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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: whale oil lamp]
    #16315094 - 06/01/12 05:12 AM (11 months, 11 days ago)

Good work, keep it up.

I'll be going around my patches tomorrow, but it hasn't rained this week so I'm not sure if I'll have much luck.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16315095 - 06/01/12 05:13 AM (11 months, 11 days ago)

love the shots blessed very well done my friend , great haul are u in the north or south


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: whale oil lamp]
    #16315153 - 06/01/12 06:12 AM (11 months, 11 days ago)

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love the shots blessed very well done my friend , great haul are u in the north or south





Hello whale oil lamp :smile:

Thank you :smile:  I counted around 70 from yesterday and about 170 today!! Very very happy :smile:

Im in the north.

btw, Awesome finds too whale oil lamp, they should give you an awesome time :wink: good luck with finding more like them :smile:



To All Please

Im a bit worried that some of today's picks could be non active or poisonous (Galerina?,or strophes? (sorry if wrong spelling)). Im only aware of two look alike for subs,
are there more?

also, if it's not active, but NOT poisonous, is it still not good to consume?
(sorry, i have next to no knowledge on these matters)

Any thoughts?

I say this cause there is bluing, but not heaps, on some it's very minimal, almost non existent (but they all look like subs (today's finds))
Any help please would be much appreciated

Thank you.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16315171 - 06/01/12 06:29 AM (11 months, 11 days ago)

Spore print any you're not sure of. Take pictures of gills, stem, cap spore print and make an ID request in the hunting and identifcation forum. You'll get a lot more help there than just in this thread.

Here's a bit of information I can give you.

Galerinas give a rusty brown print.

From what I just read Leractiomyces ceres has a purplish to black spore print, so that might make things a bit confusing. However, eating this mushroom won't kill you, but will most likely make you sick.

Everything in your pictures look fine to me, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Maybe try and look for other ways to ID them instead of just relying on blue bruising. Things like cap texture, the way the gills look, the texture of the stem, annulus on stem etc.
It gets easier as you go on - I rarely look for blue bruising when picking as I can easily distinguish subs between others. If this is your first season picking, then next season you should have no trouble at all. You're already off to a great start.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16315367 - 06/01/12 08:10 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)





Hey guys! Went out today and had a bit of a find. Pretty much positive they're subs but thought I'd put 'em up to be 100%. Any idea how many of these bad boys (dried) would be enough for intoxication? I'm assuming drying increases the potency? I'll probs go back to the area soon to try and find more.

Loving this thread.  :biggrin:

Thanks!


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: shroomseeker]
    #16315393 - 06/01/12 08:19 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

They are Psilocybe subaeruginosa.

Drying does not effect the potency of a mushroom, they will be more potent per gram once dry though because they weigh less and have the same amount of psilocybin/psilocyn.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16315585 - 06/01/12 09:34 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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Nevermind said:
Spore print any you're not sure of. Take pictures of gills, stem, cap spore print and make an ID request in the hunting and identifcation forum. You'll get a lot more help there than just in this thread.

Here's a bit of information I can give you.

Galerinas give a rusty brown print.

From what I just read Leractiomyces ceres has a purplish to black spore print, so that might make things a bit confusing. However, eating this mushroom won't kill you, but will most likely make you sick.

Everything in your pictures look fine to me, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Maybe try and look for other ways to ID them instead of just relying on blue bruising. Things like cap texture, the way the gills look, the texture of the stem, annulus on stem etc.
It gets easier as you go on - I rarely look for blue bruising when picking as I can easily distinguish subs between others. If this is your first season picking, then next season you should have no trouble at all. You're already off to a great start.





Thank you Nevermind :smile:

This is my first season at hunting and im where im at cause of my 2 friends and, the Awesome people on this site.
Sounds silly, but i never even thought of printing the suspect ones (doh!) Im still a noob :justdontknow:  Thanks for advice :costanza:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16317985 - 06/01/12 06:11 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Hello Again

Nevermind, I've had another (around 6th now) look at my pictures and mushrooms (latest finds) and now am not so worried any more :smile:

The thing that gave me concern was the lack of strong bluing, which got me thinking. Can a Psilocybe subaeruginosa (or any active) patch lose it's active ingredient,
due to factors like chemicals being used near or on the shrooms themselves, or any other situation, that over time, has modified the genetic makeup of the mushrooms?,
thus making them pointless to pick, i know i may be wrong, but is it possible?

