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 Tricks to beating the system? 
#15883892 - 03/01/12 01:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Man I know this thread might get some weird reactions but I wanted to know if anybody has any tricks to beating the system in real life? With which I mean the system set up in society.
I know there is of course s3lling droogz, but I'm really thinking otherwise.
Personally I'll say I feel like through what experience I've had it's much easier to work within system fortunately or unfortunately. I'm actually thinking of becoming a radiologist technician just for the possibility of a stable career that doesn't take too long to build up, and if not that maybe play in bands if my health would allow it in the future - my bodies been weird these days.
But to the point of the thread, I wonder if anyone has thought of this question before and if anyone's come across any answers to it.
It seems like s3lling droogz would probably be the number once choice for many though, but personally it's just not worth it to me, I'd rather be out of jail and going to college than in jail and being screwed by the stupid laws we have in society. 
Edited by Anonymous (03/01/12 02:01 AM)
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15883899 - 03/01/12 02:01 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen The System wrestle... there's no way I could beat that guy. 
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15883908 - 03/01/12 02:05 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm just going to buy my own land near a small town when I get the chance and try and live off my own food as much as possible. At least that's what I want to happen 
It doesn't seem too hard to do either
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15884274 - 03/01/12 04:30 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Wait til some essential sector crashes and burns. Invest a ton of money in that sector while everyone else is running. Profit.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #1]  1
#15884455 - 03/01/12 06:26 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Hard work.
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #5]
#15884484 - 03/01/12 06:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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So that's how you want to beat the system, by playing in bands ? Good luck, many have tried that before! 
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #6]
#15884527 - 03/01/12 07:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Become a politician
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #7]
#15884531 - 03/01/12 07:09 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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stock market
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #8] 1
#15884857 - 03/01/12 10:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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You could always wait longer than the recommended period of time to change the oil in your car
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#15884881 - 03/01/12 10:19 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #2 said:
You could always wait longer than the recommended period of time to change the oil in your car
That's going way over the line if you ask me.
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Anonymous #9
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #6]
#15885188 - 03/01/12 12:09 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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2nd hand resale. Of course like any business you have to work to make it succeed but in general:
You are your own boss
You work your own hours
There is no real set profit margin or price
You can go to private owners, yard sales, auctions, dumpster diving, thrift stores, and/or flea markets to get stuff; it's your choice.
You can buy something for $1 and sell it for $400 or something for $35 and sell it for $50. Just depends on your knowledge vs. other people's knowledge, situations, and luck.
You can open a store, sell at a consignment store, set up at markets, sell online, or sell at auctions, or even just sell directly to a handful of serious collectors
It's supposed to be and really can be fun but I admit it can be a fucking nuisance sometimes. I know competition exists and expect it but do some people really have to make it their sole life destiny to be the first in line of every estate sale? Really? Waking up at 4AM and standing out in the bone chilling winds just to have first glance? Fuck that, I know it's business but if I started treating this more like a grueling battle than a game I would just go be an accountant.
On a good note I barely spent anything (just $60) in the last 7-10 days and am making fucking BANK. Doesn't happen all the time but I got really lucky and it's definitely the boost I've needed since I started with only $20 in Feb thanks to some nasty bills.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #9]
#15885563 - 03/01/12 01:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #9 said:
2nd hand resale. Of course like any business you have to work to make it succeed but in general:
You are your own boss
You work your own hours
There is no real set profit margin or price
You can go to private owners, yard sales, auctions, dumpster diving, thrift stores, and/or flea markets to get stuff; it's your choice.
You can buy something for $1 and sell it for $400 or something for $35 and sell it for $50. Just depends on your knowledge vs. other people's knowledge, situations, and luck.
You can open a store, sell at a consignment store, set up at markets, sell online, or sell at auctions, or even just sell directly to a handful of serious collectors
It's supposed to be and really can be fun but I admit it can be a fucking nuisance sometimes. I know competition exists and expect it but do some people really have to make it their sole life destiny to be the first in line of every estate sale? Really? Waking up at 4AM and standing out in the bone chilling winds just to have first glance? Fuck that, I know it's business but if I started treating this more like a grueling battle than a game I would just go be an accountant.
On a good note I barely spent anything (just $60) in the last 7-10 days and am making fucking BANK. Doesn't happen all the time but I got really lucky and it's definitely the boost I've needed since I started with only $20 in Feb thanks to some nasty bills.
Have you tried any storage auctions?
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Anonymous #11
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I've put tons of thought into it and I'm actually started taking actions to put it in place. I tried selling drugs, got caught. Tried working within the system, hated it. So now it's on to sustainable living.
