|
 psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US 
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
 Unusual Green Color at Base? 
#15946651 - 03/14/12 04:55 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
SWIM has some Pint-sized PF TEK cakes in a terrarium, and instead of doing what they're supposed to, they do this:
The two cakes have been in the chamber for 4 full days. Speaking with someone else, he learned that they puffed up due to lack of air-exchange, and now I'm seeing green-mold. He tried rubbing a dry q-tip, and it actually comes off of the substrate material. Though, he's afraid of removing it for spreading more.
Best case-scenario?
Edited by psychonautic (03/14/12 04:58 PM)
|
 TranscendingLife
I Don't Need a Life to Live
Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 20,447
|
|
best case scenario, you don't get any more contams. But you have to get rid of that cake.
Ditch the cake, wipe down the FC w/ some warm soapy water.
the Q-tip test is complete BS. Once it goes green, it's done & best outside away from any future grows.
--------------------
Looking for Dictyophora Indusiata (Phallus Indusiatus) Cultures Please PM me for a trade
AMU: We Quickly Answer Questions Here
"One must accept the probability of failure to experience the elation of success." - TranscendingLife
“A man of genius makes no mistakes; his errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
   How I Do EVERYTHING
"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung
"Anything that can be done chemically can be done by other means."- William S. Burroughs
"You are as dead now as you will ever be" - Seth
|
psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
|
So, the second cake is okay though?
Edit:
What's the best way to dispose of this thing?
--------------------
.:PsillyPsycho:.
Edited by psychonautic (03/14/12 05:17 PM)
|
TranscendingLife
I Don't Need a Life to Live
Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 20,447
|
|
second one looks fine.
throw it in your garden.
--------------------
Looking for Dictyophora Indusiata (Phallus Indusiatus) Cultures Please PM me for a trade
AMU: We Quickly Answer Questions Here
"One must accept the probability of failure to experience the elation of success." - TranscendingLife
“A man of genius makes no mistakes; his errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
How I Do EVERYTHING
"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung
"Anything that can be done chemically can be done by other means."- William S. Burroughs
"You are as dead now as you will ever be" - Seth
|
fungusapien
Nomad
Registered: 02/09/09
Posts: 317
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 4 months, 23 days
|
|
Well, it seems that your contam has already sporulated, and you have other cakes in such close proximity, so it's quite possible it will show up on some of those other cakes. I'd take a ziplock or some kind of plastic bag and just grab it with that and close it up trying not to move it much, then take it outside somewhere, dump it and bury it.
And like TL said, you should clean out your FC.
--------------------
"It achieved symbiosis with human society early by associating itself with domesticated cattle." - T. McKenna
leave yourself behind
|
punkrocker292004
i am a liar
Registered: 12/17/09
Posts: 2,819
Loc:
Last seen: 13 days, 17 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: fungusapien]
#15946980 - 03/14/12 06:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
get it out now 
--------------------
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero-tyler durden
watch me
MHRB
got attitude?
|
billy
Registered: 07/13/11
Posts: 541
Last seen: 21 hours, 33 minutes
|
|
cake is toast. clean your fc walls and rinse the pearlite. keep a very close eye on the other cakes. are they sitting on a bed of verm in the jar lid? if so you might want to get rid of the extra. its uncolonized and stays moist. just what contams like that need.....
|
Rest NVS
Seeker of knowledge
Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Colorado
Last seen: 9 months, 9 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: billy]
#15947109 - 03/14/12 06:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Get rid of them (bury in garden) and clean your FC. Once you see the green, its not looking good, and that first cake is out of control! I am pretty new at this so my advice might not be worth much, but Id say that its better to be safe then sorry, or you have the chance of having that problem keep being a problem. Take care of it now!
|
Javadog
Continuing along
Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 7,292
Loc: USA
|
|
Yeah, you are learning. ...that cake should have been identified as
infected earlier, but there is little else for you to do but what has
been suggested.
Good luck,
JD
--------------------
Boyd Rice told my brother that life is a corny pack of freesakes
Myco-tek.org
|
psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Javadog]
#15947193 - 03/14/12 07:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Yup, this is SWIM's first attempt, he has 3 other pint jars that have stalled at like 98% colonization. Hopefully they don't stop growing with such little left.
Either way, SWIM is confident about the other cake. It's pinning already, and seems unphased by the whole thing.
Any suggestions on what SWIM could do to help the jars finish colonizing? It's been 8 weeks.... 
Does one suggest the cakes sit on aluminum foil vs. moist verm?
EDIT:
Did a total removal of the perlite, soapy anti-bacterial scrub inside, fresh-moist perlite in as well.
