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LogicaL Chaos
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A Possible Gift to You: If they grow, I'll privately keep it to myself : (
#15810666 - 02/14/12 08:24 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I have been realizing lately that I am pretty selfish about some things and I wanna change that.
Lately, I have been making LC's from 2 wild psilocybes I found last fall, Ps. cyans and Ps. stuntzii.
I was planning on spreading the LC around my area, located in Western Oregon, so I have a whole bunch of mushrooms *hopefuly* this upcoming fall, but Im really not 100% sure.
I've already spread my first batch of Ps. cyans LC, and plan to do a lot more with also Ps. stuntzii in the same area too.
So, I was thinking, and the thought of growing my own wild shrooms outdoors for myself is very selfish, which is why I am making this post. I like to think of it as taking the "free spore print giveaway" combined with a scavenger hunt...
As the title says, if my wild patches actually fruit this upcoming Fall, I will tell you Shroomer's (who currently can't find any), where they are. But I will first have to make sure they fruit, I don't wanna give false hope.
If they do grow, there are some basic rules that you must follow so Shroomer's can enjoy the patches.
Rules for the To-Be patches:
1) Tread lightly! Respect the patch by not walking on the area where the fruits are growing.
2) Don't take pinning mushrooms! If the shrooms are tiny/baby-sized, then don't pick them! They need to mature first. Let them grow in peace.
3) Don't take ALL mature mushrooms you find. Leave some matures behind for others to enjoy. Share with other Shroomers.
4) Don't be obvious in your picking Remember, picking psilocybe mushrooms is illegal, keep it safe by being discrete!
Optional, but would be great....
5) Make Liquid Cultures (LC) from spores and spread them in your area
If you do pick the outdoor wild ones, try to print them and start your own wild outdoor patches in your area, for you and others to enjoy, and pass on the tradition. Here's a great beginner guide to making an easy Honey LC, written by a pro cultivator. Its the one I use, and its very easy, needs little supplies and is very effective.
If all goes well, I am looking forward to telling you guys where they are.
The Stuntzii's

