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shiitake F stain [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #16044235 - 04/04/12 07:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

hello everyone--
probably my last post on the warm weather shiitake from our big Aloha buy last year--

This is the F strain--
I hope you can appreciate the number of pins these dudes have-it is truly way better than the TL2 I just posted. Also, these were inoculated way back in early December last year with the TL2 and were kept in the house at 76-79 degrees F, oh until maybe late January or early February, when I placed them in our garage. Please understand Texas has had a warm winter. I don't think we had any freezing days down here in the coastal part.

Now my temps outside are around the high 80's. Since they went outside about a week ago daytime temps have been 70-high 80's--nighttime from 60-75. I'm sure you would agree that is quite warm for most Shiitake. Nevertheless, these beauties are looking well. Please enjoy the pics--substrate is the same as TL2.









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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Terry M]
    #16044597 - 04/04/12 08:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Does anybody know where we can obtain a culture of this?

http://app1.bedo.or.th/biolistdb/MushroomPicture/Lentinus%20giganteus%206.jpg

It looks like a very large and awesome edible! It is grown commercially for food in China, and is found wild in Thailand. It grows on bran enriched sawdust. Considering it is a commercial mushroom, a culture shouldn't be impossible to find. mycochef apparently a culture of this nearly 2 years ago, but there was no follow-up: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12598179#12598179
mycochef hasn't been seen here for 6 months.

I think it'd be a great Group Buy.




Aloha Medicinals has a few cultures for sale.


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: lipa]
    #16044793 - 04/04/12 09:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Terry M said:
Does anybody know where we can obtain a culture of this?

http://app1.bedo.or.th/biolistdb/MushroomPicture/Lentinus%20giganteus%206.jpg

It looks like a very large and awesome edible! It is grown commercially for food in China, and is found wild in Thailand. It grows on bran enriched sawdust. Considering it is a commercial mushroom, a culture shouldn't be impossible to find. mycochef apparently a culture of this nearly 2 years ago, but there was no follow-up: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12598179#12598179
mycochef hasn't been seen here for 6 months.

I think it'd be a great Group Buy.




Aloha Medicinals has a few cultures for sale.




Weird....I do not see it on their site.

A search found only references to their online docs.

i.e. www.alohamedicinals.com/book2/chapter-10-01.pdf

Thanks Lipa

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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: lipa]
    #16044808 - 04/04/12 09:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Terry M said:
Does anybody know where we can obtain a culture of this?

http://app1.bedo.or.th/biolistdb/MushroomPicture/Lentinus%20giganteus%206.jpg

It looks like a very large and awesome edible! It is grown commercially for food in China, and is found wild in Thailand. It grows on bran enriched sawdust. Considering it is a commercial mushroom, a culture shouldn't be impossible to find. mycochef apparently a culture of this nearly 2 years ago, but there was no follow-up: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12598179#12598179
mycochef hasn't been seen here for 6 months.

I think it'd be a great Group Buy.




Aloha Medicinals has a few cultures for sale.



Wow, that's great! It doesn't seem to be on their list of cultures PDF. Do you want to contact John, or should I?


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Terry M]
    #16045277 - 04/04/12 10:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hi guys
What you gobe do with lentinus giganteus , taste awfull, in rainy season from sept to Dec normally i have some coming up ?? and is a strictly warm weather mushroom aound 35 to 38 Celsius,but medecinal its appreciated


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: bitepourrie]
    #16045763 - 04/05/12 12:54 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Wow, tastes awful....hmmmmm


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: bitepourrie]
    #16046525 - 04/05/12 07:57 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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What you gobe do with lentinus giganteus , taste awfull, in rainy season from sept to Dec normally i have some coming up ?? and is a strictly warm weather mushroom aound 35 to 38 Celsius,but medecinal its appreciated




Thank you, Willy!  :bowdown:

You saved us from a great deal of wasted effort.


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Terry M]
    #16048676 - 04/05/12 05:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

de gustibus and colcoribus non discutant


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: bitepourrie]
    #16048697 - 04/05/12 05:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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de gustibus and colcoribus non discutant




Ah my benthic brother....I love it.

