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soldatheero said:
Can you elaborate what exactly are you defining as "information"? there is a causal link and you can induce a change in one particle to another without traveling through space-time but by the "field" how does that not qualify as an exchange of "information". Wouldn't this make sense for psi? two brains interlinked and the space between them is irrelevant because the information is exchanged via the field but not space time?

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But all we have is a YouTube video on par with another lolcat that looks like Hitler.

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But Kitler's are for realz!

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here's that lack of education again. You keep misunderstanding entanglement, then use that erroneous understanding to make an erroneous point. The entanglement experiments people often naively reference as evidence of superluminal communication are misunderstandings by laypeople who don't understand the physics involved.

What entanglement permits is for two distant people to each know what the other must be seeing. No information can be transmitted this way, because imparting information onto one of the the two entangled entities immediately destroys the entanglement.

Let me say it again because you just don't seem to get it. NO INFORMATION CAN BE TRANSMITTED USING ENTANGLEMENT. NONE AT ALL. If you impart information on one side, it instantly and necessarily destroys the entanglement. No information can be transmitted using entanglement.

It amazes me that this supposedly well-educated neuroscientist has such a deep ignorance of some very well established physics that he actually claims entanglement as evidence of telepathy. I mean, he could read Popular Mechanics magazine and gain a deeper understanding of physics than what he apparently currently has. And you wonder why we lend him so little weight.

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"Currently accepted theory, quantum entanglement cannot be used to transmit messages instantaneously. The reason is that although entanglement apparently allows two particles to communicate with each other instantly over distance, the message that is sent is always completely random and cannot be influenced by the holders of either particle.

Consider the classic thought experiment where two entangled particles are separated, with one sent to Alice and the other sent to Bob, who are separated by a great distance. Suppose Alice measures her particle, causing it to collapse. As it collapses, the universe generates a perfectly random result from among the range of possibilities -- so perfect it is not influenced by anything anywhere in the universe. This random result is communicated instantly to Bob's particle, which then knows how to respond when Bob measures it, such that the result of Bob's measurement is consistent with Alice's in a way that couldn't have been possible without true entanglement.

This result in itself is certainly very surprising and many physicists including Einstein found it hard to accept. However, even if we accept this violation of locality, which most physicists now do, it still does not enable messages to be sent faster than light.

Although information is transmitted instantly, that information was not chosen by Alice in any way. It was chosen randomly by the universe. That's why Alice cannot possibly use this setup to transmit information to Bob instantly. She cannot in any way influence which random value gets sent. So Bob can never tell from the result of his measurement whether Alice has even done anything -- until Alice tells him over a classical communications channel what the result of her measurement was.

Entanglement is not completely useless for communication, though. One unique application of entanglement is quantum teleportation. This means it is possible to send the exact quantum state of a particle across arbitrary distances to another particle.

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YOUR POINT IS MUTE

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lol, ahh man.

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I edited it a whole minute after I posted but congrats you found something petty you can work with.

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i dont know too much about physics, but it seems like calling this phenomenon names for something else isn't going to work. lets say that the two brains really are interpreting the information at the same time. would they not also be getting that information in the same space then? if i understand this right, the cicular magnetic field is that space/time

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It just made me laugh.  Your point is mute!

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since all the particles are the same wave, they all have an interaction simultaneously

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proving that it didnt happen is still worth something

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i wont apologize for trying to think creatively

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