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I can't have sex with people I am not attached to for one simple reason:

By engaging in the act of procreation with someone, I am letting them know they are in some way worthy of impregnating me. Of course not literally impregnate, but that is the most basic meaning behind sex. I am allowing them to think they are worthy of mixing their DNA with my own. It's an ego boost of sorts. Most people, in my eyes, are not worthy of such an ego boost. They don't deserve to think they are worthy males because they're not. So why should I lower my standards just so I can feel the sensations of sex when I wouldn't even want the person I am fucking. Being attractive isn't what I am attracted to, anyway. I need someone to be intellectual, motivated, and interesting. If someone isn't, I literally can't get wet. I can't allow myself to let such a person penetrate me.

And so, I tend to only have intimate relationships with someone who has enough likeable traits that I *could* date them or want to, but won't for whatever reasons. Main reasons being that I don't need a relationship atm and it's a rare for to find attractive men who can handle a FWB. Because of this, the amount of people I've had sex with is pretty fucking low. Especially when compared to other women my age.

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I can't have sex with people I am not attached to for one simple reason:

By engaging in the act of procreation with someone, I am letting them know they are in some way worthy of impregnating me. Of course not literally impregnate, but that is the most basic meaning behind sex. I am allowing them to think they are worthy of mixing their DNA with my own. It's an ego boost of sorts. Most people, in my eyes, are not worthy of such an ego boost. They don't deserve to think they are worthy males because they're not. So why should I lower my standards just so I can feel the sensations of sex when I wouldn't even want the person I am fucking. Being attractive isn't what I am attracted to, anyway. I need someone to be intellectual, motivated, and interesting. If someone isn't, I literally can't get wet. I can't allow myself to let such a person penetrate me.

And so, I tend to only have intimate relationships with someone who has enough likeable traits that I *could* date them or want to, but won't for whatever reasons. Main reasons being that I don't need a relationship atm and it's a rare for to find attractive men who can handle a FWB. Because of this, the amount of people I've had sex with is pretty fucking low. Especially when compared to other women my age.

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I can't have sex with people I am not attached to for one simple reason:

By engaging in the act of procreation with someone, I am letting them know they are in some way worthy of impregnating me. Of course not literally impregnate, but that is the most basic meaning behind sex. I am allowing them to think they are worthy of mixing their DNA with my own. It's an ego boost of sorts. Most people, in my eyes, are not worthy of such an ego boost. They don't deserve to think they are worthy males because they're not. So why should I lower my standards just so I can feel the sensations of sex when I wouldn't even want the person I am fucking. Being attractive isn't what I am attracted to, anyway. I need someone to be intellectual, motivated, and interesting. If someone isn't, I literally can't get wet. I can't allow myself to let such a person penetrate me.

And so, I tend to only have intimate relationships with someone who has enough likeable traits that I *could* date them or want to, but won't for whatever reasons. Main reasons being that I don't need a relationship atm and it's a rare for to find attractive men who can handle a FWB. Because of this, the amount of people I've had sex with is pretty fucking low. Especially when compared to other women my age.

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You and Xul should get together and spend hours over analyzing stuff.

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So, don't have sex with people who irritate you?
No where does it say you have to have NSA with jerks.
If you refrain from these encounters how do you know they're not worthwhile?
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1) So, don't have sex with people who irritate you?
No where does it say you have to have NSA with jerks.
2) If you refrain from these encounters how do you know they're not worthwhile?
3) Also, sex doesn't make you a hedonistic beast.
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So, don't have sex with people who irritate you?
No where does it say you have to have NSA with jerks.
If you refrain from these encounters how do you know they're not worthwhile?
Also, sex doesn't make you a hedonistic beast.
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Speaking for my situation.  People who do not irritate me, usually dont show any sign of interest.  And when they do, I fear becoming emotionally attached, that is what my thread is about.  If the person isnt irritating, then why is it you dont want more from them?  that you prefer no strings...what is the difference?

I wonder if it is hereditary.

