue in the past and aided in the bettering of not only my own sex life but other people as well.
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"Let me mention what I've been thinking
How to save the children, when the ship is sinking
So I'm singing, no lip syncing to slogans
Political hooligans with tanks, missiles and guns
Everything is relative when it's all in the family of man
Understand the time has finally come to realise the great power of one
All formulas equalise under the Sun, amen"
Nujabes & Shing.02
We have the power to change the world when we realize how powerful the hearts and minds of men truly are.
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ShroomScape
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
#16130350 - 04/23/12 10:31 PM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Anonymous said:
Also, its freaky and intimidating but even a small anal toy slows down a lot of people. I'm bi and i can get fucked forever without coming, even if im jerking off or being jerked
I've been toying--pun!--around with the idea of getting an anal plug or some sort of massager. Others have reported that it makes it easier to do their kegel exercises. That'd be a big step for me, but I'm getting pretty desperate so I may just look into it... Quote:
weiliigod said:
Just don't use the adderal to get completley geeked out. Try to use it for just your PE. IMHO 10-15mgs will be enough! Move to a higher dose if you need to! I wouldn't go over 20mg if your not experienced with aderall (or just hate amphetamines like me) . Have fun buddy and let us know!
Doctor recommended I start with 5mgs and then move up to 10 if need be. I have no idea how my body will react to it. I know I'm super sensitive to caffeine but I've never tried any amphetamines and I'm assuming this is a whole new beast.
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amilibertine said:
Another thing that I can't believe no one has mentioned came to mind. OP, be sure you don't fall into the trap of just relying on the adderall to stop your PE. If you aren't careful your gonna trade your fear of PE for the fear of having sex without it which I'd wager is even worse. Can't very well take adderall before bed when you gotta work in the morning.
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Adderall isn't gonna make your dick less sensitive when your not on it.
I hadn't even thought about the fact that the Adderall would probably prevent me from sleeping if I took it late in the day. I'll have to do some research to find out how long it takes to kick in, how long it lasts, etc. If I know I'm gonna be getting action, I'll obviously take it earlier in the day. But if it's something spontaneous, I guess I'd have to pop a pill late in the evening like it or not.
And, I was kind of hoping that Adderall would make my dick less sensitive. But if it works its magic in other ways, say by allowing me to relax or by reducing physiological/psychological arousal levels, then I'm all for it.
Mr.Monsato has assured me that Adderall wouldn't be a crutch for life, that I wouldn't become dependent on it. I get the impression it's more of a map that shows you the way, rather than a crutch; kinda like those floaty things little kids wear to help them swim--they don't wear them forever once they figure out how it's done. So, I'm hoping that Adderall will readjust my awareness of my own mind and body in a way that allows me to overcome premature ejaculation.
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Mr.Monsanto said:
Any individual who has had sex on amphetamines will make the same points, it's hardly anecdotal. Just because you call it a falsification does not mean there is no validity to the effects of stimulants on libido and the ability to sustain during sex... I speak with certainty because time and time again this has been proven to work.
When I mentioned Adderall's effects on the libido to my doctor, he did not sound surprised at all. He apparently knew that some people with p.e. have better sex while on amphetamines. The fact that he did not seem surprised and readily agreed with my desire to try it for pe, makes me believe that the connection between stimulants and sexual performance is more than just anecdotal. (I realize this type of reasoning isn't air-tight logic and that it might be a case of hoping for the best.)
I thought I should add some general notes/updates on my own situation. I've acquired the Adderall but haven't taken it yet because i'm recovering from strep throat.
In addition to the Adderall I have started a habit of edging every night before bed: masturbating without ejaculating, pushing myself closer and closer to orgasm without actually crossing the threshold. The point to this is two fold: one, to become familiar with my body's arousal levels; and two, to train my body to get used to feeling pleasure without blowing my load.
I've done kegels in the past but they weren't really helpful whatsoever. I'm now researching reverse kegels (RKs) because they're supposed to allow one to relax the muscle's that lead to ejaculation. Problem is: I'm having a tough time feeling my RK muscles. If anyone reading this has advice or experience with RKs, PLEASE post in here or pm me.
Finally, I've also started getting into the habit of using deep-breathing techniques to calm myself. When I'm going throughout my day, I can easily engage this activity. I'm just having trouble doing it while masturbating, or even when sexting with my girl--sexting alone gives me wood and inspires minor tingles and jingles in my body.
