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 Simplepowa
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 John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' 
#15958948 - 03/17/12 11:36 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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A mother says she is outraged after her son and nine other boys were strip-searched at school on suspicion of carrying drugs in their underwear.
Police arrested two pupils, aged 15 and 16, after searching the group of year 11 boys at John Port School in Etwall, Derbyshire, on 9 March.
Officers had received a tip-off the pupils were sneaking the drugs into the school in their underwear.
The mother, whose son was not arrested, said parents were not told in advance.
She said: "He's just very distraught by it all - very embarrassed. I feel my child has been victimised.
"For police to actively go into the school and physically strip-search your child without your permission or knowledge, I'm outraged as I'm sure any parent would be."
'Zero tolerance'
Police said the operation was carried out using powers provided by the Misuse of Drugs Act.
Insp Paul Cannon said: "We had very specific intelligence about how the drugs were being brought into the school and the fact they were being brought in in the children's underwear.
"We have a duty to investigate criminality and, particularly with drugs, protect vulnerable people from coming into contact with these drugs."
The two boys were arrested on suspicion of possession of controlled drugs and have now been released on bail while inquiries continue.
Head teacher Wendy Sharp said: "We do everything we can at John Port School to keep young people safe. Part of that policy is a zero tolerance of drugs."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-17345655
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15959181 - 03/17/12 01:03 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I respect that it may be impractical and politically incorrect, but I advocate homeschooling.
I find that socialization is a voluntary act, never enforceable without resentment.
I made friends, spontaneously, mostly away from this prison.
And, I question the mindset of any person who gravitates toward positions of authority, in which they can look in other peoples' pants against their will - not once, not twice, but again and again and again.
I was put in these situations, when I was young. I rebelled in righteous indignation, knowing that I was at peace with any consequence.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15959311 - 03/17/12 01:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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One day parents will understand that the war on drugs imposes a serious threat to the well-being and personal growth of their children. Unfortunately that will take a while.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15959550 - 03/17/12 03:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Simplepowa said:
She said: "He's just very distraught by it all - very embarrassed. I feel my child has been victimised."
Fortunately, some of them already do.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#15959623 - 03/17/12 03:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Lol I ALWAYS got searched in school lol when they didn't find the drugs I wend back the next day and showed em where they hypothetically' were lol I loved that cat and mouse game I never lose(yet) but getting searched really offended my dad at the time
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Rexter] 1
#15959697 - 03/17/12 03:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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-Let's try the people who did the search for child pornography and molestation charges.
-"Think of the children!" Yeah... think of the children getting groped by authority figures in the name of the war on drugs. 
-When you're at a public school, all of your rights are forfeited, and you are not treated as a real person should be treated. There is no respect at all for pupils in today's classroom environment. I was homeschooled for a long period of time, and I was totally shocked at the treatment kids received in public schools when I started attending.
In 7th grade, I was threatened with detention, possible expulsion, and mandatory counseling sessions for mentioning to a group of friends (out of earshot of teachers) that I planned on dropping out of high school early with a GED and attending college. They hauled me into the principal's office and started with, "So, we've been hearing some concerning rumors about you planning to drop out of school. Are you being abused? Using drugs?"
It's all one big fucking joke.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15959822 - 03/17/12 04:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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"Think of the children": like the innocent children being warrantly strip searched for no reason?  I wonder how far the searches went, were they cavity searched?
This is such an immense violation of human rights. There is no way to justify the warrantless stripsearching of nine innocent children just because of the potential crimes of two. That's like having a swat team raid every house on a block just because one house was reported to have drugs. Guilt by vague potential association without hard physical evidence of wrongdoing.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: nooneman]
#15959911 - 03/17/12 05:11 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
nooneman said:
"Think of the children": like the innocent children being warrantly strip searched for no reason? I wonder how far the searches went, were they cavity searched?
