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 Are geniuses born smart? 
#15810574 - 02/14/12 08:10 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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People like Einstein, Telsa, Freud,and Sagan. And what about polymaths like Isaac Newton and da Vinci? and creative geniuses like Bach, Mozart and even Steve Jobs(LSD?) and Steven Spielberg? Are these people born gifted? Maybe genetics? Perhaps disorders such as Aspergers played a part for some?
Or were these people just average joes who worked their asses off to achieve a higher level of intelligence/creativity?
Or maybe a combination of both?
OR maybe some people are born with an incredible ability to concentrate and absorb information like sponges?
What sets these people apart and how did they get there?
I also realize that there hasn't been much research into what causes genius but what do you people think?
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810619 - 02/14/12 08:16 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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No, I dont think they were average joes. They had both I reckon, above average nature and nurture. There have been others with the biological hardware that toiled in fields, and there have been normal or below average intelligence make important contributions with above average nurture.
But the super geniuses had both.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: DieCommie] 2
#15810682 - 02/14/12 08:27 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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environment plays a lot. once a person is introduced to something in which they have potential, they can pursue. if that introduction is never made then they play whatever they are 2nd best or 3rd best and so on... biological "wiring" and how they are introduced to "things".
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: DieCommie]
#15810728 - 02/14/12 08:36 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I can see how nurture/environment definitely plays a part. But it's the nature ("biological wiring") part that really intrigues me, but it also is disappointing to think about because I know that my nature is not even close to that of a genius. I mean I can study, read, and try to comprehend as much as I can until the day I die, but I will never be anywhere close to Carl Sagan. But thats just one perspective
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810740 - 02/14/12 08:38 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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it's an accident. timing. miracle.... however you wanna look at it. i mostly say accident.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810741 - 02/14/12 08:38 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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No, but I think they probably had way above average persistence.
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i could be wrong... but thats just how i view it.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: nooneman]
#15810776 - 02/14/12 08:44 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Are they born with the "above average persistence"?
If not how can I brush up my persistence/concentration?
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810782 - 02/14/12 08:45 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
bananaman said:
Are they born with the "above average persistence"?
I think so.
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If not how can I brush up my persistence/concentration?
If only I knew! I'd be the most persistent person ever.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810796 - 02/14/12 08:47 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
bananaman said:
If not how can I brush up my persistence/concentration?
Practice. Get your nose in a book for a few hours everyday. Many get professional training via college and the like.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: DieCommie]
#15810809 - 02/14/12 08:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I was a drooling idiot until just a few short years ago. Something to do with a meteor.
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Quote:
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I was a drooling idiot until just a few short years ago. Something to do with a meteor.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: nooneman]
#15810814 - 02/14/12 08:50 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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they say practice makes perfect.... you can take that. OR i have thought NON practice makes perfect. not saying just give up, just dont over do it and have a fit.
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I think you got it. Factors that have to do with their nature ( creativity/ persistence) combined with environmental factors like how they are brought up give you an individual with potential. But it all has to come together perfectly hence the "accident."
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810830 - 02/14/12 08:53 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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almost, if not, everything is an accident...
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: nooneman]
#15810843 - 02/14/12 08:55 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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nooneman said:
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I was a drooling idiot until just a few short years ago. Something to do with a meteor.
I don't get it 
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Actually, everything is a culmination of various possibilities correlated with probabilities.
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: 4896744]
#15810857 - 02/14/12 08:58 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
iThink said:
Actually, everything is a culmination of various possibilities correlated with probabilities.
see... this man has "accidently" become a genius...
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Re: Are geniuses born smart? [Re: bananaman]
#15810860 - 02/14/12 08:59 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
bananaman said:
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nooneman said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I was a drooling idiot until just a few short years ago. Something to do with a meteor.
I don't get it
Don't feel bad. Only other geniusessesses get it.
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