Summary: Between the Adderall, the practice of edging, reverse kegels, and relaxation techniques, I think I've addressed every dimension of premature ejaculation possible: from the physical imbalances, to the years of conditioning that are being re-wired, right down to the psychological aspects of it.
Honestly, I won't know how far I've come--unintentional pun--until I actually have sex with a girl. Talking is fine and masturbating is helpful, but it's nothing like doing the deed itself. I can already feel myself putting a lot of pressure on my next sexual encounter: hoping against all reason that the combination of Adderall and weekly training will have fixed, or at least alleviated, my problem.
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Me_Roy
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
#16131546 - 04/24/12 02:55 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Mr.Monsanto said:
Any individual who has had sex on amphetamines will make the same points, it's hardly anecdotal. Just because you call it a falsification does not mean there is no validity to the effects of stimulants on libido and the ability to sustain during sex. As with any amphetamine, there is potential for abuse. That is the only disclaimer I would give about using this as a cure for PE. I speak with certainty because time and time again this has been proven to work.
the plural of anecdote is DATA.
...oh, wait, wha???
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Me_Roy]
#16131584 - 04/24/12 03:10 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Answer: Aggressive masturbation.
It numbs your senses and let's you keep going. I'm not fucking around man, it might help you last longer for the real thing.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16136070 - 04/25/12 01:24 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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I used to ejaculate prematurely. All I can say is that it went away with time and practice. It is better when I feel more comfortable with the girl; I might not last very long the first couple times but then it gets much better. I think it has a lot to do with not contracting the muscles down there so much while you're thrusting. Just relax.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16136076 - 04/25/12 01:26 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Anonymous said:
I used to ejaculate prematurely. All I can say is that it went away with time and practice. It is better when I feel more comfortable with the girl; I might not last very long the first couple times but then it gets much better. I think it has a lot to do with not contracting the muscles down there so much while you're thrusting. Just relax.
Oh that's it? Just relax? I never though of that! 
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16136135 - 04/25/12 01:40 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Whatever, buddy, worked for me.
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ShroomScape
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16137258 - 04/25/12 10:41 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Anonymous said:
I used to ejaculate prematurely. All I can say is that it went away with time and practice. It is better when I feel more comfortable with the girl; I might not last very long the first couple times but then it gets much better. I think it has a lot to do with not contracting the muscles down there so much while you're thrusting. Just relax.
You're definitely right: relaxation is a big part of it, both physiologically relaxing (PC and BC) muscles and psychologically relaxing our overall tension and anxiety. Problem is: most of us can't simply snap out of our tension and fall into a stress free state. Did you do anything specific to overcome your p.e. and learn to relax?
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weiliigod
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16138066 - 04/25/12 03:46 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Okay, I had sex on Kratom last night & I could barley feel my dick. I fucked for like 30 mins before finally busting a load... best thing was right after sex I was TIRED & passed the fuck out, something you clearly can't say when you fuck on adderal.
OP try Kratom, seriously, it worked last night for me. I ussually only last 2-5 minutes of pumping, but with the kratom I could barley even feel it. Idk, hard to explain but I had great stamina on it. However, a lower sex drive then when on Adderal, yet, still present. Not geeking, I like this solution better, honestly. Try it out.
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ShroomScape
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: weiliigod]
#16138100 - 04/25/12 03:55 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Weiliigod, thanks for the advice! How much Kratom did you take? And where did you get it? Online? In a store? Off the streets? Kratom does seem more appealing than Adderall, especially considering it's fairly short duration (I just looked it up on Erowid). I wonder if I could combine the two: Adderall and Kratom...
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Myco Josh
Chef
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16138171 - 04/25/12 04:14 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Having sex a few times a day, every day without wrangling the one eyed monster helped out 1000x for me...but then again I fucked my dream girl on acid the first night we were together.
Kratom 15x also works for me if I go a few days without shagging.
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"Don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?"
Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to divide it right in two.
Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys.
Give them thumbs, they make a club to beat their brother down.
How they've survived so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
To lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here."
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weiliigod
N.Ga shroom hunter
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Re: Overcoming Premature Ejaculation [Re: ShroomScape]
#16138313 - 04/25/12 05:00 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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ShroomScape said:
Weiliigod, thanks for the advice! How much Kratom did you take? And where did you get it? Online? In a store? Off the streets? Kratom does seem more appealing than Adderall, especially considering it's fairly short duration (I just looked it up on Erowid). I wonder if I could combine the two: Adderall and Kratom...
Hey PM me for the best source. I take anywhere from 5-15 G's depending on the strain & strength.
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