If all of the finds from yesterday blued like the Psilocybe cyanescens i found awhile ago, i wouldn't have second guess some of yesterdays finds.

As for not even thinking to print the ones i wasn't sure about (again, Doh!),
because of my friends helping me find actives, I've ended up missing some of the lessons that a new hunter must go through as they learn what is, and what isn't an active.
Still, all of what's happened is teaching me :smile: (will change how i do things from now on, again thanks for help :thumbup: )

Have a good weekend Nevermind :smile:

btw, whale oil lamp

your (awesome) pictures come and go, one minute you can see them, next you can't. I upload all my pictures to this site, here's the link;

http://www.shroomery.org/5286/How-do-I-put-pictures-in-my-post

hope that helps :smile:


Oh, and one more question for All please?

What causes weakness (sometimes excessive, can't even walk!!) in my arms and legs when consuming shrooms, is it because I've had too many?
(over a short period of time,say 20plus grams dried within 2-3 weeks)?
(which has caused a large build up of leftover shroom stuff (sorry don't know the right term) in my blood and system)

or, is it because of a single large dose, and not because I've been having too many (which i probably have)
and is there a way to stop it happening (please don't say don't consume shrooms :wink: )

again, any appreciated greatly help :wink:

Cya for now  :awecid:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16318597 - 06/01/12 08:22 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Went out at 8:30 this morning thinking the rain had stopped. Just after I got to my first patch it started up again. I only managed to go to four patches - the fifth will have to wait until tomorrow.

When I came home I was soaking wet but it was worth it. Found some really nice looking subs. Didn't get a lot of pictures as I was rushing because of the rain.


Making some prints...


A wavy capped sub


And the rest that I'm not printing


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16318929 - 06/01/12 09:36 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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blessed said:
What causes weakness (sometimes excessive, can't even walk!!) in my arms and legs when consuming shrooms, is it because I've had too many?
(over a short period of time,say 20plus grams dried within 2-3 weeks)?
(which has caused a large build up of leftover shroom stuff (sorry don't know the right term) in my blood and system)

or, is it because of a single large dose, and not because I've been having too many (which i probably have)
and is there a way to stop it happening (please don't say don't consume shrooms :wink: )

again, any appreciated greatly help :wink:

Cya for now  :awecid:




There are a few threads around where people have experienced abnormal body load and effects from consuming woodloving psilocybe species. I remember once I was tripping, walked in the front door then woke up lying in the middle of the hall an unknown amount of time later - I pretty much passed out and have no recollection of how or when it happened. When I came to my legs were like jelly and I was dripping with sweat all over my body. You need to be a bit more cautious when consuming woodlovers than other types of actives.

I would be cutting down the amount you consume. I don't see anything wrong with tripping once per week, but tripping multiple times a week for weeks in a row will most likely start to mess with you and become less enjoyable, and you will also end up with a big tolerance (meaning you will be wasting mushrooms because the dosage you need will always be increasing), and your serotonin production will most likely be out of whack for a few weeks. That is just my opinion though, it's really up to you how often you consume them.


The best thing to do is educate yourself about psilocybes. Research psilocybin and psilocin so you understand how they work and effect you. It is a reasonably safe drug to be consuming, but abusing it will almost definitely lead to bad things.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16320040 - 06/02/12 01:33 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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:mygoditsfullofstars:nice looking Subs :awethumb:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16320286 - 06/02/12 02:47 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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Nevermind said:
Quote:

blessed said:
What causes weakness (sometimes excessive, can't even walk!!) in my arms and legs when consuming shrooms, is it because I've had too many?
(over a short period of time,say 20plus grams dried within 2-3 weeks)?
(which has caused a large build up of leftover shroom stuff (sorry don't know the right term) in my blood and system)

or, is it because of a single large dose, and not because I've been having too many (which i probably have)
and is there a way to stop it happening (please don't say don't consume shrooms :wink: )

again, any appreciated greatly help :wink:

Cya for now  :awecid:




There are a few threads around where people have experienced abnormal body load and effects from consuming woodloving psilocybe species. I remember once I was tripping, walked in the front door then woke up lying in the middle of the hall an unknown amount of time later - I pretty much passed out and have no recollection of how or when it happened. When I came to my legs were like jelly and I was dripping with sweat all over my body. You need to be a bit more cautious when consuming woodlovers than other types of actives.

