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 Zulu The Most High
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 A thread for current first time PF tek'kers 
#15997754 - 03/26/12 10:25 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Since there are currently around 6-7 of us seemingly, who are pf teking for the first time, I made this thread so we can share and compare
This way we dont have to continue hijacking jsad's thread lol
Peace and good luck to all
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Lothar
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I just inoclulated my first grow on Friday the 23rd. Did 48 PF 1/2 pint jars, no sign of anything yet, although I'm not expecting anything for at least a week, the temps are a bit low. Not in a rush. Also did my first liquid culture with leftover spores. We'll see how that turns out.
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Edited by Lothar (03/26/12 11:01 AM)
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0n3up5hr00m27
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: Lothar]
#15998012 - 03/26/12 11:47 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello, its also my first time growing pf tek, however i decided to grab a few spawn rye bags because they were cheap. I started with 18 jars, 6 inoculated with Penis Envy, 6 with Nepal, and 6 with PF Albino. with my 4th syring i inoculated the 2 3lb spawn bags(i killed one with a hotspot on the heating pad****BEWARE, USE BUFFERS LIKE TOWELS OR CARDBOARD!!!!****) Now this is where it becomes a lil shifty, i birthed my cakes, theyre fine, but what to do with the colonized spawn bag? i originally thought u were supposed to fruit them like a giant cake(which is possible, but a waste)but transcendinglife stepped in and pointed me in the right direction, and told me to spawn the bag to bulk. so hours later after a bit of trollin on the shroomery for some insight and construction i have two nice monotubs, one is sterilized/pasteurized and inoculated now(Good luck!!!). my advise is read read read. i did not and therefore bit off a bit more than i could chew with spawning to bulk on my first ever mushroom grow lol but i guess one could say i lit a nice hot fire under my ass to get movin and look at the BIG picture if u get my drift ;P. no more cakes for me unless i wanna lil snack HA!
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 AlabamaApe
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: 0n3up5hr00m27]
#15998062 - 03/26/12 12:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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sup guys
starting my first PF tek here. I started going with tons and tons of quart jars full of mexis, atl, tamps, and some cubes. ALL contammed due to a completely different setting, attitude, and procedure. I have gone to agar work since for the last two months. I am innoculating a rack of pint LC's with HIGHLY rhizomorphic isolates of Syzygy and PESA today. PESHA and PE should be in a good isolate form this week as well (BTW does penis envy mycelium look F*#*$*ed up on agar or what?! after seeing this PESA mycelium all other mushroom mycelium just looks like contams haha.
Anyway, 5 racks of half pints (squatty from kerr) coming. I have the bags the size of a human being of verm and perlite, about 20 lbs of brown rice flour too. I have a cleanroom that is a fullsize bedroom with tile that has been refitted with a dry heating element, constant flowhood turbulence, and wire shelving.
It's going down. Glad to be in this thread!!!! 
(oh yeah, supplementing my PF cakes with flax flour etc in some tubs, doing side by side comparisons of a few things with these isolates  )
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: AlabamaApe]
#15998719 - 03/26/12 03:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for making a thread, Zulu! I was feeling bad about hijacking the shit out of Jsad's.. haha
Also, sorry to hear you lost some jars to contams, if the others don't smell and look okay, you should hopefully be okay! *Fingers crossed*
To recap for new thread, I'm doing 12 jars BRF pf tek 1/2 pint, 1 Honey LC, 2 WBR pint grain jars, and 1 quart BRF to spawn. (Yes, it's weird, I'm just doing it to see what happens. )
Inoculated on 3/17/12, saw first growth of myc on 3/22/12 at 10:30 am.
I'll post a picture of the jars I've got later today when I get home. They're running the gamut from no growth to maybe 15-20%.
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: PlasterFig] 1
#15999108 - 03/26/12 04:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Great thread! Not a complete newbie, but, new enough that I still need all the help I can get and want to learn more all the time. Still unsure of alot of things and with so much info out there its hard to know what to do...or not to do.
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Organism
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: Krayken]
#15999335 - 03/26/12 05:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I'll also recap.
My buddy knocked up 10 half pint jars with Golden Teacher on 3/15. This is his first attempt at cultivation, though he's been contemplating it for years. On 3/20 the first myc growth was spotted . Since the first signs of growth they have been taking off like wildfire.
Unaware that pan cyans need a slightly different substrate he went ahead and ordered a syringe. Upon further investigation he realized he should try his hand at cubes first, so he did. The pan cyan syringe is in the fridge.
