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 jimbotron
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 Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority 
#15955125 - 03/16/12 02:14 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/wisconsin-republican-targeted-in-recall-resigns-from-state-senate.php
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Wisconsin state Sen. Pam Galloway (R) is resigning from the chamber today, citing a family health situation. Galloway was one of the targeted incumbents in upcoming recall elections.
This also means that as of now, the Republicans have officially lost their Senate majority, leaving the chamber split 16-16. The recall elections to come will determine who takes the majority...
In addition, the Lieutenant Governor in Wisconsin does not have a tie-breaking vote. There is, however, precedent for a temporary power-sharing agreement that will have to be worked out until the upcoming recalls put the Senate back at its full membership, and presumably a clear majority in the odd-numbered total of seats.
Welcome to Lame Duck, Governor. Population: you.
Real shame that Scott "hnrrrrrk" Walker he won't get a chance to ram through a replacement disenfranchisement scheme at the last minute now, either. Real damn shame about that. Looks like he might have a fair fight on his hands.
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 Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: jimbotron]
#15966918 - 03/19/12 01:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Walker has done some good, he's not all evil. But I like the fact that the GOP lost control. One step closer to decriminalization of cannabis.
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: snoot]
#15966936 - 03/19/12 01:14 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm so sick of you liberal Fuk's in Wisconsin. Deal with reality this is what its become. Thank god for concealed carry .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8cGhzzQtKHA
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Panfish]
#15966970 - 03/19/12 01:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Umm, did you have some uh... train of thought, with that post?
you said "Fuck liberals" "hey watch this fight" and "thank god for CCW's".... did I uh, miss something? Did the liberals vote in favor of the street fight?
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Just showing what this city has become. Liberals support that lifestyle in the video in every action they take .
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Panfish]
#15967032 - 03/19/12 01:45 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Every action they take? Name 7.
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Therian
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Deal with reality this is what its become. Thank god for concealed carry .
I couldn't agree with you more. One thing that absolutely amazes me is the lack of reporting of such incidents in the hyper liberal media.
I recently read the reports on the massive race riots where whites were being targeted by black youths. During one such incident HUNDREDS of black youths terrorized a state fair. They pulled children out of cars and beat them, they pulled several young children off their bicycles and beat them with sticks, kicked them in the face, destroyed houses, robbed the concessions, and terrorized innocent white women and children as they locked themselves in their cars trying to escape. Whole sections of road were shut down as they pulled motorists out of their cars and beat the shit out of them. And this was not the only time this has happened.
Imagine if hundreds of white teens pulled black women and children out of their cars and beat them within an inch of their lives, imagine if they went into black neighborhoods and destroyed their business, houses, cars, and beat everyone in site. Jackson and Sharpton would be on every media outlet proclaiming how racism is alive and flourishing in the U.S., and I'm sure Obama would agree. Where is the beer summit on the white house when hundreds of white women and children are beaten? I guess we only need a summit when a negro professor is asked for identification.
Of course even though all of the several hundred perpetrators were Negros and all the victims of the violence were white, the liberals would have you believe these somehow can't be considered as "hate crimes" and of course they weren't racially motivated.
http://wisconserve.com/2011/08/05/recent-race-riots-at-wisconsin-state-fair-and-around-milwaukee/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-black-mobs-attack-white-patrons-outside-wis-state-fair/
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/08/black_teenagers_mob_race_riot_wisonsin_state_fair.php?page=3
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Therian]
#15971494 - 03/20/12 01:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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What do you suppose caused it?
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DieCommie
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HarveyWalbanger said:
What do you suppose caused it?
Caused what? The racist hatred or the acting on racist hatred? In either case I doubt you can make sense of it, its a senseless act to commit such violence.
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Therian] 1
#15971700 - 03/20/12 02:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Therian said:
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Deal with reality this is what its become. Thank god for concealed carry .
I couldn't agree with you more. One thing that absolutely amazes me is the lack of reporting of such incidents in the hyper liberal media.
I recently read the reports on the massive race riots where whites were being targeted by black youths. During one such incident HUNDREDS of black youths terrorized a state fair. They pulled children out of cars and beat them, they pulled several young children off their bicycles and beat them with sticks, kicked them in the face, destroyed houses, robbed the concessions, and terrorized innocent white women and children as they locked themselves in their cars trying to escape. Whole sections of road were shut down as they pulled motorists out of their cars and beat the shit out of them. And this was not the only time this has happened.