I would be cutting down the amount you consume. I don't see anything wrong with tripping once per week, but tripping multiple times a week for weeks in a row will most likely start to mess with you and become less enjoyable, and you will also end up with a big tolerance (meaning you will be wasting mushrooms because the dosage you need will always be increasing), and your serotonin production will most likely be out of whack for a few weeks. That is just my opinion though, it's really up to you how often you consume them.


The best thing to do is educate yourself about psilocybes. Research psilocybin and psilocin so you understand how they work and effect you. It is a reasonably safe drug to be consuming, but abusing it will almost definitely lead to bad things.



ive had trouble in the past with my eyes going really funny like i dont feel under the influence but my eyes are like jelly particularly older shrooms or the morning after a big trip.not a great feeling. always return to normal after short amount of time :smile: good hauls guys btw! i got a few nicies this morn too :smile:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
    #16321123 - 06/02/12 12:01 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Nevermind said:

There are a few threads around where people have experienced abnormal body load and effects from consuming woodloving psilocybe species. I remember once I was tripping, walked in the front door then woke up lying in the middle of the hall an unknown amount of time later - I pretty much passed out and have no recollection of how or when it happened. When I came to my legs were like jelly and I was dripping with sweat all over my body. You need to be a bit more cautious when consuming woodlovers than other types of actives.

I would be cutting down the amount you consume. I don't see anything wrong with tripping once per week, but tripping multiple times a week for weeks in a row will most likely start to mess with you and become less enjoyable, and you will also end up with a big tolerance (meaning you will be wasting mushrooms because the dosage you need will always be increasing), and your serotonin production will most likely be out of whack for a few weeks. That is just my opinion though, it's really up to you how often you consume them.


The best thing to do is educate yourself about psilocybes. Research psilocybin and psilocin so you understand how they work and effect you. It is a reasonably safe drug to be consuming, but abusing it will almost definitely lead to bad things.




Hello again Nevermind :smile:  Great finds by the way  :homerdrool:

In all honesty, I have been consuming way too much.

It was basically the kid in the candy store situation. but, i have been decreasing the frequency and dosages due to a few close calls.
One of them being that while driving to work (trip had ended hours before), my foot became so weak that i found it hard to use the accelerator!!, it could have ended badly.
So yes i should be wiser with shrooms. My wisdom has come manly from my stupidity, and I don't want to repeat my mistakes. If i do?, Im nothing but a fool!!

As for tripping more then once a week, my work situation does make it possible for me to have the time to trip twice a week, mid week and weekend.
I am still hoping to be able to and was thinking of having a small dosage mid week, say, 1-2 grams, and on the weekend have a 3-5g trip.
As i haven't tested if this will work yet, I'll just have to see. I may find that it's just not possible. If so, i will review the situation again.

On one hand, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the effect on music shrooms give, hence the desire for more trips, but on the other hand,
i have a life to live and my family, friends & job can't suffer cause of me wanting to feel "Awesome".

On a side note, one of my friends, who is content with smaller doses and would not trip anywhere near as much as i have been, he has had the weak legs situation too.
So i guess, it can happen anytime to anyone, but excessive tripping only makes the problem worse (imo, based on what's happened to me).

btw, do you remember how much you had consumed the time you passed out?

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ive had trouble in the past with my eyes going really funny like i dont feel under the influence but my eyes are like jelly particularly older shrooms or the morning after a big trip.not a great feeling. always return to normal after short amount of time :smile: good hauls guys btw! i got a few nicies this morn too :smile:




Hello scrogman :smile:

It's doesn't sound like a nice side effect :frown: I always look terrible the next morning after a trip!, um.. wait a second, that's how i always look :wink:

did you decrease your intake after that first happened?