To his delight my buddy found two huge truckloads of horse poo at one of his favorite hiking spots yesterday and plans on returning with gallon zip-loc bags to collect said poo. This was nothing short of a small miracle since all he could find at Agway was dehydrated cow poo that was neither dehydrated or cow poo. It instead resembled mud with many sticks, twigs, and rocks mixed in. The other option was to awkwardly ask the local horse stables if he could walk their fields and collect horse excrement.
My buddy plans on starting the pans shortly after he births the cubes. He's very excited about the pans as he prefers to completely lose his marbles as opposed to the more mellow psychodelic experience. Since lsd is very hard to come by, my buddy is hoping the pans will be the ticket to get him where he needs to go.
So 9 out of 10 jars of G.T. are close to 50% colonization with no signs of contams as of 3/26. They will hopefully be birthed in the next 2 weeks.
My buddy will be buying more 1/2 pint jars and be using this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12165374#12165374 to start the pan cyans within the next couple of days.
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Lothar
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: Organism]
#15999520 - 03/26/12 05:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Organism said:
The other option was to awkwardly ask the local horse stables if he could walk their fields and collect horse excrement.
At least being a shit-disturber will finally pay off..
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Edited by Lothar (03/26/12 05:59 PM)
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 Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: Lothar]
#15999771 - 03/26/12 06:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I'm growing for the first time too. Inoculated 7 BRF jars (7 Koh Sumais and 2 Australians) on 3/6, then 13 more jars on 3/13 (5 Cambodian, 5 Amazons, and 3 Australians) as well as 3 Honey LCs (Koh, Cambodian, and Amazon)
All of my Koh Sumai jars failed including the LC. Pretty sure it was just a bunk syringe. The 2 Aussies that I knocked up on the 6th are at the tail end of their final week of colonization. The rest of the jars are about 75-90% with 0 being lost to contams so far (wooo!). I live in the northeast and have no control over the temp of my apartment (old building with radiators) but got lucky with a week of perfect weather for 75 degree room temps. Tomorrow I'll be getting my SGFC ready.
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: MisterFatt]
#15999806 - 03/26/12 06:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well, after spending the afternoon tracking down vermiculite in my area, i'm ready to start my tek. Crazy but part of me wishes I just bought one of those crap kits. Yes I am making things to my own specs, and I am trying to avoid buying so many things online and use brick and mortar stores, but shop owners really make it difficult. If someone calls you and asks if you carry and item, then asks "are you sure you have it on the shelves" don't tell them you have plenty just to get then to travel an hour by public transportation and show up to hear "well I don't carry it on the actual shelves but I can order it"
Sorry for the bitch-fest. Anyone else have problems finding what they need locally? I'm shocked at the number of garden centers that don't carry things like verm, peat moss,gypsum, perilite, or manure.
Ok, going to the kitchen to grind myself some rice flour!
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: OptimusPrime]
#15999828 - 03/26/12 07:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Here are some cakes fruiting (2nd day today). They just starting showing yesterday and have doubled in size already.
(z-strain)
 
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: OptimusPrime]
#15999848 - 03/26/12 07:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
OptimusPrime said:
Well, after spending the afternoon tracking down vermiculite in my area, i'm ready to start my tek. Crazy but part of me wishes I just bought one of those crap kits. Yes I am making things to my own specs, and I am trying to avoid buying so many things online and use brick and mortar stores, but shop owners really make it difficult. If someone calls you and asks if you carry and item, then asks "are you sure you have it on the shelves" don't tell them you have plenty just to get then to travel an hour by public transportation and show up to hear "well I don't carry it on the actual shelves but I can order it"
Sorry for the bitch-fest. Anyone else have problems finding what they need locally? I'm shocked at the number of garden centers that don't carry things like verm, peat moss,gypsum, perilite, or manure.
Ok, going to the kitchen to grind myself some rice flour!
I too bought a kit online until I started reading here... Oh well. Since then I bought rye flour instead of BRF since I cannot find BRF anywhere near me... I was able to find verm and perlite at lowes/home depot/ace... I also have a sterile LC waiting to be inoculated with the best looking shroom from my first grow. I think I will experiment with different substrates and see which yields the highest. Thinking of mung beans and popcorn to compare with rye/verm mix. I also started to make a FC that a humidifier attaches to. I plan on using that when I learn how to case.
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junders
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First time PF Tek'r here. inoculated my 5 jars on Thursday. I also made a LC. Tutorials that I used:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613/fpart/1
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5238137#5238137
Its going OK so far I guess. I haven't seen much growth on either. I think I put way too much honey in my LC so I don't have much faith in it. But my jars need more time before I lose faith. Gotta have patience!
Question to the pros: when should I start seeing visible growth inside of my BRF jars?