Imagine if hundreds of white teens pulled black women and children out of their cars and beat them within an inch of their lives, imagine if they went into black neighborhoods and destroyed their business, houses, cars, and beat everyone in site. Jackson and Sharpton would be on every media outlet proclaiming how racism is alive and flourishing in the U.S., and I'm sure Obama would agree. Where is the beer summit on the white house when hundreds of white women and children are beaten? I guess we only need a summit when a negro professor is asked for identification.
Of course even though all of the several hundred perpetrators were Negros and all the victims of the violence were white, the liberals would have you believe these somehow can't be considered as "hate crimes" and of course they weren't racially motivated.
http://wisconserve.com/2011/08/05/recent-race-riots-at-wisconsin-state-fair-and-around-milwaukee/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-black-mobs-attack-white-patrons-outside-wis-state-fair/
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/08/black_teenagers_mob_race_riot_wisonsin_state_fair.php?page=3
Do you live in Wisconsin?
I live like a mile from this and what you say happened isn't even close to what happened.
Jesus Fucking Christ, at least get your facts straight.
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Therian
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Jesus Fucking Christ, at least get your facts straight.
Jesus fucking christ, were you there? Read the links, you can find dozens of them. Read the police reports and first hand accounts from the police that were hospitalized as well as others. Read what the black leaders had to say about it. Look at the videos of the aftermath. See how a whole fucking state fair was shut down. See how minors are no longer allowed to attend without parents.
Yes it is a gigantic right wing conspiracy made up of hundreds of white civilians that decided to hurt and hospitalize themselves and their children to make the Negros look bad.
Here is just one such account from someone that was actually there.
“I saw them grab this white kid who was probably 14 or 15 years old. They just flung him into the road. They just jumped on him and started beating him. They were kicking him. He was on the ground. A girl picked up a construction sign and pushed it over on top of him. They were just running by and kicking him in the face.”
Then, Eric talked about trying to get out of the car to help the victim.
“My wife pulled me back in because she didnt’t want me to get hit. Thankfully, there was surprising a lady that was in the car in front of me that jumped out of the car real quick and went over there to try to put her body around the kid so they couldn't’t see he was laying there and, obviously, defenseless. Her husband, or whoever was in the car, was screaming at her to get back into the car. She ended up going back into the car. These black kids grabbed this kid off the ground again, and pulled him up over the curb, onto the sidewalk and threw him into the bushes like he was a piece of garbage.”
Once again I didn't say this but those that were attending the fair, I guess the police also threw bottles at themselves. Jesus fucking christ you're brilliant.
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Therian]
#15971914 - 03/20/12 03:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I was literally there.
Hundreds of people didn't participate.
Hundreds of people weren't hospitalized.
That is an out-and-out lie.
A fabrication.
A complete mis-truth.
*12* people were injured.
TWELVE FUCKING PEOPLE.
Not "HUNDREDS"
No houses were destroyed, no businesses mobbed.
*ONE* solitary, lone, single cop got hit with a bottle.
It was nothing.
Nothing.
It was twenty or thirty kids. Arrested for disorderly conduct.
OMG! RIOT!
Where is twenty kids a fucking riot? Fucking Wichita?
Get the fuck out of town.
If you're going to try to start some racist bullshit, at least make sure nobody you're talking was there to tell you the truth first.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html
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You make me laugh my ass off. I'M THE ONE that is trying to start some "racist bullshit" I see nearly every account on record states that at least 100 blacks intentionally attack and beat ONLY WHITES, and that somehow make ME a racist? Read the god damned first hand accounts of people/victims state how blacks would walk past cars with other blacks and pull whites out of their cars to assault them.
Look at the news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TWXKXCJOGf8
"The mob attack is the second that appears to be racially motivated in the Milwaukee area this summer. Over the 4th of July, a group of black teenagers attacked white people at a park in the city's Riverwest neighborhood and yelled racial taunts at their victims."
If you yell racial slurs while you beat innocent people doesn't that constitute a hate crime? Yep I guess I must be the racist again.
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Hundreds of people didn't participate.
I'm sure if you were there you were too busy running away to notice but this from CNN
Milwaukee has recently fallen victim to multiple race riots involving black youths brutally attacking white people at random. Opening day at the Wisconsin State Fair ended with nearly 300 black youths randomly attacking and robbing white people as they exited the fair. These attacks are clearly race related thus making it a hate crime, but prosecutors are hesitant to label it as such for fear of backlash from the black community. This is ridiculous in itself... Milwaukee Police Chief, who is black, has made a public statement calling for stronger black leadership in the city. This kind of behavior, from any group of people, is unacceptable today in what SHOULD BE a civilized society!
