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Re: Your [Re: The Human Floyd]
    #16012854 - 03/29/12 11:43 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I wish I were peaking on mushrooms right now. That's 'my' church. :mushroom2:


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Tony]
    #16012866 - 03/29/12 11:46 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I second that... motion. :mushroom2:


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #16012894 - 03/29/12 11:52 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Can I interest you in a potion? ..or would you prefer some lotion?

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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16013716 - 03/29/12 03:17 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

White Beard said:
I didn't have a full length body pillow though. That was my problem. :facepalm:





When I do it I go into bliss like satori states for hours.  Talking to my friends and listening to music is great when coming down.

Are you using pure MDMA?  Still it's all different strokes. I'm just one of the lucky ones.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Icelander]
    #16013742 - 03/29/12 03:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I didn't really get that just laying in silence. I just got really emotional and started yelling as loud as I could at the universe why it had to be such a dick to me. I kind of freaked out my roommates. When I put on the tunes then I started to feel real fucking good, then I just had to phone up my friend to tell him how much I loved him. It was fun times but not really life changing.

Perhaps I'll try it again sometime.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16013799 - 03/29/12 03:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting.  I watched a friend focus like that on negatives when I was at Burning Man.  He railed for hours and generally had a bad experience.  I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Icelander]
    #16013813 - 03/29/12 03:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I was feeling pretty desperate at the time and really confused. It felt nice to get it all out of my system.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: The Human Floyd] * 1
    #16013862 - 03/29/12 03:48 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Most at peace under a wide-open sky.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16014704 - 03/29/12 06:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I was feeling pretty desperate at the time and really confused. It felt nice to get it all out of my system.





That's kind of what we decided about our friend.  He needed to get out a lot of resentment he was harboring and we were a safe place.  Unfortunately when he came down he couldn't face us and hid out for the rest of the week and then dropped us as friends. :shrug:

Side note I saw him the other day in a large field staring at the ground and then walking in small circles only to return to the same spot and stare again. Obviously working out some demons.  Poor guy. The funny/sad part is he's a psychologist and therapist and thinks he's hot shit at it.  I wouldn't trust my dog with him.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Icelander]
    #16014808 - 03/29/12 07:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

E definitely ain't all bliss for me either. It goes about 50/50 either way same as tripping, usually on E when it goes bad it's guilt or (in social situations) social anxiety that's the problem. I've preferred the few times I've had MDA because I've had some really cosmic times on that stuff, MDMA feels very emotionally pushy without the trip side.


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I'm supposed to feel that's fine
I didn't make the world I'm living in
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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #16014836 - 03/29/12 07:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I guess I am lucky then.  I've never had anything but bliss trips. But then I can honestly say out of the many many many trips I've taken of all kinds I've never had a really bad experience.

One of my ex GFs has the same issues with MDMA as you do.  It makes me sad cause it can be so cosmic.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: Icelander]
    #16014858 - 03/29/12 07:30 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I used to love MDMA because I was depressed.

These days I cannot stand the idea of a synthetic high.

The people you meet/associate with are fake people, the experiences you have are fake experiences, but the come down and depressive aftermath is oh, ohhh so real.

All the things you 'learn' are fake and wrong too. Sorry, but it's true! You later get a fake confidence IRL, and all manner of fake fake fake traits.

It makes me frustrated these days to see some hopeless cunts becoming someone else and suppressing all the awkwardness seamlessly as some pathetic paradise emerges in their little drug den.

The only real high is found naturally. It is my suspicion that much of the MDMA high is caused by letting go of unnatural thoughts and letting a natural high emerge which sits on top of the unnatural serotonin levels.

I'm not talking about some friendly, fake smile, naive, 'high on life' natural happiness, I'm talking about being as high as on ecstasy and still being able to think. The cars going past sound so pure, the air is so much fresher... all the traits of the drug experience, but your brain is actually prepared for it.

Beatitude...


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all that is real is you, your friends, your associations... your highs, lows... your life. the rest is unconfirmable rumor. take responsibility for what you think and what you do, try to understand our world from your given vantage point. a broader reality waits beyond death. do not be afraid, we are caught in something amazing.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: circastes] * 1
    #16014865 - 03/29/12 07:33 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you need a good roll to chill the fuck out and stop being a negative Nancy.

WTF is a fake experience???


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16014878 - 03/29/12 07:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

hahaha.

Okay, I'll admit I met this really stupid bitch who was taking MDMA at this shit club, and it was probably speed not MDMA, and I just wanted to punch her in the face, and I don't punch ANYONE in the face...

Well a fake experience is like, thinking you're happy, thinking you're high, and you're just sort of poisoned or overloaded in one area of the brain, and it's better than your measly sober life so you think it's salvation.


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all that is real is you, your friends, your associations... your highs, lows... your life. the rest is unconfirmable rumor. take responsibility for what you think and what you do, try to understand our world from your given vantage point. a broader reality waits beyond death. do not be afraid, we are caught in something amazing.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: circastes]
    #16014895 - 03/29/12 07:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Mushrooms are the real deal though, it truly is sacred. I say this because they are fungi meant for neurological networks, ordained and certified by Mother Nature herself.

Rolls and other synthetics are just kicking the shit out of your brain until it does something.


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Nobody understands what is happening. The best guesses are lies, you can be sure of it.:psychsplit:
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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: circastes] * 2
    #16014911 - 03/29/12 07:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I really don't believe that tbh. Mushrooms are just as sacred as beer.


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16014953 - 03/29/12 07:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

The last time I did a 5g mushroom trip, my big revelation was 'nothing is sacred.'


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: White Beard]
    #16014991 - 03/29/12 07:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Well I don't get anything revealed to me, I just end up in a whole other universe, and I think, "fuuuckkk..."


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Nobody understands what is happening. The best guesses are lies, you can be sure of it.:psychsplit:
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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: circastes]
    #16015010 - 03/29/12 07:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Your "Church"? [Re: The Human Floyd]
    #16015017 - 03/29/12 08:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

My church?

The places in which I root myself and where nature is rooted as well.

In the arms of my lover, or in the sprawling arms of an oak tree... At the base of some old cottonwood listening to the leaves dance in the wind with a sound akin to rushing water... At the edge of some pond watching a Great Blue Heron hunting with the songs of red winged black birds permeating the area...  The soft sound of lapping water on the edge of a large body of water as the sky sets it aglow as the sun sinks behind the horizion... The feeling I get after being in a rainy forest all day and the cold has set deep into my bones, my mind is slowed and at peace, while seemingly humming with the living world around me...

That is church to me.

A little slice of my home


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