Perhaps it is a security thing.  Perhaps people who can do nsa like this have a stronger sense of self worth, and therefore it doesnt matter to them who they go with because it doesnt threaten their self esteem.

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Thats kind of obvious...

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Thats kind of obvious...

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Sometimes it IS just a pipe though.

And once in awhile, bumping uglies just cause you can is ok too.

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greysRDbestS: I never said it wasn't ok, I just said I am too much of an elitist snob to let most males have sex with me. Even ones I am friends with, who are moderately attractive and I feel a level of comfort with rarely are able to remain attractive enough for me to become aroused in the first place. I have to be SMASHED for anything to occur. So I stopped seeking it. If you want to bang girls, I'll be your wing man but I am not looking for the same pleasures. I'll nerd out by myself and help hook it up (for my friends) with the few sane women I encounter.

I'm not sure where you get your little theories of my repressed sexual fantasies but I assure you my love for oral is not really a repressed thing....
The only encounters I expect to have depth and oneness are sexual ones. I've been in a long term relationship and I preferred having a partner to explore things sexually and in daily life. It's my preference. Its not the purpose of my existence, though. I don't desire a family or marriage. I just want to focus on what I love: botany, microorganisms, fungi and the mechanics of life. Personal relationships are far from being important to me. I seek to have a deep, personal understanding of around me..not just humans. Humans are the problem in most cases.

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The only encounters I expect to have depth and oneness are sexual ones. I've been in a long term relationship and I preferred having a partner to explore things sexually and in daily life. It's my preference. Its not the purpose of my existence, though. I don't desire a family or marriage. I just want to focus on what I love: botany, microorganisms, fungi and the mechanics of life. Personal relationships are far from being important to me. I seek to have a deep, personal understanding of around me..not just humans. Humans are the problem in most cases.

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Most of the problems in this world are caused by people not thinking things through enough and acting on impulses that yield a short term gain but do nothing for the bigger picture. Humans often look at things through such a narrow lens. Me me me, pleasure, pleasure, materials, profit, social status, instant gratification, bullshit. Fuck that. The purpose of life is efficiency and being able to adapt.
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Most of the problems in this world are caused by people not thinking things through enough and acting on impulses that yield a short term gain but do nothing for the bigger picture. Humans often look at things through such a narrow lens. Me me me, pleasure, pleasure, materials, profit, social status, instant gratification, bullshit. Fuck that. The purpose of life is efficiency and being able to adapt.
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What field of science did you study again?  Credentialed by Wikipedia I presume?

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I have not had any formal college education. I've been financially unable to and never graduated high school but did get a GED. My parents don't really help me with things. I've moved around a lot in my life and its made it difficult to begin classes. I plan on doing so this coming Spring. I read books, not Wikipedia. Sources I trust also include American Society of Plant Biologists, Royal Horticultural Society, Science magazine, as well as various university websites since many publish news bits on what they're doing. Sometimes I go through sciencedaily.com and physorg.com to find brief information on studies being carried out and then look at who is conducting it. All my books at home are text books and non-fiction books with recommendations from people I trust.

Currently, my lifestyle as it stands is part of the problem. And it certainly difficult to tackle. I am in the process of moving and will be learning about more sustainable, smaller level community agriculture and will hopefully get to become more involved with fungi growers.

Once I begin school, I have a plan for classes I want to take and the universities I'd like to study at in the future. I don't want to be a part of the problem anymore which is why I spend time a lone trying to learn as much as I can and teach myself about the fields involved in providing solutions. I have no tests to take, no assigned papers I have to work my ass of on, no lectures to listen to (except for the ones on youtube). It's just me reading and the little essays I type up for myself to summarize what I've read. Or section reviews in textbooks I've acquired. I certainly have a lot to learn and it is difficult when I know nobody who likes what I do. No one to tell me when I'm wrong or call me out on miswordings that could make one misinterpret information. I do the best I can with what I have.

