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#15930865 - 03/10/12 10:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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growing on oak. not Calvatia sp. notice the gills on the cross-sections.

my best guess at this point is Armillaria sp.
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Were there black rhizomorphs present?
Thats a mighty young specimen, blood. I feel like I'm looking at an aborted fetus...and wondering if it's tasty???
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Gravija said: Were there black rhizomorphs present?
Thats a mighty young specimen, blood. I feel like I'm looking at an aborted fetus...and wondering if it's tasty???

no rhiz. it was attached to the base of the oak almost directly flat. it was bizarre, i had to take it. not to mention i won't get back to that spot for another couple weeks. i'll be camping in this location for about 2 weeks over the summer. "pseudo-old-growth" forest. i love it there. too bad today was a bit on the dry side, i still had fun.


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Gravija
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Hmmm... I just looked at those flowers and wondered if they are tasty too. I must be hungry.
Dry as a bone up here too. Man, you have got some sweet stomping grounds. You've posted like twenty genera in the last three weeks!
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Either that is a gilled, stemless fungus or it's got some growing to do. Entoloma abortivum is interesting and probably not what you have, but maybe? At any rate this info is still super cool. One reading said it had no gills and the other paper says it has poorly formed gills. link 1 link 2 link 3
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That is an awesome read RiverDweller!
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RiverDweller1 said: Either that is a gilled, stemless fungus or it's got some growing to do. Entoloma abortivum is interesting and probably not what you have, but maybe? At any rate this info is still super cool. One reading said it had no gills and the other paper says it has poorly formed gills. link 1 link 2 link 3
this makes a lot of sense. i thought it was Armillaria sp.. i think you got it.  i'll throw it under the scope tonight.
thank again.
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None of the examples on MO have gills. So pretty sure it's not what I linked to.
Good read anyway, lol
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hmm... i still think it makes sense. good read, agreed. 

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I am probably way off, but perhaps a Heboloma sp of some sort?
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I'd guess Agaricus, I've found them at the base of Oaks.
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Re: id...? [Re: falcon]
#15932570 - 03/11/12 11:48 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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would you believe me if i said the spores were black??
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entoloma abortivum I've found have decurrent well-formed gills, they also have minutely velvety caps, and OP's has some little squamules


 If it had blackish spores psathyrella would come to mind, but what do I know
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what about plain old Agaricus something?
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more microscopy will be done and posted when i get back from hunting.
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spores 400x germ pore present
i'll post more later on tonight...

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Agaricus I guess, you've ruled out Entoloma and Armillaria for sure though...
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How did you get spores? It looks rather immature.
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bloodworm said: ....it was attached to the base of the oak almost directly flat. bloodworm
That attachment just seems so weird to me. Are you sure the spores are black? Did this drop spores or did you find them in the gills?
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they were found on the gills. it is indeed strange. at first i thought i had spores on my razor blade. i cut another sample with a different razor blade. same result. i'll wipe everything down here in a bit and cut yet another sample... the only thing i printed recently with black spores are a pan ant and a pan cinct... these spores are much larger.  leading me to believe they are indeed legit.
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