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 The way Crumbs Determines Potency 
#15948091 - 03/14/12 09:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I use a digital that goes down to 1/100's a of gram (0.01g). This is the most sophisticated piece of equipment.
I use 91% iso so smaller batches are better if you are using 95%+ you can do larger batches. The problem with batches above 5 grams is the remaining water is annoying.
Weigh out about 2g of coffee ground material.
I use about 50 ml to 100 ml of 91% isopropyl alcohol. (Ethanol is always better)
Combine dry material and iso in a small glass and mix for a few minutes.
I place cotton (from a q-tip) on the needle tip of a 16 guage, 60ml syringe. You know a clean spore syringe, a 10ml works just fine.
Drawn up the iso into the syringe through the q-tip. It will be very clear. If it clogs, simple change q-tip cotton balls and continue.
Dispense this into a metal spoon ladle. This will be the cleanest nicest whitest result.
Now you can compress the remaining material with a espresso shot packer (I dunno what its called) or whatever you have. The iso will come to the top and you can draw it up easy with another q-tip cotton ball on your syringe. It'll turn out a little dirty but still pretty good.
Let dry in front of fan, this will take about an hour or two.
Now if you have an electric stove (might be dangerous) you can just set the spoons on it and burst the heat once in a while to speed it up. Takes about 20 to 30 minutes. Also place a fan on them.
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Your result is a nice white crystal powder.
Scrape your spoon and take a final weight.
((Final weight) / (Dry weight)) * 100 = % active compounds.
Example
((0.52g / 2.03g)) * 100 = 25%
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The result is a sweet smelling honey/nectar like white crystal, about the size of a large pea.
Very cool. Lots of stuff you can do with it now including smoking.
It will oxidize and turn blue if left out for a few days.
I like to preserve it back in alcohol. Ethanol is better than iso and the higher the proof the better, but use what you can.
Oh yeah and once extracted it doesn't mess with your puke reflex at all!
Edited by DrCrumbs (03/14/12 11:09 PM)
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15948154 - 03/14/12 10:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Very interesting man!
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15948165 - 03/14/12 10:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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That's a fine basic extraction.
Your % is not going to be the % of actives, just the % of the mushroom that dissolved in alcohol.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: PeterPanda209]
#15948180 - 03/14/12 10:11 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Cool, lots of room for errors and stuff. So I dunno if its practical to compare user results against each other.
I mean yeah its not a gas Chromatograph or anything but it can really help for batch to batch and specie to specie comparisons.
But its a start.
It seems to be pretty pure white crystals as the result.
Edited by DrCrumbs (03/14/12 10:12 PM)
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15948363 - 03/14/12 10:47 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Wish I had 50 posts to rate you Doctor.
Bookmarking either way.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: psychonautic]
#15948448 - 03/14/12 11:03 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, when I get a chance I will add some pictures. I just have to clean the header info on the images, to remove any GPS info. I'm planning on using:
Exif Jpeg header manipulation tool
http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/
If anyone has any easier to use tools to clean header info out of images please let me know. Thanks.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: psychonautic]
#15948458 - 03/14/12 11:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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You may want to bookmark this as well:
http://www.fanaticus.com/mycoalki.htm
The extraction tek itself is at the bottom of the page, under the title "Alcohol Extraction Of The Magic Crystals by professor fanaticus"
Way more informative, THE tek for psilocyn/psilocybin extraction.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15948531 - 03/14/12 11:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
DrCrumbs said:
Thanks, when I get a chance I will add some pictures. I just have to clean the header info on the images, to remove any GPS info. I'm planning on using:
Exif Jpeg header manipulation tool
http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/
If anyone has any easier to use tools to clean header info out of images please let me know. Thanks.
GPS info?
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: psychonautic]
#15948567 - 03/14/12 11:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomery automatically deletes .exif data when you upload
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: psychonautic]
#15948572 - 03/14/12 11:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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oh cool. ive done extractions on other materials however never even thought about a mushroom extracting. thanks for sharing =)
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: Beefy1]
#15949463 - 03/15/12 03:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Beefy1 said:
That's a fine basic extraction.
Your % is not going to be the % of actives, just the % of the mushroom that dissolved in alcohol.
It's not exact but it's standardized, so you can compare flushes and varieties.
I would be tempted to do 3 pulls with the iso alc, just because alcohol is cheap and psilocyben is not. It could be soaked longer than a few minutes too. I've had reishi alcohol extracts sit around for months. And iso alc is not very flammable. I've tried using it in alcohol lamps, and it failed miserably.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: maug]
#15949525 - 03/15/12 04:25 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Woah thanks beefy1, I had no idea that shroomery was that protective that's really awesome. The GPS data is why I haven't been uploading pics well that and my camera is my phone.
Yeah there is no reason not to do multiple rinses especially if you intend on using the extract. I've found that the first extraction does contains most of the active compounds.
With bulk grows the way they are now, you have a lot of "life time" supplies.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: maug]
#15949850 - 03/15/12 08:15 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Do you mean by using more than 2g? or are you suggesting to pull 2 or 3 rinses of alcohol from the same material as with the original flush?
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: psychonautic]
#15950299 - 03/15/12 12:09 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Not with 2 grams. I'd toss that into the next batch of scrambled eggs. But if you have a quarter pound, it's worth your while.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: maug]
#15950411 - 03/15/12 12:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Fucking awesome dude,,I have always wondered if you can smoke the shit,,have you tried a vaporiser??
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: WestAussie]
#15950517 - 03/15/12 01:22 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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You can smoke mushrooms if you take MAOI prior. Source: McKenna "Rap Dancing Into the 3rd Millennium"
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: maug]
#15950573 - 03/15/12 01:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting stuff . Thanks for the info.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: fungusapien]
#15958976 - 03/17/12 11:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I smoke it the same way you would smoke opium. Vaporize it.
Only lasts about an hour and half tops, but its pretty neat.
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15959014 - 03/17/12 11:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Its not even a standard measure of potency since the percentage of actives varies from each individual fruit body it is however a cool way to process the actives in mushroom fruits,especially for those who really can't stomach the taste of fresh or dried fruits
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Re: The way Crumbs Determines Potency [Re: steelmonkey]
#15959286 - 03/17/12 01:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't found that to be true, it seems pretty consistent. I've only done it about a dozen times though. Could also be because I'm working with clones.
How much do you think you would have to do to get a good average, like a half zip?
Edited by DrCrumbs (03/17/12 01:42 PM)
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