There is no accounting for taste

Fun stuff.

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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Javadog]
    #16092610 - 04/15/12 10:20 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Anyone involved here know the warmest weather shiitake strain from Aloha?  Also a warm and cold weather log strain?  I hate to bother Aloha if someone here knows the answer.  I wish I had more to contribute to the knowledge base but I am still working out my shiitake production and not knowing the fruiting parameters does not help my confidence.  I will get it dialed in but in the mean time I want to work with a couple of known strain parameters.

Thanks
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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: trout]
    #16092981 - 04/15/12 12:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'm not experienced at growing shiitakes, so I looked up the temperature ranges for fruiting. This info was gotten from Field and Forest Products, except for the cold weather high temp which through a typo seems to be missing (and which resellers blindly copied!). I got the cold weather high temp from Stamets' site.

Cold weather: 45-60 F.
Wide range: 55-75 F.
Warm weather: 50-85 F.

For outdoor fruiting, you need to know the temperature category of the strain, of course. But if you're doing a controlled temp indoor grow, it looks like 60 degrees would be safe for all ranges. Or do warm weather strains fruit more prolifically at the high end of their temperature range?


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: trout]
    #16092994 - 04/15/12 12:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hey Trout,

I want to recommend S75 from Aloha.

(or from me ;0)

It does very well in So Cal summer weather, I can attest.

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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Javadog]
    #16093112 - 04/15/12 12:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys.

Terry I was part of the group buy so I have 40+ strains but I do not know which fits into each category and they do not seem to be labeled well in there strain list.  My indoor temps in the summer will be in the 75-85 range. My garage will be even warmer and in the winter garage temps will be around 40-60(could be heated but why?). Indoor is out for winter growing at this point.


Java I have S75 and will give it another go but I would like to find another strain for using pasteurized subs with a high spawn rate for quicker colonization/lower contams without S75's mutant issues. 

I think I will have to introduce myself to Aloha and try to get more info from them.

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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: trout]
    #16093212 - 04/15/12 01:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

More info would be great, trout. I'm fruiting mine indoors, at 60 degrees F. until otherwise informed.


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: trout]
    #16113586 - 04/19/12 11:06 PM (1 year, 29 days ago)

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Anyone involved here know the warmest weather shiitake strain from Aloha?  Also a warm and cold weather log strain?  I hate to bother Aloha if someone here knows the answer.  I wish I had more to contribute to the knowledge base but I am still working out my shiitake production and not knowing the fruiting parameters does not help my confidence.  I will get it dialed in but in the mean time I want to work with a couple of known strain parameters.

Thanks
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Trout,
i mentioned earlier that the F strain and the TL2 are warm weather strains. my temps down here have been in the 80's with both fruiting outside.
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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: houdinihar]
    #16113782 - 04/19/12 11:44 PM (1 year, 29 days ago)

A few of other warm weather strains can be identified by their place of origin.

ED - Thailand
U8 - Maui
CS2 - Qingyuan, China
CS3 - Qingyuan, China
QUA GU - Qingyuan, China

Those and the ones houdinihar mentioned are all I've been able to figure out as warm weather strains.

DON seems to be a cold weather strain, based on information from a paper my its cultivator, John Donoghue.

That's all I've been able to identify.


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Terry M] * 2
    #16150339 - 04/28/12 08:58 AM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Here's my CS2 project. Lots of tiny mushrooms, no cold shocking required. It was a douglas fir sawdust block with wheat bran.
The best pinset I ever got from a shiitake block! :super:



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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: Hacendado]
    #16150407 - 04/28/12 10:04 AM (1 year, 21 days ago)

DAMN those are some impressive results, thanks for sharing.


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Re: Lentinus giganteus [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16152101 - 04/28/12 07:12 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Geez Hace....are their blocks under there?  I cannot see them!

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Great work.

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    #16152550 - 04/28/12 09:03 PM (1 year, 20 days ago)

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