The Cyans

I will do my best ~ LC
Edited by LogicaL Chaos (02/15/12 10:49 PM)
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15810690 - 02/14/12 08:29 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'm in Texas but thumbs up cool stuff
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: ZBrown] 1
#15810709 - 02/14/12 08:33 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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So is it that easy? Make LC Squirt LC Wait Til fall Pick?
If so I wouldn't mind spreading the species in my area for the hunters who go out and can't find squat.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: PeterPanda209]
#15810848 - 02/14/12 08:56 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Pretty much that easy, but you should be picky about where you spread the LC of any particular species. The LC needs the right environment and substrate to grow on to make it work. Also, you could make your own homemade substrate, but it takes some extra work.
I know this area works because thats where I picked the originals where I got the cyans spores. the stuntziis are a little different story, but they *could* grow too (crossing fingers).
And cleaner LC's do much better (from what I hear), then mixed LC's (multispore, its what I am using, its just easier.) Also, apparently spreading LC over the same spot over and over for a month say helps too. At least from what I read here.
But, it might take 2 years, at least what others are saying. But I have heard it done in 1 year. A lot of factors involved.
Im pretty optimistic at this point, I think I can do it.
Im hopeful thou ~ LC
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15811629 - 02/14/12 11:57 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Sharing the specific location of psilocybin mushrooms publicly on this forum is in violation of the rules.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: CureCat]
#15811883 - 02/15/12 01:28 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Oops, I didn't know.
Alright, I wont do it publicly.
Can I PM it to people?
~ LC
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15811903 - 02/15/12 01:37 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Can I PM it to people?
No, that would be conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15812499 - 02/15/12 07:27 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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you can post your observations on mushroomobserver I have pointed right to my finds, so if someone was so inclined, they could get really close (within 100 ft.)
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15813992 - 02/15/12 02:08 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: Can I PM it to people?
No, that would be conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance.
If the US ever decided to end the "war" on drugs would the shroomery change it's policy's about specific locations?
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#15814063 - 02/15/12 02:34 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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If the US ever decided to end the "war" on drugs would the shroomery change it's policy's about specific locations?
I don't think so. Telling people where to find mushrooms sends the kind of people that you don't want in your patch there. People should do their own research and hunting, not leech off the locations of others.
Do you want a whole bunch of leeches from the occupy movement who can't find mushrooms on their own camping out on your favorite patch?
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 2
#15814392 - 02/15/12 03:49 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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If the US ever decided to end the "war" on drugs would the shroomery change it's policy's about specific locations?
I don't think so. Telling people where to find mushrooms sends the kind of people that you don't want in your patch there. People should do their own research and hunting, not leech off the locations of others.
Do you want a whole bunch of leeches from the occupy movement who can't find mushrooms on their own camping out on your favorite patch?
No not really but I have no problem sharing with others (in fact I like to share, it makes me feel good). Also not all of the occupy people are leaches just the ones that are leaches (stereotyping people never help anything).
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#15814453 - 02/15/12 04:01 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: No not really but I have no problem sharing with others (in fact I like to share, it makes me feel good).
But then when you go back to photograph the mushrooms, they won't be there.
I can't count the number of people who have become angry at me for not giving them the exact location where psychoactive mushrooms grow. You should see some of the angry text messages I got last year, they are over the top.
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Also not all of the occupy people are leaches just the ones that are leaches (stereotyping people never help anything).
The occupy movement has a disproportionate number of leeches. Not all of them are, but it is a far greater percentage than the general population.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15815036 - 02/15/12 05:38 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I can't count the number of people who have become angry at me for not giving them the exact location where psychoactive mushrooms grow. You should see some of the angry text messages I got last year, they are over the top.
That's insane. People suck sometimes.
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Alan Rockefeller said:
People should do their own research and hunting, not leech off the locations of others.
100% agree.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15815599 - 02/15/12 07:20 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
I can't count the number of people who have become angry at me for not giving them the exact location where psychoactive mushrooms grow. You should see some of the angry text messages I got last year, they are over the top.
You should just tell them to buy a bag soil if they are too lazy to hunt or grow them.... easy way
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll can't tell you where they are : ( [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15816548 - 02/15/12 10:40 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: Can I PM it to people?
No, that would be conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance.
Ok Ok, Alan, you win. I wont post or PM the location. Conspiracies scare me anyway, especially when I'm the one making them. What if I'm a conspiracy by the government! 
But just playing hypothetical, what if I told someone a real general location of it, like a 50 acre area. Would that still be conspiracy? I mean, I just don't wanna give it away, I want them to know what to look for. Its not free-giveaway, it was supposed to be an opportunity to find success.
Still too specific? ~ LC
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll can't tell you where they are : ( [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#15816605 - 02/15/12 10:53 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Very noble idea Logical Chaos, and what you should do is just keep spreading your LC as many places as possible and then the random people out hunting for them might have a better chance of finding them. This way they worked for them and you don't violate any rules
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll can't tell you where they are : ( [Re: The Influence] 1
#15816669 - 02/15/12 11:14 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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E for Effort buddy.
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll can't tell you where they are : ( [Re: ZBrown]
#15816718 - 02/15/12 11:36 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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I'll post my opinion on this matter only because I am doing something similar.
Logical Chaos: I'm all for the spraying of liquid cultures in areas, as many people on this forum know that. But over the course the of gallons and gallons of LC I've sprayed, I would NEVER tell anyone but close friends where they are, and only in person at that. It's just not a good idea. I understand what you are trying to do, and believe me, I agree with ya. But don't tell anyone where the locations are.
Last thing you want are a bunch of high school kids ripping up the patches you worked all year to create. Try not to think about it like hoarding the mushrooms, because if you do a good job at spraying, there will be too many for any one person to pick. Personally I have sprayed countless patches in the last 3 months, with over 8 species, and I will never visit all of the spots in one year. It's more to put spore into the air. If you want to spread the species around for other people to enjoy, don't worry about posting locations, worry about how much spore you can put into the air every season by making patches with LC or spawn
On the note of spraying LC, I hope you are already spraying, or you will be waiting another year to get good results. The window is closing fast to get species into the ground. I wish you the best of luck in your adventures.

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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll tell you where they are. [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#15817038 - 02/16/12 01:24 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: If the US ever decided to end the "war" on drugs would the shroomery change it's policy's about specific locations?
I would say "maybe", but I don't think it really demands much consideration at this time. If psilocybin becomes legal and you guys want to share, then just pick them and hand them out as you please. A lot less hassle and less opportunity for people to betray your generosity by "raping your patch"...
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Re: A Possible Gift to You: If my patches grow, I'll can't tell you where they are : ( [Re: The Influence]
#15817384 - 02/16/12 05:31 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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The Influence said: Very noble idea Logical Chaos, and what you should do is just keep spreading your LC as many places as possible and then the random people out hunting for them might have a better chance of finding them. This way they worked for them and you don't violate any rules 
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