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kewl but not that relevant these days. there are more detailed write ups online now but the biggest problem is precursors.
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^enter the genius of this method...
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battery acid is sulfuric acid...
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I don't think #2 was talking about those kinds of precursors...
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kewl but not that relevant these days. there are more detailed write ups online
anybody with the chemistry skills and means necessary to ACUTALLY make LSD would be able to easily synthesize it from the most rudimentary instructions..
it' not like the molecular structure is a mystery or that synthesis reactions are a closely guarded secret 
go buy a general chemistry & organic chemistry college textbook, read through them, voila. easy as shit to make most illicits
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u cant salt out HCL
MALEIC works fine tho
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what other kinds of precursors are there?
ET or lysergic acid perhaps? Unless you have some palladium flakes and are going with the catalytic cyclization...which would be significantly more chemistry and I'm not sure about yield.
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You're right that ergot is extremely common, but an ergot mutant that produces the alkaloid in the usable amounts you need are not.
HBWR and Sleepy grass produce lysergic acid amide, which is not the same thing as lysergic acid.
You can probably induce mutation on a claviceps culture over time, but it will take a good deal of work and time. Either way, it still goes that the biggest problem is obtaining the precursors.
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Wouldn't exactly what you want be lysergic acid since you're just converting the amide into lyergic acid anyway? Seems like extra work. Whats the yield on each of those reactions? That's pretty important. That second reaction also seems like a royal pain in the ass to just make iso-LSD...you're talking about a multi-step synthesis not even counting the extraction, purification (the worst part, btw) or recrystallization.
There's a certain peptide coupler that will produce awesome yields in a much easier synth. I guess if you really wanted to make LSD you could go this way, but it just doesn't seem worth it.
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ether is made from Chloroform..
I can't figure out how this would happen 
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Washed off? That's converting. You're making lysergic acid out of lysergic acid amide in that first reaction. Hydrolysis may technically be washing, but it's still a chemical reaction that must be worked up and purified. And to get 50g of LSAA from HBWR you would need 37,000 grams of HBWR seeds (ergine content of HBWR ~.136% so you need .74g of HBWR per mg of ergine). 37 kilos of seeds might be a bit pricey, but that would also produce a lot of acid. You would need to perform a whole lot of small reactions or obtain some pricey large glassware.
I'm not putting your ideas down, just busting your balls and opening your mind up to some other methods. When someone says the hardest thing is obtaining precursors and you name all the precursors but the hardest 2 to acquire then it makes me wonder. Think smaller scale. 1 kilo of HBWR can probably give you a little more than a gram of LSD when it's all said and done, but I still wouldn't go by that second route you put up there...extracting LSAA from HBWR and hydrolyzing is all fine and dandy but for the second part of the rxn using a peptide coupling agent is superior imo.
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ether is made from Chloroform..
I can't figure out how this would happen
wtf are you talking about, an ether is a type of compound not a specific molecule.
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