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 I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me 
#15983792 - 03/23/12 12:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I met this girl. Really great, really nice, smart, normal, funny and happy. She's Jewish.
One day I asked her what her theological views were, expecting her to say that she liked the culture of judaism but didn't take the "fairytale" stuff seriously. Instead I got a vague answer where she basically implied that she believed creationism and stuff, at least on some level.
This horrified me. How could a free thinking individual actually believe something which has absolutely no evidence behind it except some scroll? It just defies logic and reason, and I can't see her the same way.
I know I'm overreacting, but it's just so foreign to me. I don't have a single friend who believes that shit, and have only known 1 or 2 people in my entire life who were religious to the point where I knew about it.
It just doesn't make sense to me
Edited by Anonymous (03/23/12 12:14 AM)
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Anonymous #2
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15983906 - 03/23/12 12:39 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Im with ya man. Both my parents were raised in hard core religious families and neither of them ever went to church again after they moved out. My mom went to school with nuns that would beat the kids and my dad was forced to give sermons at his church when he was only 8. At least they didn't come out of it totally brain washed
Im at LSU now and we have a thing we call "Go to Hell Tuesday". Snake handlers and other crazy religious folk gather in the free speech alley in front of the student union and the stuff they spout is just unbelievable. They even have their brainwashed kids wearing signs next to them while they scream at every student who walks by.
Google Brother Jed, all this guy does is travel around to colleges and do this (check images to see the sweet staff he carries)
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Anonymous #3
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15983920 - 03/23/12 12:43 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Religious people are fucking stupid.
And dude, stay the hell away from Jewish people for your own good.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15984327 - 03/23/12 03:32 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you're overreacting. You would be wary of someone if they told you they still honestly believe in santa claus, wouldn't you?
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Anonymous #5
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #3]
#16014650 - 03/29/12 06:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #3 said:And dude, stay the hell away from Jewish people for your own good.
 Care to elaborate on this?
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Anonymous #6
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #1]
#16014758 - 03/29/12 07:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Believing in god is schizophrenia because you believe something you're imagining exists
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Anonymous #4
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #6]
#16014763 - 03/29/12 07:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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No, it's just delusional.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16015968 - 03/29/12 10:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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You know, I don't believe for a second that anyone who claims to believe in fairytale religion actually believes it. Not deep down. I don't know, I just can't believe the majority of people are that retarded. That would scare the living shit out of me. I think it's just some kind of charade, an excuse for shared culture and basis for life principles. Of course they need to claim to believe it in order to make the culture work. They might even fool themselves, but some part of their minds must realize it is ridiculous.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16018124 - 03/30/12 09:53 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #7 said:
You know, I don't believe for a second that anyone who claims to believe in fairytale religion actually believes it. Not deep down. I don't know, I just can't believe the majority of people are that retarded. That would scare the living shit out of me. I think it's just some kind of charade, an excuse for shared culture and basis for life principles. Of course they need to claim to believe it in order to make the culture work. They might even fool themselves, but some part of their minds must realize it is ridiculous.
Yes, I want to believe this to be true also. It's....difficult to imagine a world being this populated with IDiots/creationists. They can't all possibly believe some of that stuff. Wow. Dinosaur fossils were carefully strewn about our planet to test our faith? Come on, nobody can believe that.
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Anonymous #9
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #8]
#16018620 - 03/30/12 12:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #8 said:
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Anonymous #7 said:
You know, I don't believe for a second that anyone who claims to believe in fairytale religion actually believes it. Not deep down. I don't know, I just can't believe the majority of people are that retarded. That would scare the living shit out of me. I think it's just some kind of charade, an excuse for shared culture and basis for life principles. Of course they need to claim to believe it in order to make the culture work. They might even fool themselves, but some part of their minds must realize it is ridiculous.
Yes, I want to believe this to be true also. It's....difficult to imagine a world being this populated with IDiots/creationists. They can't all possibly believe some of that stuff. Wow. Dinosaur fossils were carefully strewn about our planet to test our faith? Come on, nobody can believe that.
I believe that some christians truely believe what they say. That being said, I would say most of them are "just in case" christians. The ones that go out partying Saturday night and repent Sunday Morning. However, other religions are fanatical. Even the least extreme muslim still could turn into a radical at the drop of a hat. All it takes is one mispoken word about Muhammad or a drawing they find offensive. The world would be better off without religion, that is for sure.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #1]
#16019826 - 03/30/12 05:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #1 said:
This horrified me. How could a free thinking individual actually believe something which has absolutely no evidence behind it except some scroll?
