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 Alan Rockefeller
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 Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread  [Re: MacMerdin]
#16146953 - 04/27/12 03:09 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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MacMerdin said:
So, they are agrocybes?
Could be.
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Doesn't the print color look purplish?
It does look slightly darker and more purple than I would expect for Agrocybe.
Maybe closer to Leratiomyces percevalii.
It could also be a Stropharia species.
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MacMerdin
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Thanks Alan. I think you might be correct with the Leratiomyces percevalii. I looked at pictures and some do look like the ones I found.
I went out again today to find nothing BTW.
Either they don't grow in this particular creek I am looking in or my hunting skills are lacking. Could pollution be a hinderence (i.e. being in a city)?
Does anyone have a sure fire way of finding them?
To those who have found them......care to spare an extra print for research if I can't find any?
Edited by MacMerdin (04/27/12 04:45 PM)
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#16147327 - 04/27/12 04:41 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Did i find maryland Ovoids?
Habitat: 20-30ft away from stream/river, growing at base of a sycamore/sandy, muddy, soil/
Cap: Brown-tan when mature/patchy brown and tan/smooth
Gills: Cinnamon brown/attached/crowded/ Appear to have a pinkish purple tint from spores
Stem: Hollow / whitish / fragile
Brusing: none noticed
Spore print: Waiting
White balance was off soo the color isnt the greatest.
Another group:
All help is highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Grova
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Grova]
#16147481 - 04/27/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Those don't look like Ovoids to me. It is best to keep the season thread clear of ID requests, make a new thread for that. Not trying to be a jerk.
Here are a few photos I took last night as the light was dying. I hit this spot maybe 5 days ago with my bud so I didn't expect much, just wanted to pick up some pins we left. As always it's just great looking for them, great passtime, being out in nature, getting exercise, you can't lose!
  
Kinda proud of this one, a little artsy, even though I didn't mean to be.
It was too late for these poor little gentlemen.
And Koods, your comment about sand is right on the money, they love sandy areas. This has been stated before, but for some reason it is not as popular a tip as "knotweed" or "flooding" (but actually the sand and flooding go hand in hand). If any new guys want some very good info, I suggest you look in the past years Official Ovoid threads, starting in 07 (even though I think that one is called the official bluefoot thread). Particularly pay attention to any post by ShroomyDan, his posts definitely steered me in the right direction.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Toe_Jam]
#16147651 - 04/27/12 05:53 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Toe_Jam said:
Those don't look like Ovoids to me. It is best to keep the season thread clear of ID requests, make a new thread for that. Not trying to be a jerk.
Here are a few photos I took last night as the light was dying. I hit this spot maybe 5 days ago with my bud so I didn't expect much, just wanted to pick up some pins we left. As always it's just great looking for them, great passtime, being out in nature, getting exercise, you can't lose!
Kinda proud of this one, a little artsy, even though I didn't mean to be.
It was too late for these poor little gentlemen.
And Koods, your comment about sand is right on the money, they love sandy areas. This has been stated before, but for some reason it is not as popular a tip as "knotweed" or "flooding" (but actually the sand and flooding go hand in hand). If any new guys want some very good info, I suggest you look in the past years Official Ovoid threads, starting in 07 (even though I think that one is called the official bluefoot thread). Particularly pay attention to any post by ShroomyDan, his posts definitely steered me in the right direction.
are those knotweed stems in your first pic?
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16148505 - 04/27/12 09:01 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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koods said:
But I hope you arent gonna put questionables in your bag with the ovoids!
Pardon my ignorance, but what would happen if you did? Why is it bad to have different species in the same bag? The ovoids couldn't become poisonous just by touching a galerina could they? Please enlighten me.
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Alan Rockefeller
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NoBeginningNoEnd said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what would happen if you did?
Nothing.
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Why is it bad to have different species in the same bag?
Maybe you give the bag to someone without thinking?
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The ovoids couldn't become poisonous just by touching a galerina could they?
No.
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Please enlighten me.
Ok no problem.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#16148552 - 04/27/12 09:13 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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MacMerdin said:
So, they are agrocybes?
Doesn't the print color look purplish?
I'm not arguing with the experts. Didn't think they were active because of the non-bruising.
Oh well....back to the streams.
Look at the color of the stipes of those compared to the pics of the known ovoids. One of the giveaways is that ovoids don't have uniform color pigmentation of the stipe.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16148763 - 04/27/12 10:21 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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koods said:
On another topic... My paper collection bag is now coated with spores, can I cut it up and bury the strips in mulch to get some new domestic patches. If not, how can I put them to use. Don't want to toss them.