And from the local news
The recent “race riots” at the Wisconsin State Fair and around Milwaukee are becoming much too frequent and troubling. Yesterday, a mob of 200-300 black youths wreaked havoc on the opening day of the Wisconsin State Fair by terrorizing white attendees with beatings and looting. As one could imagine, State Fair Police and Security were caught completely off guard.
But the attacks didn’t stop there. Outside the fairgrounds, motorists were attacked in their cars while others were dragged off their motorcycles and beaten along 84th street.
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No houses were destroyed, no businesses mobbed
"The youths also damaged a number of homes and property in their war-path."
Here are just some of the police reports. Yeah when someone reports that large groups of blacks are chasing down whites and beating them, this does not constitute a riot.
Listen to some of the 911 calls where people are saying "a bunch of guys pulled my mom out of her car and began punching her and she is bleeding all over"
22:48 ~ State Fair P.D. advised us that they shut the park down early because of a large amount of fights. They report large groups of people leaving the grounds.
22:59 ~ 9-1-1 call received in regards to group of 25 black youths assaulting State Fair worker around 81/Greenfield.
23:00 ~ 9-1-1 call received in regards to fight at front entrance of State Fair. People are everywhere. Groups of people chasing white people.
23:01 ~ Call received indicating people are leaving State Fair and heading to 84/Greenfield.
23:08 ~ State Fair P.D. reports that people are walking on cars near 84/Schlinger.
23:10 ~ Groups jumping on cars at 84/Schlinger.
23:11 ~ Angry mob, fights, wrong way drivers, people running in traffic, at 84/Schlinger.
23:12 ~ Fight at 1000 S. 84 St.
23:14 ~ Kids obstructing traffic and hitting cars.
23:15 ~ Person assaulted and has a knot on the head at 84/Schlinger. Party going to hospital on own.
23:16 ~ Victim punched in face at 84/Walker by group. Medical denied.
23:17 ~ State Fair P.D. reports fights and people jumping on cars at 84/Greenfield.
23:18 ~ Mob pulled male and female from motorcycle at 84/Adler. Female was dragged and has fat lip.
23:18 ~ Mobs hitting cars at 84/Schlinger.
23:21 ~ Victim jumped and almost robbed at 87/McMyron.
23:24 ~ Group of guys have a gun in a car near 85/Walker.
23:25 ~ Group of guys jumping people near 85/Walker. One had a gun.
23:26 ~ People running through yards. One bike stolen.
23:30 ~ Kids hitting cars at 84/Walker.
23:30 ~ Police report large fight at 84/Greenfield.
23:30 ~ Group attack male at 88/Greenfield.
23:33 ~ Kid getting pummeled by a group at 84/Schlinger.
23:34 ~ Kids jump guy at 76/Washington.
23:34 ~ State Fair P.D. report fight at 84/Greenfield.
23:35 ~ Fight reported at 85/Greenfield.
23:37 ~ Riot at 84/Greenfield. Wife has black eye and bloody lip. Refuse to report incident.
23:37 ~ Possible beating and man with gun at 76/Walker.
23:38 ~ Fight and theft at 87/McMyron.
23:39 ~ Police requesting help at McDonald’s. Under control at 2340.
23:39 ~ Victim got hit by group of kids at 76/Walker.
23:40 ~ Teenagers assaulted male at 76/Walker.
23:43 ~ Fight at 76/Walker.
23:44 ~ Male assaulted by group. Bleeding, but medical refused.
23:51 ~ Homeless person beat up at 76/Greenfield.
23:51 ~ Caller got hit in face by group.
23:51 ~ Fight at 86/Greenfield.
23:51 ~ Fight at 76/Washington.
23:53 ~ 20-25 people ran in and out of gas station at 76/Greenfield at stole stuff.
23:55 ~ Mutual aid requested – MCSO. MCSO is responding.
23:57 ~ Male assaulted by group at 86/Greenfield.
23:57 ~ Caller was almost robbed by group at 87/McMyron.
00:01 ~ Police report fight at 76/Greenfield.
00:45 ~ Mutual aid canceled.
You said ONE cop was injured well you're full of shit. By ALL accounts ( with the exception of yours of course) state it was racially charged, and read some of the police transcripts, eg. groups of negro men, some with guns are assaulting whites" yep, therian is the racist here, and how many excuses for armed gangs do you need to come up with.