You're thinking about it the wrong way. I could just as easily be horrified at your use of the word "I", implying that you believe yourself to be an autonomous free agent, some kind of homunculus living in your pineal gland. The idea is absurd to me, there's no evidence for such a thing except in some dictionary. How could a literate person actually believe they represent anything more than a collection of arbitrarily conserved but essentially undifferentiated electric impulses?
I can't understand people, they are like aliens to me. 
Edited by Anonymous (03/30/12 05:56 PM)
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #10]
#16019874 - 03/30/12 05:51 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hope that helps, I didn't mean it to be a flame but to illustrate that religious people are not as different from you as you think they are.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #10]
#16020224 - 03/30/12 07:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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How is the conservation of electrical impulses (read "experience") arbitrary? Memory is built on anything but arbitrariness. It is how deeply something hooks into your mind, relates to existing patterns hardwired into your psyche and biology that determines how well you retain it. Memory techniques exploit the fact that if you can turn a seemingly arbitrary sting of letters or characters into a sexual symbol, you can easily remember it. So "I" is not anything like believing that you need to cleanse aliens from a distant planet out of your body to heal your psyche. "I" is your most stable, least ephemeral tendencies, reactions, behavior, modes of perception...
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16020313 - 03/30/12 07:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #7 said:
How is the conservation of electrical impulses (read "experience") arbitrary? Memory is built on anything but arbitrariness.
It's arbitrarily conserved. There is no purpose or meaning to the conservation of the electrical impulses you call your mind. It's powered by entropy. You're kidding yourself if you think "you" are independent and autonomous; you're nothing but energy condensed to a slow vibration, as paraphrased from Bill Hicks, and the essential distinction between your ass and the chair that cushions is purely academic.
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It is how deeply something hooks into your mind, relates to existing patterns hardwired into your psyche and biology that determines how well you retain it. Memory techniques exploit the fact that if you can turn a seemingly arbitrary sting of letters or characters into a sexual symbol, you can easily remember it. So "I" is not anything like believing that you need to cleanse aliens from a distant planet out of your body to heal your psyche. "I" is your most stable, least ephemeral tendencies, reactions, behavior, modes of perception...
"You" are a product of circumstance. The language you use is what's been made accessible to you by forces beyond your control and larger than your comprehension. You seem to be very comfortable expressing yourself this way, and I do not fault you for it. However, I do have a point to make here about the nature of belief, and I hope it's not getting lost in personal considerations.
Edited by Anonymous (03/30/12 07:38 PM)
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Anonymous #2
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16020314 - 03/30/12 07:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Has anyone here seen Religulous? I so what did you think about it?
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #2]
#16020321 - 03/30/12 07:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I love Maher's sense of humor, even at its most juvenile...
The "Florida Holy Land" makes me weep bitter tears of laughter. 
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Anonymous #2
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #10]
#16020333 - 03/30/12 07:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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The gay muslims were pretty ridiculous to. "What are you left with.....Just the blow jobs."
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Anonymous #7
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #2]
#16020344 - 03/30/12 07:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I took too much acid to continue this conversation. I don't know what I? Sorry  
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #7]
#16020347 - 03/30/12 07:38 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #7 said:
I took too much acid to continue this conversation. I don't know what I? Sorry
  
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Anonymous #11
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #10]
#16032555 - 04/02/12 09:25 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Religion is a crutch of the weak. People lean on it because their lives are not fulfilling enough alone.
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Anonymous #12
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #11]
#16032640 - 04/02/12 10:00 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Damn... I didn't know there were so many religiously intolerant people on here.
Every religion has echoes of truth in them. And Most if not all religions are meant to be metaphors and parables existing on a spiritual level.
Yes, Fanatics are the most retarded people in the fucking world because they take what their religions say literally. Fanatics also do not stop and apply reason to the things fed to them, they just eat it up without question. This means that they don't understand it. Thus religion has nothing to do with it.
For example: All those fucks that go around tripping about abortion and homosexuality in the name of christianity have never picked up a bible in their fucking lives! There is only one book of the bible that says that a man is not supposed to have sex with a man but it also says a human should not wear two different cloths at the same time and that people should never interact with a menstrating female otherwise they dirty themselves spiritual, the bible is very much in favor of slavery, etc.
