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#15906313 - 03/05/12 11:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Hello all,
I spawned a quart of F. velutipes (Enoki/Enokitake) on Feb 10th
and this evening while checking some blocks I saw this:
This makes for about 3 weeks of colonization.
Does this fit what others have seen?
I was expecting a longer consolidation period.
Often a contam can cause early fruiting, but this block does not look
at all contaminated.
I let my Shitakes and Namekos (and Gyms) go for months. I find that
Oysters start fruiting right after colonization and Herricium even earlier.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for the time.
JD
P.S. I am thinking of stripping the bag down to the level of the sub
for this block. I do not need to long stems so much. Good idea?
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15906670 - 03/06/12 12:49 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Congrats!  
Wish I had some constructive input; but my one attempt never made it past grain  Just too many other species higher on the priority list 
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Thanks HS.
Yes, my efforts have occasionally suffered from not focusing as well.
I hope that I don't screw this one up. It is my first time with Enoki.
Take care,
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15907484 - 03/06/12 05:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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JD if you don't want long stem then you should unfold the bag to reduce the co2 and give it a little more light for cap development. my golden enoki made a lager cap when i gave it more fresh air and light. hope that help. please keep us updated on your progress.
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: john-hai]
#15907976 - 03/06/12 10:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, this is what I am thinking too. Thanks for the time!
I will let you know how it goes.
JD
P.S. Are Enoki a "fast fruiter" typically?
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15908356 - 03/06/12 12:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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my golden enoki was not fast. it colonize for 5 weeks before pinning. you may have a fast fruiter. once you open the bag you may find that they may pin all over the block.
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: john-hai]
#15908623 - 03/06/12 01:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks John.
This is another issue that I have struggled with...to use the traditional
slits, leave an open collar, cut the bag down to the level of the sub,
or strip the bag completely.
I have my first block in a very wet GH and think that I can strip the bag off.
Those I put into my less foggy outdoor GH I will likely just use slits.
Take care,
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15908667 - 03/06/12 01:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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sound like you got a good plan there. see which one is better. good thing you have 2 green house. i would like to know which one of the block fruit better for you.
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: john-hai]
#15909319 - 03/06/12 04:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I went ahead and opened the bag and wanted to share a better shop.
(the one without the flash looked better but failed to focus completely)
(sound of fingers crossing)
Take care,
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15909602 - 03/06/12 05:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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looking good
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: john-hai]
#15909694 - 03/06/12 06:00 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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So i have some enoki going on agar now, just did my T1 from spores. They are wild i found in the fall and took prints of. They were quite tasty. Im usr to the commercial, long white stringy ones. I was really surprised when i ID the wild version to learn they were even the same thing. So when i do go to grow these out, will they look like there wild version, cultivated version, or somewhere between. I realize that the reason the cultivated ones look the way they do is through selective cultivation. Just wondering how environment plays into it?
Here is a pic of them in the wild.
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Wow Chef, those are indeed completely different looking.
I think that my grow may shed some light on this.
Mine have clearly started out looking like the commercial type, but
I just opened them to FAE and so we will see.
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#15910181 - 03/06/12 07:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Ill be watching 
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When I grew these I kept the CO2 levels high as I wanted more stem and less cap...this way they were like mushroom noodles...very yummy in the wok.
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The first cluster is growing nicely:
I noticed pins under the plastic on another block.
I think that this will be a productive block:
I am also getting mad King Oyster fruits.
These are just the first from a series of sawdust and straw blocks
that are all beginning to fruit:
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15941844 - 03/13/12 02:03 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Those enoki's are beauties!
Nice work JD.
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looking good man! what temp range are you keeping them at?
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Well, Southern California.
It has been pretty cool though, maybe 40-50 lows, but not much lower very often.
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Re: First Enoki Pins [Re: Javadog]
#15942082 - 03/13/12 03:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good JD 
For my first grow, I did 1 cake standard sitting in the SGFC, the others were wrapped in plastic for higher CO2.
IMO I didn't have enough CO2 in either one, but you can see in this picture the difference in the fruits.
The Enokis in the bottom left corner & center top are from the cake w/out plastic.
The next grow I did, I just left them in bags w/ about a 2" in diameter hole at the top.
 
Now, I use water bottles that I cut in half & fill up, then tape the top & bottom back together.
I'll be writing up a tek soon for them.
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Great stuff TL.
I am just starting with this species and am just working out what
it likes to eat and how well it grows in So Cal. I do not spend money
on controlling my environment temp wise.
As usual, I am starting off trying plain straw and plain sawdust.
Both appear to be strong. This species seems to start fruiting pretty
much right after reaching 100% colonization.
I want to try some on a supplemented block next.
Take care,
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