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: junders]
#15999945 - 03/26/12 07:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Within 2 weeks I read and experienced within 1 week for mine I saw growth. (not a pro tho)
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ascensionRA
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What the hell, I'll jump in here. Started my first PF Tek late last week, and inoculated 10 1/2 pint Golden Teachers on 3/23. I've been watching them like a hawk since then. I noticed the mycelium starting up this morning, and several off my jars have taken off like gangbusters. Just under 72 hours for the process. SO stoked! 
Trying to be diligent and update my grow log, and can't freaking wait.
IF contam were to arise, when could I reasonably expect to see it? (sorry for asking, but can't find a straight answer after MULTIPLE forum searches)
The vendor who sent me my syringe threw in an "Aussie strain" for free, which is sitting in my fridge at the moment. I decided to take some baby steps and make sure this first grow went right. I was SUPER careful with the inoculation process and probably killed every microbe within a 20 ft radius of my workspace with the amount of alcohol that was flying around and getting wiped everywhere...anyway, here's hoping. If this continues to go as well as it appears at the moment, the next few weeks are going to be awesome. No pics to post yet, as the jars are just starting to develop the white fuzzies. 
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: ascensionRA]
#16001201 - 03/27/12 12:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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well, I made my flour, and mixed all my stuff for BRF cakes. they are all set up and in the PC as we speak. I will inoculate them in the morning. I hope everything turns out ok. I really wanted to make and use TranscendingLife's Lid TekSo I made them last night. Unfortunately Home Depot, Ace, and my neighborhood hardware store did not have the specific RTV gasket gel he suggested. The guy at Home Depot swore to me that Liquid Nail's 100% silicone gel would work the same was and the container claims it's for extreme temps but doesn't say specifically what temps. The filters turned out great and look sturdy but the injection holes feel a little too soft after curing for 16+hrs. I'm hoping the PC will just make it cure more and as solid as it is around the filters otherwise I have no idea what will happen.
I also made 6 of TL's LC lids. I plan to you TL's Grain Liquid Culture Tek, with some grain jars.
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: ascensionRA]
#16001210 - 03/27/12 12:05 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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IF contam were to arise, when could I reasonably expect to see it? (sorry for asking, but can't find a straight answer after MULTIPLE forum searches)
You can get contaims anytime. Just depends on how clean you and your work is. Plus if you pq'ed right Good luck
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Started my brf pf tel on 3/14, no growth for the first week or so but now I've got growth on 7/10 jars,all GT's in 1/2 pint jars. Once the mycelium shows itself its been growing pretty fast. I have 3 more cube syringes, should they be in the fridge? I've read a few people doing that just never really thought of it. They're in a drawer now. Thanks
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First timer here as well. Knocked up some Eq's and PESH exactly 26 days ago. The pesh are pretty slow and stalled for a while but are getting there. The Eq's colonized completely by day 23. Whicked rhizos. Just put my first 2 jars of them in the shotgun FC after a 24 hour dunk and roll. Can't wait. Good luck to all.
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Re: A thread for current first time PF tek'kers [Re: Galorian]
#16001792 - 03/27/12 02:37 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Recently shut down my first shot at the PF tek but with modifications. Very good luck! Most of the 18 cakes (PE and Golden Teacher) flushed 3-4 times over the course of about 8-10 weeks of each cake beginning to pin.
Contrary to some advice, I used about 5" of perlite (hydrogen proxided, about 1 TBS for each gallon of water) which was soaking wet almost to the surface. Cakes on plastic yogurt tops. A double fish tank areator with one hose to a bubbler in a 1/2 pint jar of water sunk in the perlite, and the other hose (no bubbler) placed underneath the perlite and discharging fresh air right above the subersable fish tank heater. Drip shield was prob very important, humid made a small rain forrest in there. (The heater was in tub of water filled to about 6" and the fruiting chamber was a slightly smaller tub floating in tub #1.)
The tub in a tub allowed me to manage temps great, and the double air into the fruiting chamber pushed humids to the top while exchanging CO2 for fresh air because the fruiting chamber's lid was not air tight. No fanning, no misting, and once things really started the fruiting chamber seemed to just churn out the shrooms. Picked them almost every day for weeks.
Placed an 18" flouro light, with a grow light bulb in it, on the clear plexiglass glued to the cut-out top of the main tub. Never figured out what amout of light was best, maybe ambient light negated some or all of the need for the grow light.
Not all cakes were ready at the beginning so I made yet a third small tub that went into the tub in the tub. This little tub, completely covered with foil so no light, held the cakes that were not yet completely colonized while birthed cakes were producing mushrooms.
Last, I followed the "dunk and roll" procedure at the start and after each flush.
Hmm, that's about it. I had a great first time.
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