Stem butts covered in mycelium are the way to go for starting cultivated patches, just keep the mycelium wrapped in something moist during transport. You can shred the used bags in a blender and then pour it over new wild habitats. Also save the water used to rinse them off and carry it around to bless mulch piles. The power company has been leaving a lot of fresh chips behind as they cut back overgrowth around utility lines.
Any shrooms that are fresh should be printed overnight, they'll even print in the fridge for longer periods if they are kept moist. Removing them from the environment before they can drop a lot of spores reduces chances for new growth. It's easy to rinse the prints off foil into a bowl, then funnel that into a spray bottle. You'll be able to get them to good habitat better than they would by chance. 
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Hygrocybe]
#16150584 - 04/28/12 11:54 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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yeah those dont look right at all tho they look like my invader in my patch, if you're finding those your in the right habitat Quote:
Grova said:
Did i find maryland Ovoids?
Habitat: 20-30ft away from stream/river, growing at base of a sycamore/sandy, muddy, soil/
Cap: Brown-tan when mature/patchy brown and tan/smooth
Gills: Cinnamon brown/attached/crowded/ Appear to have a pinkish purple tint from spores
Stem: Hollow / whitish / fragile
Brusing: none noticed
Spore print: Waiting
White balance was off soo the color isnt the greatest.
Another group:
All help is highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Grova
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MacMerdin said:
So, they are agrocybes?
Doesn't the print color look purplish?
I'm not arguing with the experts. Didn't think they were active because of the non-bruising.
Oh well....back to the streams.
mine never look purple always look brown and always blue and caps can totally green alot im not saying his picture is them too im just saying mine never get purple. holds microscope slide.
if anyone wants a slide warped in foil with no slide cover 100% dry mount PM me for trade , hopefully the stuff doesnt slide off i have traded them before with no problem.
im totally gona get a box of slides and just keep making slides tho i will make foil prints too.
i dunno about you guys but stinging nettle is prevalent in my spot and it grows in and under it. i also noticed its sometimes attracted to plant roots
any who more pix
btw that stream is near but but the spot is way more elevated then it on a hill top near it, near the stream nothing it totally loves its substrate there and nothing else
    
  
i collected alot of myc and tried moving that to spot 2 from my other post tho the wine cape and other stuff myc was really strong in that spot and abit dry, im gona water the spots tomorrow
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Hygrocybe said:
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koods said:
On another topic... My paper collection bag is now coated with spores, can I cut it up and bury the strips in mulch to get some new domestic patches. If not, how can I put them to use. Don't want to toss them.
Stem butts covered in mycelium are the way to go for starting cultivated patches, just keep the mycelium wrapped in something moist during transport. You can shred the used bags in a blender and then pour it over new wild habitats. Also save the water used to rinse them off and carry it around to bless mulch piles. The power company has been leaving a lot of fresh chips behind as they cut back overgrowth around utility lines.
Any shrooms that are fresh should be printed overnight, they'll even print in the fridge for longer periods if they are kept moist. Removing them from the environment before they can drop a lot of spores reduces chances for new growth. It's easy to rinse the prints off foil into a bowl, then funnel that into a spray bottle. You'll be able to get them to good habitat better than they would by chance.
why not go a step further and make an LC to just add
Edited by tweekingTwak (04/28/12 12:06 PM)
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I love hunting ovoids in the ohio river valley but dont live close to it so I dont make the trip that often... I really just hunt them for the fun of finding psychedelic mushrooms in my home state when for years I thought the idea was dumb... IME P.E. are extremely more potent than any ovoid Ive ever eaten, anyone else have this exprience... I mean the potency is greater than most cubes but far less than the PE Ive grown...
Plus wanted to add this to my threads to follow and maybe post a pic or two when Im brave enough..
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Outsmoker]
#16151083 - 04/28/12 02:30 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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MacMerdin said:
I have a few questions especially for koods.
These three are what I found yesterday. Any Idea what these are?
 
Up close print color
Here is where they were found.
Do these areas look promising?
  
Thanks all.
A few questions on hunting:
Are they easy to spot or do you have to dig around?
Those aren't ovoids. Alan knows best. They sorta look like the things that grow in the grass around here, although I havent seen them yet this year. The area you are searching looks a little too woody for these early ovoids, which are growing in very open areas. That sandbar there in your picture isn't built up enough to start growing short vegetation... That is what you are looking for, to be honest, that stream looks a little too small to target your searches.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods] 1
#16151116 - 04/28/12 02:39 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Macmerdin, as for digging around... Some of them have been right out in the open, but the larger flushes are growing in areas that have grasses and weeds that are about the same density of a lawn that hasn't been mowed in a couple weeks. I use a smooth stick that doesn't catch the vegetation, but can push it aside, as I scan underneath. Just do that in a back and forth motion as you walk forward. When you find one, lose the stick and get down on your hands and knees are really look around and chances are you'll find a lot more. More often than not, they are arranged n a linear fashion along an unseen piece of wood.