--------------------
.:PsillyPsycho:.
Edited by psychonautic (03/14/12 07:25 PM)
|
Rest NVS
Seeker of knowledge
Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Colorado
Last seen: 9 months, 9 hours
|
|
I had the same problem with some of my jars and I just turned the heat up on the incubation chamber to 88 and boom!!! they started growing again. Thats my best suggestion! It would be a shame to toss jars. Mycelia grows faster at a higher temp! Hope it helps
|
psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Rest NVS]
#15947275 - 03/14/12 07:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Rest NVS said:
I had the same problem with some of my jars and I just turned the heat up on the incubation chamber to 88 and boom!!! they started growing again. Thats my best suggestion! It would be a shame to toss jars. Mycelia grows faster at a higher temp! Hope it helps:D
It does actually. SWIM also heard that if you flipped them upside down and smacked the cake off the bottom of the jar it would force air through the holes and make it breathe. So, SWIM left them upside-down for a day, then flipped them back over. It kicked two into gear, but the third one is still like a good solid week of colonization. It's lame because it's been so long thus far.
This is the new situation for the remaining cake:
--------------------
.:PsillyPsycho:.
|
Rest NVS
Seeker of knowledge
Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Colorado
Last seen: 9 months, 9 hours
|
|
Yep, I have done the same thing and it has helped! The heat seemed to work the best for me. I try to keep them at around 81-82, but sometimes you just need to resort to drastic measures.  LOL
|
Rest NVS
Seeker of knowledge
Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Colorado
Last seen: 9 months, 9 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Rest NVS]
#15947324 - 03/14/12 07:47 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Get some more jars going!!!!! It sucks waiting, but you might as well start some more while these are stalled! You can never have to much LOL Plus once the jars you have now are done fruiting you'll have some more to throw in!
|
psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Rest NVS]
#15947338 - 03/14/12 07:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Well, I'll say that SWIM has had enormous amounts of fun thus far. The research, the learning.. it's all super effective. Pluss, the pay-off at the end makes everything completely worth it. Even if 100% of it doesn't go right, SWIM will be okay with everything either way. It's been fun thus far, and he's sure it will continue.
SWIM has 1cc left in a syringe, and needs to order more. Though his brother is the one who has to receive them. It's kind of drastic because SWIM can't have spores delivered to his location. Though it's not too difficult.
--------------------
.:PsillyPsycho:.
|
Rest NVS
Seeker of knowledge
Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 88
Loc: Colorado
Last seen: 9 months, 9 hours
|
|
I am having a great time with this!!!!! I am a vet when it comes to growing green, but this has become my new little obsession! My girl hasn't been to happy with me since I seem to have more interest in shrooms, but what can ya do???? LOL Best of luck to you man! keep us informed on the progress!
|
Swwert
Truck-Boat-Truck
Registered: 04/09/11
Posts: 1,166
Last seen: 16 days, 2 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Rest NVS]
#15947702 - 03/14/12 08:58 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
Whole Brown Rice Cakes TEK
  
"The mushrooms are just loving you back."
"Maria Sabina is a symbol of wisdom and love."
|
pqueue
Vowel Enthusiast
Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 95
|
|
Quote:
psychonautic said:
Yup, this is SWIM's first attempt, he has 3 other pint jars that have stalled at like 98% colonization. Hopefully they don't stop growing with such little left.
Are you sure it isn't the top verm layer falling down between the cake and the jar? If there has been no change for over a week I'd go ahead and birth 'em. Either they're contaminated or they're ready if they've been sitting a while with no progress.
|
pqueue
Vowel Enthusiast
Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 95
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: Rest NVS]
#15947961 - 03/14/12 09:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Rest NVS said:
I had the same problem with some of my jars and I just turned the heat up on the incubation chamber to 88 and boom!!! they started growing again. Thats my best suggestion! It would be a shame to toss jars. Mycelia grows faster at a higher temp! Hope it helps:D
Please don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about. 88 is way too hot to incubate your jars. Unless you keep your house below 68 or so you don't need an incubator in the first place. Cubes will grow fine at even lower temps, just more slowly.
|
psychonautic
Beautiful Stranger
Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 54
Loc: US
Last seen: 29 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Unusual Green Color at Base? [Re: pqueue]
#15947962 - 03/14/12 09:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
|
|
How does the top dry verm falling down between the jar and the cake affect the colonization?
SWIM can get some pictures for you. Just give him a few.
--------------------
.:PsillyPsycho:.
|
|
Images only 
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Shop for: 
Edit 
Reply 
