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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: teamkiller]
#15945666 - 03/14/12 12:15 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Well, yeah, but I guess that's the essence of the matter: this is not a rational thing. If you feel the need to have kids, then you don't need a reason. If you don't feel that need or desire, then no single reason will be really valid
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: teamkiller]
#15945685 - 03/14/12 12:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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responses are like "nah kids are fun"
I never said that...
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: trendal]
#15946050 - 03/14/12 02:22 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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trendal said: responses are like "nah kids are fun"
I never said that...
i don't think anyone really said that. this person is imaginatively reading between lines and not actually understanding the sentences in which we typed.
even though they say they want to know different views. they explicitly type their own viewpoint constantly and don't get it. it won't change for them. they don't need to have kids. and i don't think i need to prove to them that they do. plus, i actually said that if you don't want one, don't have one.
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: teamkiller]
#15946086 - 03/14/12 02:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: I'm sorry i don't really see how what you two wrote has much to do with what i've been saying. If you want me to respond to it I can.
Yes there is a system of political and cultural control in place, but no one is telling me when to go to sleep or what to eat. You can call it helping if you want, but my question still stands: Why don't you have anyone telling you when to go to sleep and what to eat now? At what point did your authority exceed theirs, what changed?
Well see, that is where you are wrong again. The government DOES put out a set of guidelines that you should be eating daily, ever hear of the food pyramid? The next part, is that, we GROW UP. We LEARN things from our parents, we LEARN things from science and we APPLY the things we learned as we grow older, and it becomes second nature. You just know.
A human being over the age of 14 should be completely competent to feed themselves, go to sleep on their own, do chores, etc, without anyone HAVING to help them. You don't need someone to baby you. Growing up means taking responsibility for yourself. You don't need someone to tell you when to go to sleep. The only time you aren't responsible for yourself is when you cannot physically and/or mentally do so.
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: teamkiller]
#15946093 - 03/14/12 02:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: You'd have to be retarded to not realize you're too dumb to be trusted with control of another person.
only one reason in the world.
to give them a shot at experiencing the vast beauty that this existence has to offer.
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: k00laid]
#15946107 - 03/14/12 02:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
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teamkiller said: You'd have to be retarded to not realize you're too dumb to be trusted with control of another person.
only one reason in the world.
to give them a shot at experiencing the vast beauty that this existence has to offer.
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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15947093 - 03/14/12 06:44 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: Most people that i've been exposed to are so dumb they don't even know how to walk or sit without doing long term damage to themselves, till eventually they become hobbled little old people with joints like dried sticks.
People are so dumb they can't differentiate between something tasting good and it being good to eat.
People are so dumb they can't even breathe well! I'm sure a whole bunch of you on here have done breathing exercises and know what i'm talking about.
Not knowing how to breathe, walk, sit, or eat, and still thinking you're responsible enough to create another person and control their destiny, i'll quote myself
most dumb people dont realize how dumb they are. in fact many believe themselves to be quite smart and then they open their mouths about how they're surrounded by stupidity
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if there is a bias in my reasoning, please point it out to me. I really am trying to see a different point of view.
you shouldnt bother, you wont be able to see it
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: Horsewithnoname] 1
#15947144 - 03/14/12 07:01 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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To have a future shroomery member!
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: Horsewithnoname]
#15947151 - 03/14/12 07:03 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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They give you a reason to live and better yourself. If I didnt have kids I dont know where my life would be right now .. My kids and husband are the reasons I got clean and have stayed clean for the last 5+ years. I had my first daughter way to young and really screwed up and thankful when she was 4 I finally pulled it together. Had it not been for her I dont know where I would be right now.
Kids have an innocence and forgiving nature about them that touch peoples lives and I think that is important for most people to know that kind of love .
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: KristiMidocean]
#15948371 - 03/14/12 10:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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responses are like "nah kids are fun"
I never said that...
yeah so far your reply was the only one that seems like it relates to what i said. I was at work i couldn't take the time to respond to you directly yet.
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i don't think anyone really said that. this person is imaginatively reading between lines and not actually understanding the sentences in which we typed.
even though they say they want to know different views. they explicitly type their own viewpoint constantly and don't get it. it won't change for them. they don't need to have kids. and i don't think i need to prove to them that they do. plus, i actually said that if you don't want one, don't have one.
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Some people get a lot of joy from kids, especially once their adults. Now that my siblings and I are entirely grown and have long moved out of the house, its a heck of a lot of fun to get together over holidays etc.
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That is why I suggest that it is not retarded or immoral, it is mostly fun.
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As a child you aren't really conscious of your own development, so watching another being grow must be fascinating.
since i didn't want to take the time to write up every descriptor, i'm using fun as synonymous for fascinating.
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this person is imaginatively reading between lines and not actually understanding the sentences in which we typed.
i believe the term for this is "belligerent projection".
being accused of making up other people's words, while others have done this to me has put me in a sour mood. the thinking is clearly twisted, i depart.
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: Mafeki]
#15948400 - 03/14/12 10:55 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Mafeki said: To mature your relationship with a woman and to raise a child.
Non of these have to be retarded or immoral.
Jesus. THIS^
here. can this thread stop now?
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Re: Help me think of a reason to have kids that isn't retarded or immoral [Re: teamkiller]
#15949772 - 03/15/12 07:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm still waiting for that response...
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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.
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