I never claimed to be an intellectual, I just am extremely attracted to very intelligent people. I would never be offended by someone punching holes in what I say! I actually would love that. How else would I learn? Having no proper education since I was 15 and getting most of my information from books and the few credible sources I find online, I know I am no where near as bright as I could be. But the whole reason I even want to wake up in the morning is to learn something new and find ways to apply it to everyday life. My mind is filled with why's and I put effort into finding them out. If I only knew someone who would challenge me in such a way! I'd love that so much.


And finally back to the topic at hand:
I understand it is human nature to want family and children but I would really like to avoid that. It is possible you know. If I am financially stable and find a partner, I wouldn't mind adopting but I have no desire to go through pregnancy. I've been with many guys but have slept with only a couple. I have had a wide range of sexual experiences and have a very good understanding of what I like. I love experimenting and tend to be pretty open minded about sex. The only thing I cannot do is have sex with someone who isn't attractive to me. It's not looks that does it, it's the attachment to someone who I admire and love. Then I truly enjoy it and can give it everything I have.

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There is nothing wrong with you wanting someone intelligent; in fact many “intellectual” guys tend to enjoy women who are either not as smart, or smart in other ways.  The last thing I would want in a partner is someone that could debate me about transcendental calculus equations, or tell me there is a more efficient way for me to be performing an experiment that I’m working on.  I much rather go home to my hippy girlfriend and let all of my academic related grief fly right over her head.  Which is why I am dating a message therapist/yoga instructor.  She keeps me “Hip”.

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Honestly TTT, I think you present yourself in a manner that reflects where you want to be in your life, not necessarily where you are...  As a formal high school drop out that went on to get a degree in Physics, I respect you for that.  Your still so young, and have nothing but time in front of you.

There is nothing wrong with you wanting someone intelligent; in fact many “intellectual” guys tend to enjoy women who are either not as smart, or smart in other ways.  The last thing I would want in a partner is someone that could debate me about transcendental calculus equations, or tell me there is a more efficient way for me to be performing an experiment that I’m working on.  I much rather go home to my hippy girlfriend and let all of my academic related grief fly right over her head.  Which is why I am dating a message therapist/yoga instructor.  She keeps me “Hip”.

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It wasn't cruel at all! I enjoyed it.

I know I am not where I want to be, that is why I am not dating. I don't believe the kind of person I'd even want to be with would want me right now. Shit, I wouldn't want me! I have a long ways to go but I'll get there. I just want friends who will help me attain my dreams by them being passionate about theirs and helping me with the shit I fail at.

I would definitely prefer a partner who was much brighter than me but I also have big dreams for myself and a plan I must follow. I want a research partner and someone who is as in love with everything around them as I am. Not a super driven, intelligent guy who comes home and doesn't show me any of it just because they want a break. Fuck that shit. I could never ever be content being some lowly yoga instructor or work in retail or some dreadful bullshit, either. No offense to your girl!

I present myself how I am. I do know a lot for someone in my position, especially when compared to people who are in school now that I am friends with. However, I know what I don't know and try to avoid fronting like I am an all knowing expert... but that doesn't mean I haven't done my research. The big picture gets more complex but clearer every time a new piece gets added to the complex puzzle that is understanding the process of life. I love learning, it truly is the only reason why I want to live. I want to understand everything.


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The average Yogie is probably more enlightened and easier on this earth than you will ever be.  It sounds like you have done absolutely NOTHING with your life.  You just spend Waaaaaay too much time on the internet acting like your better than other people.  Until of course, someone points out your hypocrisy, then you basically say "well im not better than you right now but im going to be in the future"...  Your one of those people that always talks about bettering themselves but fall short when it requires any effort, so you just sit there and do nothing (or in your case, post on the internet).  You think you are an intellectual but you couldn’t even finish Highschool???!!!  And you’re making fun of yoga instructors who are doing something more than being a lazy ass 20yr old, or flipping burgers, or whatever it is that you do. 


You’re too much!  And your right, you are part of the PROBLEM quit judging others!  The only reason you are accepted here is because this place is full of desperate men.  If you were a dude, other users would constantly point out your hypocrisy and idiocy.  In fact, your little fan base is probably the only reason you come here.  You're obviously insecure and get validation by pretending your someone THAT YOU'RE NOT, and enjoy the attention you get on here!