What does society tell you to do the most of? Consume. Not just things you need but we're a consumer society and it's why we "need" the system, so we can consume more. I grow and raise my own food and am in the process of building my own house. The house is actually quite easy if you have any experience with permaculture building. If you don't, it's still easy to learn and there's actually mad internships and shit out there for people who want to learn to build/live sustainably. 4 months and $5k to build this little sweetie: http://www.simondale.net/house/
Now me, personally, I need electricity. So I'm using some of the money I made working in the system (~$80k) to buy a 20kw solar display (which is A LOT of power...I use for many tings  ). Water collects in a cistern, you use a grey water setup and have a septic tank. There you go. The only money you'll be paying is property tax on the land and you can be free of the system as long as you continue to be able to grow/raise your own food. If you're in a friendly state you can also grow your own weed and you can definitely brew your own beer just about anywhere  You don't pay anyone anything, you don't really need money anymore. The system will no longer own you. You don't have to worry about the coming oil/energy crisis. The only thing you need to worry about is making sure you are making enough food for yourself.
What can I say? I don't want to work anymore.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #11] 1
#15885860 - 03/01/12 03:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #11 said:
What can I say? I don't want to work anymore.
Have you ever done what you're describing before?
It sounds to me like "living off the land", farming, hunting etc. are hard as shit. Ask the settlers from the 1800's.
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Anonymous #12
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The same thing happened to me. To the T. I was also looking into the perma-culture and earth ship movement. I have a Few friends also looking into sustainable living. Is there a way to obtain land off the grid?
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #5] 1
#15885904 - 03/01/12 03:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #5 said:
Quote:
Anonymous #11 said:
What can I say? I don't want to work anymore.
Have you ever done what you're describing before?
It sounds to me like "living off the land", farming, hunting etc. are hard as shit. Ask the settlers from the 1800's.
Hard work is rewarding...
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Anonymous #9
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Storage auctions:
No. They don't really appeal to me and that show Storage Wars is too simplified. But I WILL do it one day because I like to try everything.
I did buy "a lot of shit" in bulk one time because the auctioneer was running out of time and I must have made ~$700-1,000. Seriously! I was really fucking happy. Granted one item ended up being worth $400 that I didn't know about and there a few goodies stashed here and there. That's how storage things work I guess but I have no ability to try & sell all the generic furniture and so on they come across. I'd rather dive into that when I have enough connections to immediately sell stuff I don't want b/c just donating 70% of the storage unit to goodwill every time isn't going to keep you in business
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Anonymous #9
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #9]
#15885920 - 03/01/12 03:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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btw I've done off the grid before and it has enough suckitudes to make on the grid living comparable enough.
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Anonymous #13
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Re: Tricks to beating the system??? [Re: Anonymous #8] 1
#15885971 - 03/01/12 03:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Teacher. Stable, middle class lifestyle. Sow seeds of revolution by subtly teaching about defying authority, undermining values, and the recreational side of drugs.
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Anonymous #11
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Quote:
Anonymous #5 said:
Have you ever done what you're describing before?
It sounds to me like "living off the land", farming, hunting etc. are hard as shit. Ask the settlers from the 1800's.
I do all the food stuff already, it's just a matter of building my house. I don't go to the supermarket anymore. I have an aquaponics setup that cranks out more than enough fish and whatever plants I decide to grow. I also have chickens now, not for the meat but for the eggs. It's not too hard actually, maybe an hour total of checking levels everyday and feeding chickens or moving the chicken tractor around the yard. Initial work might be a weekend to set it up. And a lot of learning. I'm still paying for utilities though  Hopefully that'll be solved in the next 5 years when I'm all good and moved in.
But yeah...kinda farming, no hunting for me. Maybe if I ever get good at a bow and arrow but the idea is to minimize money going out so I definitely won't be buying a gun/ammo. I'm doing pretty good with my current supply though...I don't need variation in meat because I follow a mainly pescetarian diet (except the eggs, I love eggs).
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Anonymous #12 said:
The same thing happened to me. To the T. I was also looking into the perma-culture and earth ship movement. I have a Few friends also looking into sustainable living. Is there a way to obtain land off the grid?
Not sure. I'm looking though. Property tax can be a bitch. I don't wanna be isolating myself either. Somewhere suburbish of a small chill kinda city. I might double my setup so I can just slang fish and produce at the farmers market to pay for my property tax, going out in the city. I don't know...that's the one thing I'm currently stuck on. Maybe one of my buddies with lots of land will lend me an acre? But then what if he moves? We'll see...
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Anonymous #13 said:
Teacher. Stable, middle class lifestyle. Sow seeds of revolution by subtly teaching about defying authority, undermining values, and the recreational side of drugs.
This was actually what I was going to do. High school. Not so much the drug shit but I like the idea of good benefits and tons of vacation time. I've had teaching gigs before. Aside from grading papers, it's also a pretty easy job as long as you get along with the students and don't let it stress you too much. And I might be able to coach a team. I'm gonna give my sustainable living a whirl but if it falls through I might go this route. Or if I need something to occupy my time. Maybe both? Boredom is a problem that has crossed my mind about this endeavor.
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