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NoBeginningNoEnd said:
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koods said:
But I hope you arent gonna put questionables in your bag with the ovoids!
Pardon my ignorance, but what would happen if you did? Why is it bad to have different species in the same bag? The ovoids couldn't become poisonous just by touching a galerina could they? Please enlighten me.
No, I just mean if you throw something questionable I your bag of ovoids you have to be extra careful to fish it out. And while potential poisons aren't going to ruin the good stuff, the bluing reaction could rub off onto a nonbluing mushroom and make it appear to be bluing as well.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Hygrocybe]
#16151215 - 04/28/12 03:13 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Hygrocybe said:
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koods said:
On another topic... My paper collection bag is now coated with spores, can I cut it up and bury the strips in mulch to get some new domestic patches. If not, how can I put them to use. Don't want to toss them.
Stem butts covered in mycelium are the way to go for starting cultivated patches, just keep the mycelium wrapped in something moist during transport. You can shred the used bags in a blender and then pour it over new wild habitats. Also save the water used to rinse them off and carry it around to bless mulch piles. The power company has been leaving a lot of fresh chips behind as they cut back overgrowth around utility lines.
Any shrooms that are fresh should be printed overnight, they'll even print in the fridge for longer periods if they are kept moist. Removing them from the environment before they can drop a lot of spores reduces chances for new growth. It's easy to rinse the prints off foil into a bowl, then funnel that into a spray bottle. You'll be able to get them to good habitat better than they would by chance.
I keep stem butts for making new patches... I'm not asking to compare methods of creating new patches, nor am I that interested in systematically making spore prints. I just want to know what to do with these incidental spore prints on the bag and on the paper towels in my desecator. Can I just place Them in the right environment or do I have to work them up in some special way?
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16151262 - 04/28/12 03:32 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Thanks Koods.
I am totally frustrated right now. I spent most of the day today searching streams, creeks and rivers. Nothing.
I've searched sand bars. i've searched sand bars elevated with small vegetation. Nothing.
I've searched flood plains. Nothing.
At this point I'm ready to give up.
No offense to the person who posted to read the previous years threads for info, I'd rather spend my time hunting at this point, so if someone could direct me to that sweet spot, I'd appreciate it.
BTW. I don't know anyone who hunts, so finding someone with more experience is impossible.
Hope I didn't offend anyone but I am totally frustrated when someone says they look for about 5 minutes and find them and I spend hours, hike miles, stove my finger and find nothing.
Edited by MacMerdin (04/28/12 03:42 PM)
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#16151280 - 04/28/12 03:39 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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MacMerdin said:
I am totally frustrated right now. I spent most of the day today searching streams, creeks and rivers. Nothing.
Redefine success by looking for all mushrooms, not just psilocybin containing species. Collect the edible ones for dinner and collect the poisonous ones to show to your friends.
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No offense to the person who posted to read the previopus years threads for info, I'd rather spend my time hunting at this point, so if someone could direct me to that sweet spot, I'd appreciate it.
Maybe you should drive to a place where they actually exist.
http://mushroomobserver.org/name/map/5649
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BTW. I don't know anyone who hunts, so finding someone with more experience is impossible.
Try a mycological society.
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 is solid advice, and following it will result in many more "successful" hunts in the future.
I love how you formulate your responses Alan
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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MacMerdin said:
I am totally frustrated right now. I spent most of the day today searching streams, creeks and rivers. Nothing.
Redefine success by looking for all mushrooms, not just psilocybin containing species. Collect the edible ones for dinner and collect the poisonous ones to show to your friends.
I've only found the ones I posted above so far. And a few Agrocybes but that is it. As far as I'm aware, there aren't edibles that grow where ovoids do?
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No offense to the person who posted to read the previopus years threads for info, I'd rather spend my time hunting at this point, so if someone could direct me to that sweet spot, I'd appreciate it.
Maybe you should drive to a place where they actually exist.
http://mushroomobserver.org/name/map/5649
I'm right in the middle of 2 points on that map. Plus I'm around Koods.....so I'm assuming I'm in the right areas.
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BTW. I don't know anyone who hunts, so finding someone with more experience is impossible.
Try a mycological society.
Any idea how to find one? Good idea though.
BTW...why is it so hard to get a print from someone when they are legal? I've asked quite a few people in this thread alone.
But, yet people are talking about picking them and starting spawn which is totally illegal?
Edited by MacMerdin (04/28/12 03:51 PM)
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#16151324 - 04/28/12 03:51 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Just search on google for mycologist society in your general area. (example: Seattle area mycology society) You will probably find something, or get an idea of the direction to look. They are pretty common in areas where fungi are prevalent
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