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There is nothing wrong with you wanting someone intelligent; in fact many “intellectual” guys tend to enjoy women who are either not as smart, or smart in other ways.  The last thing I would want in a partner is someone that could debate me about transcendental calculus equations, or tell me there is a more efficient way for me to be performing an experiment that I’m working on.  I much rather go home to my hippy girlfriend and let all of my academic related grief fly right over her head.  Which is why I am dating a message therapist/yoga instructor.  She keeps me “Hip”.

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It wasn't cruel at all! I enjoyed it.

I know I am not where I want to be, that is why I am not dating. I don't believe the kind of person I'd even want to be with would want me right now. Shit, I wouldn't want me! I have a long ways to go but I'll get there. I just want friends who will help me attain my dreams by them being passionate about theirs and helping me with the shit I fail at.

I would definitely prefer a partner who was much brighter than me but I also have big dreams for myself and a plan I must follow. I want a research partner and someone who is as in love with everything around them as I am. Not a super driven, intelligent guy who comes home and doesn't show me any of it just because they want a break. Fuck that shit. I could never ever be content being some lowly yoga instructor or work in retail or some dreadful bullshit, either. No offense to your girl!

I present myself how I am. I do know a lot for someone in my position, especially when compared to people who are in school now that I am friends with. However, I know what I don't know and try to avoid fronting like I am an all knowing expert... but that doesn't mean I haven't done my research. The big picture gets more complex but clearer every time a new piece gets added to the complex puzzle that is understanding the process of life. I love learning, it truly is the only reason why I want to live. I want to understand everything.


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You’re too much!  And your right, you are part of the PROBLEM quit judging others!  The only reason you are accepted here is because this place is full of desperate men.  If you were a dude, other users would constantly point out your hypocrisy and idiocy.  In fact, your little fan base is probably the only reason you come here.  You're obviously insecure and get validation by pretending your someone THAT YOU'RE NOT, and enjoy the attention you get on here!


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It's all good. I am naive, I am only 20. These are just my opinions as they stand with the limited experience and information I've gathered during this time in my life. I would never claim I know everything.

I am quite certain I am capable of doing just about anything I set my mind to. Some anon taking jabs at me on teh interwebs can't come close to shaking that. indeed

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Im a junkiewhore monster tard to most on here but am actually pretty chill irl.

Edit; also fuck what these dudes think and thier stupid labels.

Perception IS Reality IMO. So whatever you believe, no matter how fuked ppl think it sounds, it will become so for you. Belief, without a doubt, is the strongest tool we humans have. it has beaten cancer and paralysis so its definitely  capable of getting people to conform to your reality.

Tldr; Read up on Frame control and Creating your own reality...

IRL thangs are completly different. Body language and so much more play huge roles in getting people to accept your way of thinking. IF you  believe something without a doubt and this belief improves your quality of life its radiates off of you. When i am at my peak people gravitate to me and things just fall into place. If i got on here to explain it, which i have, id just get called a narcissistic egomaniac.
That has even happend IRL but the difference is IRL i ended up sexing the person who thought i was full of myself and couldnt, as i bragged, get whatever and whoever i want.

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qman: The people that are high earners respect all types of work, why?

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No, sorry, no, they don't.  Damn manager mentality.  People who sell their soul as shady manipulators get paid, and the people who do "work" get fucked over by shady manipulators who want to take credit for this work.

I think this thread proves that we are too prone to emotions and getting stuck in our ways to ever have NSA anything.

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qman: The people that are high earners respect all types of work, why?

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No, sorry, no, they don't.  Damn manager mentality.  People who sell their soul as shady manipulators get paid, and the people who do "work" get fucked over by shady manipulators who want to take credit for this work.

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Sounds like you need to meet some inspiring managers. They are out there.

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Well lucky for me these are just NSA jobs and I can walk out on them without giving a shit.  I just need to start being as picky about the people I work with as I am with the people I sleep with.