This is such an immense violation of human rights. There is no way to justify the warrantless stripsearching of nine innocent children just because of the potential crimes of two. That's like having a swat team raid every house on a block just because one house was reported to have drugs. Guilt by vague potential association without hard physical evidence of wrongdoing.
Schoolchildren have no rights.  But you don't remember things like everyone being denied recess because the class clown wouldn't shut up?
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#15960166 - 03/17/12 06:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yea I hope they sue the fucking shiiiiit outta those pigs and that school. This is just 
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: mushiefeet]
#15960572 - 03/17/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Wow this is fucked up...
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: durian_2008]
#15960646 - 03/17/12 08:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
I respect that it may be impractical and politically incorrect, but I advocate homeschooling.
100% agree
Just because you're home schooled doesn't mean you can't socialize, join in clubs/sports, or learn to flirt. I think public school is good for elementary, but after that it doesn't make much sense imho. Especially high school.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15961476 - 03/17/12 11:47 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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did they even find any drugs?
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: maug]
#15961651 - 03/18/12 12:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i dont agree with homeschooling. i know a family of 12 people that were all home schooled and they didnt do the homework and they are all dumb, and sick in the head brainwashed daddy is a preacher christians.
they just dont understand anything about how the world works, being home schooled miles and miles outside of town in a big house in the middle of the corn fields.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Psychoslut] 1
#15962890 - 03/18/12 12:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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You know one example where homeschooling was a big failure. Isn't it a precipitous generalization to conclude based on this that homeschooling is a failure all together?
Edited by menino (03/18/12 12:39 PM)
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: menino]
#15962897 - 03/18/12 12:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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One fantastic video that shows why homeschooling is the best alternative.
http://youtu.be/okPnDZ1Txlo
Edited by menino (03/18/12 12:38 PM)
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Psychoslut]
#15963647 - 03/18/12 04:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Psychoslut said:
i dont agree with homeschooling. i know a family of 12 people that were all home schooled and they didnt do the homework and they are all dumb, and sick in the head brainwashed daddy is a preacher christians.
Christianity has been consistently illegal, throughout history, whenever messianic virtues weren't conferred upon the head of govt.
Leftist had "the One," but rightists have been no better for ongoing generations.
The overwhelming majority are legitimately undiscriminating, but this is not case 100% of the time.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: Simplepowa]
#15963918 - 03/18/12 06:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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This is happening in ENGLAND. They obviously do not have the same rights over there that we have here in the States.
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: menino]
#15964115 - 03/18/12 07:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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menino said:
You know one example where homeschooling was a big failure. Isn't it a precipitous generalization to conclude based on this that homeschooling is a failure all together?
Its entirely dependent on the household. If the parents have the time, resources, and most importantly, the required intelligence to legitimately teach their children then by all means, go for it. But many households lack one or more of the requirements.
As for my personal experience, I feel my parents probably could have provided an equal or better education than I received (went to pretty good private schools, not the slums that most public schools are nowadays). BUT homeschooling could never have given me the social skills I learned from interacting with hundreds of other kids my age every single day.
As with everything, there is no clear cut answer. Schools have benefits, homeschooling has benefits. Its up to each family to make the best decision based on their unique situation
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: focker919]
#15965867 - 03/19/12 03:16 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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"'SCUSE ME SIR, I JUST NEEDS TAH CHECK INSIDE YA ASSHOWLE.."
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Re: John Port pupils strip-searched over 'drugs in underwear' [Re: focker919]
#15969056 - 03/19/12 10:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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There will be people who say they are homeschooling, and offer no education. I had a friend who's mom did that, but she had drug and mental health issues too. I think that isn't the majority though.
My impression of public school is that it's impersonal, the material watered down and bastardized, and overall it teaches childishness and conformity. Rather than teaching personal skills like sense of self, reflection, and composure, school teaches assembly-line-styled team work. I hear private schools are better, but a hired stranger can not give a better education than you can if you apply yourself.
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