"Seven State Fair cops were injured in the melee, two of them seriously enough to go to the hospital."
"One of our officers was hit in the face with an improvised weapon. He was hospitalized," said Tom Streuberg, chief of police for the State Fair. "A second officer was hit in the back of the head. He received a concussion and he was also hospitalized."
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: Therian]
#15972269 - 03/20/12 05:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Again, talk to someone who was there.
I linked to the local newspaper.
You linked to Youtube.
I talked about the actual event.
You talked about some shit in Riverwest, on the other side of town.
I said it was like 30 kids.
You posted police reports saying it was like 30 kids...
Wait...What?
So I was right?
I know.
Thanks, come again.
Plz in the future stick to shit that someone else doesn't have first-hand knowledge of.
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
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Therian
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Again, talk to someone who was there.
I linked to the local newspaper.
You linked to Youtube.
I posted three links from the local newspaper, the youtube link was from your local news. All of which had first hand accounts of people that were there you know it is difficult to be a victim of a crime if you are not there.
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You posted police reports saying it was like 30 kids...
Wait...What?
So I was right?
Are you freaking high? The police reports stated that they had ARRESTED 35 people and were looking for several more.
Also you initially said you live a mile from the place, then you said you were there. So, which is it. I don't think you were there. So I guess the local media, the police, those victimized inside the fair, the fairground workers, those assaulted outside the fair, those assaulted while in their cars, those assaulted on the street, and those assaulted outside of the fairgrounds, the gas station that was looted, and those that were robbed and beaten were all lying....because YOU said so! Sounds like absolute bullshit to me, because it is.
Listen to the 911 calls, look at the above police report and see the addresses. When the cops showed up they left the road they had blocked off and assaulted people elsewhere, not on the fairgrounds.
It was not 20-30 kids when 35 had already been arrested, and cops were searching for others. Where did you learn mathematics, Milwaukee?
http://wisconserve.com/2011/08/05/recent-race-riots-at-wisconsin-state-fair-and-around-milwaukee/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-black-mobs-attack-white-patrons-outside-wis-state-fair/
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/08/black_teenagers_mob_race_riot_wisonsin_state_fair.php?page=3
Each one of these tells of several hundred assailants, by eyewitnesses and victims. Contrary to what YOU say.
Also the utube video is from the local news with a reporter talking to a victim that was actually there.
Ultimately the point being that Panfish was correct. If many of those individuals were carrying a firearm perhaps they would not of been beaten. I guess when you say it was no big deal, tell that to the women that had their faces smashed in, or the kid that was kicked in the face while already unconscious.
I guess when you are pulled out of your vehicle and beaten, you are only the victim of a bunch of racist assholes if your name is rodney king.
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Madtowntripper said:
I live like a mile from this and what you say happened isn't even close to what happened.
According to the news, it is what happened.
His You Tube video link was from NBC.
Here's one from CBS.
Unless watching the news makes one a racist, your charge is bullshit of the foulest smelling kind.
Now, he may be... but linking to news stories that back his claim certainly isn't proof of that.
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#15973088 - 03/20/12 08:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Unless watching the news makes one a racist...
It does. 
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: DieCommie]
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Agreed.
I've decided that he is a racist, and that is that.
My girlfriend tells me every day that I'm the biggest racist she knows, so you can take that with a grain of salt if you'd like.
The fact is, I don't believe this is what happened.
Milwaukee is the most, or one of the most, segregated cities in the country.
If some kids went on a riot in that neighborhood there wouldn't have been any black people w/in fifty blocks for them to beat up or attack.
There just aren't black people in that neighborhood. There are black people in MY neighborhood, but not that neighborhood.
It wasn't a race riot, or a coordinated attack on whites, or some kind of negro uprising.
It was just some stupid kids doing stupid shit at the stupid fucking state fair.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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DieCommie
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It was just some stupid kids doing stupid shit at the stupid fucking state fair.
Oh man, you are too much. White guilt bro - you got it.
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Re: Wisconsin GOP loses Senate majority [Re: DieCommie]
#15975308 - 03/21/12 09:47 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Meh, I doubt it.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, or it wasn't wrong, or that nobody should be punished for it.
I'm just saying it wasn't a huge race riot involving thousands of black kids looking for white people to beat up.
That's all.
The story as reported can pretty easily be twisted to fit whatever point of view anyone wants to make, but the facts are as I've explained them.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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