Also,
Glad you found this morning, has your patch you mentioned not long a go, started fruiting?
And would you say that this is the peak of the season?


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16322627 - 06/02/12 07:31 PM (11 months, 9 days ago)

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btw, do you remember how much you had consumed the time you passed out?





I think it was something like 3 grams. I dosed from a jar of blue honey, so I'm not really sure how much it was. I ate two heaped teaspoons though.

I was about two hours into the trip and had been smoking cones the whole time. I got up and went outside for a cigarette. I remember feeling really light headed and short of breath when I made it to the front door. I don't remember what happened after this. For all I know I could have had a seizure. It was most likely just a bad case of hypertension, but still, it's not the kind of thing you want to experience while tripping.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16325187 - 06/03/12 07:00 AM (11 months, 9 days ago)

Hello

Thanks again Nevermind for ALL your help

I've reached the point that I've realized that I've been foolish concerning magic mushrooms. Looking back, my good friend who introduce shrooms to me around a year ago, would always say how that you would have like a light bulb moment when tripping (words to that effect). Well The light bulb moment from today's 5g cyans trip taught me that, enough is enough, my body can't take this abuse anymore. Gonna stop tripping for awhile. Thank you to the people that showed concern for me, you are all wonderful people, i really mean that!!

Also, gotta lay off posting so damn much (sorry).

So i now begin my break, until i speak to you all again, thank you all so so much, for all your help :thumbup:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
    #16325349 - 06/03/12 08:52 AM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Hey there blessed, after reading your post it reminded me of a couple years ago when I was taking shrooms every day and would go to work next day and my hands wouldn't function properly the day after. I do think its the peak of the season in some ways but as soon as shrooms season starts you can find big patches in the right spot.
Found a new spot today :smile: totally in expected as I was not out searching just keeping my eyes open :smile: .
Had some with my girl last night I soaked three big fresh shrooms each in lemon juice for over  half hour. My girlfriend had only had them once with no effect, and she has a high tolerance to acid. After an hour I was :mushroom2: tripping, even to the point of blowing out a bit. She couldn't feel it at all. So had a great night playing zombies and watched two wiked movies but she had almost no effect just a bit of crook stomach prob due to shrooms. I told her to take more after the first hour but she was worried the first lot would kick in. So that was weird hey I really thought she would trip balls cas it was a fair amount each, I mean these were big potent shrooms, both of us hadn't eaten since lunch either.
Oh yeah blessed that spot has signs of fruits but no where near the amount of last year. Did find ai shit load tonight too in a spot where I found a few two years back, none last year.  Picked half of em I'll put a pic up. Finding pins galore too so i think there's more to come.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
    #16325408 - 06/03/12 09:30 AM (11 months, 8 days ago)

I rekon life itself is beautiful . The feeling of schrooms are great and enhances other little things in your vision, mind and perception.. But isnt life itself a trip, because u never know what is going to happen. since hunting for schrooms i have had 3 trips since the start of the season, has to be right place right time deal 4 me . i rekon the best aspect of the whole mushroom experience is the hunt :smile:


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: whale oil lamp]
    #16327301 - 06/03/12 06:35 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Nice finds scrogman.

I noticed you said your girl has a high tolerance to acid. Do you get much acid up North? Hobart had a shit load of acid going around early last year but I haven't seen any since.
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i rekon the best aspect of the whole mushroom experience is the hunt :smile:




I agree with you there. I get more satisfaction from actually finding mushrooms than tripping on them. I haven't tripped at all this season yet.


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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #16327337 - 06/03/12 06:45 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Hi nevermind, well in regards to the acid it comes and goes but I think if you hunt it out, its not too hard to find. I think the silk road is the way to go for cid from what I've been hearing. Its pretty popular with hipster types these days so if you chase them acid isn't far away. I'm hoping try 2cb soon which a mate is getting for me. But yeah I'm in the same boat as whale oil lamp I only trip like once a week if that, don't smoke weed at all. Life is what u make it mix it up and enjoy what ur doing and you really don't need to be out of it all the time :smile:


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