The Bible also says that it will be harder for a rich man to go to heaven than it is for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. And yet look at all these fuckers on television getting rich as FUCK.
But while these fanatics are screaming about dumb shit they are ignoring all the other teachings of their religion: Get rid of tax collectors. These are shown to be the most evil people in the bible - Not homosexuals. Surprise! But of course the government does not want you to get rid of the IRS so they focus your attention on each other.
We should not condemn religion as bad. Rather we should condemn fanaticism as bad. And that means condemning people for swallowing information without thinking about it. I have met so many stupid people that just swallow everything their school tells them without doing the research on their own.
There is so much propaganda. For example, I bet your school told you milk was good for you and you believed it with all your heart and was shocked at the ignorance of others when they said that wasn't true. Look it up.
In fact just look at this fucking video:
It proves that even Science. Your new religion. Is wrong.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #12]
#16034051 - 04/02/12 04:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Nice rant. Anyone who identifies themselves as a follower of this or that religion is, in fact, retarded and might as well be a fanatic.
The scientific method is not a religion.
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Anonymous #13
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #4]
#16034093 - 04/02/12 04:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Personally, I could never be with a religious babe.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #13]  1
#16034107 - 04/02/12 04:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Religious people should be openly mocked in the streets. Too bad they are the majority.
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Anonymous #14
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #12]
#16036869 - 04/03/12 03:45 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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"Damn... I didn't know there were so many religiously intolerant people on here."
I think it may be because a lot of people have had some form of religion forced into their lives whether they like it or not.
I'm still suffering from the mental problems brainwashing as a child has caused but I'll get there.
Religion has only taught me that people like to lie.
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#16039170 - 04/03/12 06:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #10
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #15]
#16039211 - 04/03/12 06:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Furthermore, faith in and of itself is pretty fucking stupid too. What a way to make plugging your ears and repeating "Lalala" sound like a worthwhile practice.
“It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.”
― Philip K. Dick
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Anonymous #13
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #10]
#16039557 - 04/03/12 07:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #15 said:
“It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.”
― Philip K. Dick
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Anonymous #16
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #11]
#16040004 - 04/03/12 09:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #11 said:
Religion is a crutch of the weak. People lean on it because their lives are not fulfilling enough alone.
And is that why you are here, because you need drugs because your life is not fulfilling enough alone?
Just playing devils advocate here, not trying to be a troll!
And to point out grouping everyone who has faith into an all inclusive group, Religious People, is too broad a term.
Can't we agree to say "Fucking crazy Christians" or "fucked-up Muslims" or Butthole Zionist Jews"?
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Anonymous #11
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #16]
#16049286 - 04/05/12 08:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymous #16 said:
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Anonymous #11 said:
Religion is a crutch of the weak. People lean on it because their lives are not fulfilling enough alone.
And is that why you are here, because you need drugs because your life is not fulfilling enough alone?
Just playing devils advocate here, not trying to be a troll!
And to point out grouping everyone who has faith into an all inclusive group, Religious People, is too broad a term.
Can't we agree to say "Fucking crazy Christians" or "fucked-up Muslims" or Butthole Zionist Jews"?
You're right. I was referring mostly to "Fucking Crazy Christians," but didn't really make that clear. It should have read "Fucking Crazy Christians are mentally weak people who lean on their religion like a crutch."
People who are actively practice a religion that they believe in are, for the most part, good people. Having lived in the south some years ago, it became hard to think that all the time. 
...and good point about the drugs. They could say the same about us, and you'd never win an argument with those Fucking Crazy Christians. They scare the christ out of me.
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Anonymous #17
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Re: I can't understand religious people. They are like aliens to me [Re: Anonymous #11]
#16052216 - 04/06/12 12:45 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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People are sheep, if it wasn't religion it would be some other form of mainstream ideology.
Science is the measurement of observations of the reality we share, religion for the most part deals with why its there. Until we figure out the causal problems of existence within the scientific model which would seem to contradict its very causal premise (at this point), I will continue to believe in nothing as absolute.
The difference is that clinically proven observations that I can observe myself in the reality I am apart of (if I wanted to put in the work) are the better choice for how to live my life, as opposed to fairy tales that are only evidenced by subjective anecdote of people I never met, who tell of phenomena I've never seen.
There are many forms of "spiritual" thinking that dont contradict our scientific paradigm as creationism and fairy tales do, nothing to believe in and nothing to believe against, merely something for open minds to consider.
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